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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – an attempt to either be witty or informative: Over the hills and far away in soc.men, Joseph A Nagy Jr came to play… The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead. How about we just kill every woman in the world and rely on cloning for reproduction? I mean, look at the benefits of such a course of action! Especially if it was John Dobbs that we cloned. What a wonderful world that would be. Billions of John Dobbs roaming wild and free, with their blow up dolls for company. Who the fuck is John Dobbs? Either way, with MEN controlling the technology, we can control who reproduces and who doesn’t. Hell, they don’t even have to be perfect clones. We could use genetic manipulation to change them in any manner we wish. Yeah, but first you gotta get those men on our side, Joseph Nagy. Intellectualoids are very often feminists and they might not display gender loyalty. You’re both as mad as hatters.
Shut up, bitch.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – an attempt to either be witty or informative: Over the hills and far away in soc.men, Joseph A Nagy Jr came to play… The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead. How about we just kill every woman in the world and rely on cloning for reproduction? I mean, look at the benefits of such a course of action! Especially if it was John Dobbs that we cloned. What a wonderful world that would be. Billions of John Dobbs roaming wild and free, with their blow up dolls for company. Who the fuck is John Dobbs? Either way, with MEN controlling the technology, we can control who reproduces and who doesn’t. Hell, they don’t even have to be perfect clones. We could use genetic manipulation to change them in any manner we wish. Yeah, but first you gotta get those men on our side, Joseph Nagy. Intellectualoids are very often feminists and they might not display gender loyalty.
You’re both as mad as hatters. ______ __ __ _______ __ | —| || || | | -__| | || | | | _ || -__| |_____| "But are you really going to say that somewhere, say 10,000 years from now, that no one will have ever invented a perpetual motion machine?" - Andrew Langer, demonstrating his erroneous and fallacious reasoning http://makeashorterlink.com/?L25921D03
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – an attempt to either be witty or informative: Over the hills and far away in soc.men, Joseph A Nagy Jr came to play… The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead. How about we just kill every woman in the world and rely on cloning for reproduction? I mean, look at the benefits of such a course of action! Especially if it was John Dobbs that we cloned. What a wonderful world that would be. Billions of John Dobbs roaming wild and free, with their blow up dolls for company. Who the fuck is John Dobbs? Either way, with MEN controlling the technology, we can control who reproduces and who doesn’t. Hell, they don’t even have to be perfect clones. We could use genetic manipulation to change them in any manner we wish.
Nagy, you are just as crazy as Dobbs. ______ __ __ _______ __ | —| || || | | -__| | || | | | _ || -__| |_____| "But are you really going to say that somewhere, say 10,000 years from now, that no one will have ever invented a perpetual motion machine?" - Andrew Langer, demonstrating his erroneous and fallacious reasoning http://makeashorterlink.com/?L25921D03
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Over the hills and far away in soc.men, Joseph A Nagy Jr came to play… The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead. How about we just kill every woman in the world and rely on cloning for reproduction? I mean, look at the benefits of such a course of action! Especially if it was John Dobbs that we cloned. What a wonderful world that would be. Billions of John Dobbs roaming wild and free, with their blow up dolls for company.
Reminds me of that dude in that Twilight Zone, episode, Mr. Henry Bemis. Episode Summary Witness Mr. Henry Bemis, a charter member in the fraternity of dreamers. A bookish little man whose passion is the printed page but who is conspired against by a bank president and a wife and a world full of tongue-cluckers and the unrelenting hands of a clock. But in just a moment Mr. Bemis will enter a world without bank presidents or wives or clocks or anything else. He’ll have a world all to himself without anyone. Henry Bemis, a bank teller, is trying to talk to one of his customers about David Copperfield while dispensing change at the same time. He is also reading the book underneath the counter while trying to do his job. Bemis is not successful juggling all these tasks as he short-changes the lady at his counter a dollar. She leaves in a huff while Bemis is still talking about David Copperfield. Since there are no customers in his line, Bemis continues to read his book until a shadow falls over the pages. That shadow is his boss, Mr. Carsville, who wants to speak with Bemis in his office immediately. Mr. Carsville does not consider Bemis to be a very efficient employee. He instead brands Bemis a reader and forbids Bemis from reading anything on company time. Bemis tries to explain that he has to read at work because his wife won’t let him read at home. That explanation falls on deaf ears as Mr. Carsville considers Henry’s wife to be a bright woman. While on his way out of the office, Bemis stops to glance at a magazine. At home that evening, Bemis is content reading the newspaper but his wife, Helen, walks into the room and promptly grabs the newspaper out of his hands. She doesn’t want Bemis to sacrifice the art of conversation. She also wants Bemis to change his shirt because they’re going over to the Phillips’ house to play cards. When she leaves the room, Bemis doesn’t change his shirt but he does retrieve a book of poetry from underneath the cushion of his chair and tucks it into his jacket. Somehow, his wife seems to know about the book as she immediately pulls it out of his jacket. Surprisingly, she wants Bemis to read her some of the poems in the book. Bemis is ecstatic at the prospect until he starts leafing through the book and finds that every page has lines scribbled all over the poems. Helen chides him for reading nonsensical doggerel and then, to add insult to injury, she rips out the pages and throws them on the ground. Despite the fact that the book was already ruined, Bemis drops to his knees to collect the pages. Back at work, Bemis goes on his lunch break and slowly walks downstairs to the bank vault. Once inside he shuts the door and starts to read his book. He also glances at the front page of the newspaper. The headline ominously reads "H-Bomb Capable of Total Destruction." Moments later, the book flips open by itself and the glass on his pocketwatch shatters. Then a terribly loud boom is heard and the entire vault shakes violently. The ensuing commotion causes Bemis to momentarily pass out. When he revives, he steps outside the bank vault only to find that the bank has been destroyed. Everything is lying in ruins. Bemis deliberately makes his way through the remains and is startled when a tape recorder starts playing. The voice on the tape is of Mr. Carsville, but the recorder shorts out after about a minute. When Bemis makes his way to the outside of the bank he is shocked to discover the landscape. Everything has been destroyed. Bemis is able to find his mailbox but no evidence of his house. It begins to dawn on Henry Bemis that he is the only one still alive, and the reason for that is because he was down in the vault. Then he questions whether or not that was a good thing. Although he is not going to starve to death, Bemis knows that the worst part of this situation is going to be the fact that he is completely alone. He finds a car that runs for a few seconds before the engine gives out. Bemis calls out for anyone but nobody responds. He tries to remain strong but the loneliness is getting to him. In the remains of a sporting goods store Bemis discovers a loaded revolver. Hoping to be forgiven, Bemis puts the weapon to his head but discovers something in the nick of time. That something is the nearby public library. There are hundreds of thousands of books strewn all over the front steps and beyond. Bemis reminds off some of the titles he finds with great excitement. With extreme anticipation, Bemis stacks several piles of books on the steps of the library. He notes that there is finally time for him to read. Just then, he notices a book lying on a step a few feet in front of him. He leans down to pick up the book and his glasses fall off. The lenses crack into little pieces, trapping Henry Bemis in his own blurry world… The best laid plans of mice and men and Henry Bemis, the small man in the glasses who wanted nothing but time. Henry Bemis, now just a part of a smashed landscape, just a piece of the rubble, just a fragment of what man has deeded to himself. Mr. Henry Bemis in the Twilight Zone. http://www.thetzsite.com/pages/episodes/008.html ______ __ __ _______ __ | —| || || | | -__| | || | | | _ || -__| |_____| "But are you really going to say that somewhere, say 10,000 years from now, that no one will have ever invented a perpetual motion machine?" - Andrew Langer, demonstrating his erroneous and fallacious reasoning http://makeashorterlink.com/?L25921D03
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The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead. How about we just kill every woman in the world and rely on cloning for reproduction? I mean, look at the benefits of such a course of action!
The irony of course, is that soc.men, for the most part, espouses this idea, however tongue-in-cheek. ______ __ __ _______ __ | —| || || | | -__| | || | | | _ || -__| |_____| "But are you really going to say that somewhere, say 10,000 years from now, that no one will have ever invented a perpetual motion machine?" - Andrew Langer, demonstrating his erroneous and fallacious reasoning http://makeashorterlink.com/?L25921D03
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The whole thing about keeping women home, killing anyone who commits adultery. If they would have followed on with those ideas and allowed technology and trade and not attack other countries I can see how that great ideology spreading ahead.
Ever heard of Saudi Arabia, moron? ______ __ __ _______ __ | —| || || | | -__| | || | | | _ || -__| |_____| "But are you really going to say that somewhere, say 10,000 years from now, that no one will have ever invented a perpetual motion machine?" - Andrew Langer, demonstrating his erroneous and fallacious reasoning http://makeashorterlink.com/?L25921D03
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Don’t even bother criticizing efkent. It truly is a useless endeavour. By the way he spews poison at Israel, I would have sworn he is an Arab. Besides, being a non-anglo is the only excuse he could have for spelling the way he does, or so I thought. As it happens, he just happens to be such an idiot that he is capable of believing a good lot of what he writes if he repeats it enough. You know…takes an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes, accidentally hypnotizes himself…that sort of thing. You can see that it’s really not worth your while to criticize efkent, can’t you? So be nice Jeff, ’cause being truthful with this guy doesn’t help him, and …but wait. He’s such a jerk I can’t help it either. Ok then. Go ahead and let him have it just like I do. Maybe if we work hard enough on it, we can push him right out of this newsgroup and into an imaginary Palestine, so he can be among the people he most gives a damn about. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In all seriousness, and please be honest. Are you an adult or am I dealing with a petulant child? I would love to know so that I can appropriately address your comments. For instance, the one directly below requires a shake of the head and for someone to send you a clean diaper. Ah mommy took little Jeff’s pacifier away from him and now he considers himself a abused child. A abused gossoon???? When the hell has a lusus naturae geek become a gossoon? Wanted or not wanted. zionism=$=racism. We are a sleaze culture because we allow people like you to stay here. You’ve been lying and have just been caught. The Arabs don’t want you because your tainted by our culture. We don’t want you because you are an inbred. Hell, I even understand your trailer park manager don’t want you because you refuse to hook up to the sewer line. And that proves what? That reactionaries are racist and belong to the American sleaze culture. zionism=$=racism. Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio. "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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In all seriousness, and please be honest. Are you an adult or am I dealing with a petulant child? I would love to know so that I can appropriately address your comments. For instance, the one directly below requires a shake of the head and for someone to send you a clean diaper.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ah mommy took little Jeff’s pacifier away from him and now he considers himself a abused child. A abused gossoon???? When the hell has a lusus naturae geek become a gossoon? Wanted or not wanted. zionism=$=racism. We are a sleaze culture because we allow people like you to stay here. You’ve been lying and have just been caught. The Arabs don’t want you because your tainted by our culture. We don’t want you because you are an inbred. Hell, I even understand your trailer park manager don’t want you because you refuse to hook up to the sewer line. And that proves what? That reactionaries are racist and belong to the American sleaze culture. zionism=$=racism. Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio. "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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Ah mommy took little Jeff’s pacifier away from him and now he considers himself a abused child. A abused gossoon???? When the hell has a lusus naturae geek become a gossoon? Wanted or not wanted. zionism=$=racism.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are a sleaze culture because we allow people like you to stay here. You’ve been lying and have just been caught. The Arabs don’t want you because your tainted by our culture. We don’t want you because you are an inbred. Hell, I even understand your trailer park manager don’t want you because you refuse to hook up to the sewer line. And that proves what? That reactionaries are racist and belong to the American sleaze culture. zionism=$=racism. Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio. "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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We are a sleaze culture because we allow people like you to stay here. You’ve been lying and have just been caught. The Arabs don’t want you because your tainted by our culture. We don’t want you because you are an inbred. Hell, I even understand your trailer park manager don’t want you because you refuse to hook up to the sewer line.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And that proves what? That reactionaries are racist and belong to the American sleaze culture. zionism=$=racism. Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio. "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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And that proves what? That reactionaries are racist and belong to the American sleaze culture. zionism=$=racism.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio. "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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"We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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Take a hike and walk a mile to mount a camel! First you’ll have to leave your fetid digs in ohio.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "We ride, ride, two men on two dromedaries, the sun flames over our heads, everything is shimer and glimer, and swimming light. Reddish and orange-colorerd dunes, dunes behind dunes, beyound dunes, loneliness and burning silence, and two men on two dromedaries in that swinging gait which makes you sleepy, so that you forget the day, the sun, the hot wind’ and the long way." Berlin to Makkah~~ zionism=$=racism.
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I just need to know.. How much… it is possible.. to hurt.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. we built this house of cards.. when it hurts dont take it hard.. we can tear it down.. How much does it takes to take down a house of cards? What we’ve built our lives on? And the drums are beating everywhere by now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. Lay it down now.. Lay down the life…. "The longest trip you’ll take is inside.." – Yes ‘94
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Hi Elg again, this is good too, but you ask a question. It’s possible to hurt so much that you think you’re going to die, but we are all so much stronger than we think we are and can take so much more than we want to. No one wants to feel like you do, or i do , or Brett, or Kenna or Shadz or so many other here. But we do and it sucks so bad and it feels like it will never end. But it will, with help from people that care we can at least make it feel a little better. This is a good place and we will all do our best to help you get through your pain. Please write us and tell us what’s going on. We all really do care about you and the pain you are going through. tom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just need to know.. How much… it is possible.. to hurt.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. we built this house of cards.. when it hurts dont take it hard.. we can tear it down.. How much does it takes to take down a house of cards? What we’ve built our lives on? And the drums are beating everywhere by now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. Lay it down now.. Lay down the life…. "The longest trip you’ll take is inside.." – Yes ‘94
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Baccus – There’s no age limit on pain. i’m over 40 and have been in pain for over 30 years now, both physical and mental pain, every day. Every day people like us find a reason to go on and to fight our way through another day. What’s going on in your life Baccus, what’s causing your pain? Are you getting any help? Do you have family and friends that care for you? Are you taking meds of any kind ? Tell us what’s going on, please. tom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Hi Elg again, this is good too, but you ask a question. It’s possible to hurt so much that you think you’re going to die, but we are all so much stronger than we think we are and can take so much more than we want to. No one wants to feel like you do, or i do , or Brett, or Kenna or Shadz or so many other here. But we do and it sucks so bad and it feels like it will never end. But it will, with help from people that care we can at least make it feel a little better. This is a good place and we will all do our best to help you get through your pain. Please write us and tell us what’s going on. We all really do care about you and the pain you are going through. tom Do you. Do you? What about you? You. You’re here, you’re alive. Do you hurt? If you’re here, you hurt. I hurt, alot. I’ve done it for many years. Since about 9 years old. I’m older now. I’m above 19. I don’t belong here anymore, because this is a teen newsgroup. But I hurt.. So much.. Where should I go? Where should I… hide? So that nobody can see me? So that.. nobody can care for me? There is no peace here in my mind. There’s nowhere to see, we’re all born blind. But there is a world, apart from what we know.. there is a time, where the eyes will never show. We can be as one, and be farther than the distance to the sun. And that’s really far. The distance to the sun. It’s where you all are. And there I am. Far away. With my pain.. and my.. loneliness. Just another lost case. – Baccus I just need to know.. How much… it is possible.. to hurt.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. we built this house of cards.. when it hurts dont take it hard.. we can tear it down.. How much does it takes to take down a house of cards? What we’ve built our lives on? And the drums are beating everywhere by now.. lay it down now.. lay it down now.. Lay it down now.. Lay down the life…. "The longest trip you’ll take is inside.." – Yes ‘94 "The longest trip you’ll take is inside.." – Yes ‘94
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I have no life-threatening illnesses. I don’t smoke or drink. I have access to adequate nutrition and health care. I’m as healthy as most people who are ten years younger than me. I’m probably genetically programmed to live longer than the average American. One would think this is all very good. Well, I guess living long is good, but do I really want to live that long? I don’t know. A lonely, empty life that never ends doesn’t seem very appealing to me.
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Sounds like you’re going to be around a long time, so there is plenty of time to find some solutions to this loneliness and emptiness. I hope you succeed.
Thank you.
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Certainly, if one lives in pain everyday, it is meaningless for him to live forever. If you live in pain, why expect a longer life? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have no life-threatening illnesses. I don’t smoke or drink. I have access to adequate nutrition and health care. I’m as healthy as most people who are ten years younger than me. I’m probably genetically programmed to live longer than the average American. One would think this is all very good. Well, I guess living long is good, but do I really want to live that long? I don’t know. A lonely, empty life that never ends doesn’t seem very appealing to me.
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I have no life-threatening illnesses. I don’t smoke or drink. I have access to adequate nutrition and health care. I’m as healthy as most people who are ten years younger than me. I’m probably genetically programmed to live longer than the average American. One would think this is all very good. Well, I guess living long is good, but do I really want to live that long? I don’t know. A lonely, empty life that never ends doesn’t seem very appealing to me.
Sounds like you’re going to be around a long time, so there is plenty of time to find some solutions to this loneliness and emptiness. I hope you succeed. Stan Remove "JUNK" for my valid address.
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d…@mail.fsj.net (%) wrote in message <news:3c17c62e.21564002@news.fsj.net>… > when there are 6 billion people on the planet
It’s very easy to be lonely when not one of those 6 billion peoples wants to be your friend or companion or acquaintance or anything else of any value to relieving your severe social deprivation. By the way, why doesn’t everybody suffering social deprivation join this club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/socialdeprivationndepression It’s for anyone afflicted with shyness or any other emotional or physical condition that makes it difficult to meet people, who consequently is alone too much of the time and thereby suffers loneliness to the point of seeming depressed (lethargy, suicide attempts/gestures, etc.), so I’ll cross-post this to other newsgroups in addition to the one where this thread started, beware if you followup this now.
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On 16 Dec 2001 17:49:57 -0800, nohope4l…@Yahoo.Com wrote: >d…@mail.fsj.net (%) wrote in message <news:3c17c62e.21564002@news.fsj.net>… >> when there are 6 billion people on the planet >It’s very easy to be lonely when not one of those 6 billion peoples >wants to be your friend or companion or acquaintance or anything else >of any value to relieving your severe social deprivation. >By the way, why doesn’t everybody suffering social deprivation join this club: >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/socialdeprivationndepression >It’s for anyone afflicted with shyness or any other emotional or physical >condition that makes it difficult to meet people, who consequently is >alone too much of the time and thereby suffers loneliness to the point >of seeming depressed (lethargy, suicide attempts/gestures, etc.), >so I’ll cross-post this to other newsgroups in addition to the one >where this thread started, beware if you followup this now.
that’s not loneliness , that’s being alone , they’re not quite the same thing .
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% <perc…@uniserve.com> wrote in message
news:3c211d87.24668442@news.cis.dfn.de… > On 16 Dec 2001 17:49:57 -0800, nohope4l…@Yahoo.Com wrote: > >d…@mail.fsj.net (%) wrote in message
<news:3c17c62e.21564002@news.fsj.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> when there are 6 billion people on the planet > >It’s very easy to be lonely when not one of those 6 billion peoples > >wants to be your friend or companion or acquaintance or anything else > >of any value to relieving your severe social deprivation. > >By the way, why doesn’t everybody suffering social deprivation join this club: > >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/socialdeprivationndepression > >It’s for anyone afflicted with shyness or any other emotional or physical > >condition that makes it difficult to meet people, who consequently is > >alone too much of the time and thereby suffers loneliness to the point > >of seeming depressed (lethargy, suicide attempts/gestures, etc.), > >so I’ll cross-post this to other newsgroups in addition to the one > >where this thread started, beware if you followup this now. > that’s not loneliness , that’s being alone , > they’re not quite the same thing .
You dont know what you are talking about. Ed
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 19:05:45 -0000, "Standing on the Edge" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<notarealaddress@itsnotrealsodon’tsendmeanymail.com> wrote: >% <perc…@uniserve.com> wrote in message >news:3c211d87.24668442@news.cis.dfn.de… >> On 16 Dec 2001 17:49:57 -0800, nohope4l…@Yahoo.Com wrote: >> >d…@mail.fsj.net (%) wrote in message ><news:3c17c62e.21564002@news.fsj.net>… >> >> when there are 6 billion people on the planet >> >It’s very easy to be lonely when not one of those 6 billion peoples >> >wants to be your friend or companion or acquaintance or anything else >> >of any value to relieving your severe social deprivation. >> >By the way, why doesn’t everybody suffering social deprivation join this >club: >> >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/socialdeprivationndepression >> >It’s for anyone afflicted with shyness or any other emotional or physical >> >condition that makes it difficult to meet people, who consequently is >> >alone too much of the time and thereby suffers loneliness to the point >> >of seeming depressed (lethargy, suicide attempts/gestures, etc.), >> >so I’ll cross-post this to other newsgroups in addition to the one >> >where this thread started, beware if you followup this now. >> that’s not loneliness , that’s being alone , >> they’re not quite the same thing . >You dont know what you are talking about. >Ed
so what ?
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> > that’s not loneliness , that’s being alone , > > they’re not quite the same thing .
When someone says she is lonely and you say that she is not lonely, but alone; that is "not quite the same thing" as someone saying she is just alone, although in your mind she is just alone (not lonely) in both cases. The words "lonely" and "alone" come before the states of "loneliness" and "aloneness" because the person intends to be "lonely" or "alone" when they use those words to describe themselves. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You dont know what you are talking about. > Ed
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David Kern <south…@enter.net> wrote in message
news:tysV7.1235$Dl1.546086@monger.newsread.com… > > > that’s not loneliness , that’s being alone , > > > they’re not quite the same thing . > When someone says she is lonely and you say that she is not lonely, but > alone; that is "not quite the same thing" as someone saying she is just > alone, although in your mind she is just alone (not lonely) in both cases. > The words "lonely" and "alone" come before the states of "loneliness" and > "aloneness" because the person intends to be "lonely" or "alone" when they > use those words to describe themselves.
You have just confused the hell out of him, id stop now before his brain explodes Ed
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Hi everyone, I don’t know anyone in this newsgroup, but I too, am lonely. I’ve tried to do things to get over that loneliness….but not very successfully. So what I’ve done is created a live cam page. I know it’s not much, but it may help others. I have it on my kitties when they are in the living room. So you can tune in and see them. I also put up a loneliness message board, and a link to a loneliness chatroom on dalnet. It has a java applet on it that will allow you to log in from your web browser. In any case, maybe this will help others who are as lonely as I. http://www.titanicstreams.com/lcam/ as
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Bloody spammers.
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chief wrote: > That stinks Celebok, hahahehe. Be Well
*LOL!* –Capt. Celebok
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That stinks Celebok, hahahehe. Be Well Yhugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Celebok wrote: > Living > On > Nobody’s > Expectations, > Laughing > Inside, > Naked, > Except > Smelly > Socks > –Capt. Celebok
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Great, now I have one weird picture in my head. <LAUGH> Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Celebok wrote in message <37CCAD4B.6…@earthlink.net>… >Living >On >Nobody’s >Expectations, >Laughing >Inside, >Naked, >Except >Smelly >Socks >–Capt. Celebok
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Marshall heeft geschreven in bericht <7qicpi$p…@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>… : :Celebok <cele…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:37CCAD4B.6F9D@earthlink.net… :> Living :> On :> Nobody’s :> Expectations, :> Laughing :> Inside, :> Naked, :> Except :> Smelly :> Socks :> :> –Capt. Celebok :> :Heh, at least I usually wear shorts, at the keyboard 
: -Marshall : 
:( :( Today, one more dream was shattered <deep sigh> <gulp> I’m a big girl now, I can take it… <whimper> said with tongue in cheek <wink> Caroline
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I feel that way too Jane
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Hi Jane.. Welcome to ASL.. we are all common in the feeling of lonely.. but you are here now.. and I hope you stick around.. Please.. we can always use more friends to help us kinda support each other and be in the end.. less lonely Post again.. more of you please.. Pamela Janeroses <janero…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990904213700.05995.00004932@ng-fm1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I feel that way too > Jane
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Welcome Jane. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Janeroses wrote in message <19990904213700.05995.00004…@ng-fm1.aol.com>… >I feel that way too >Jane
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Living On Nobody’s Expectations, Laughing Inside, Naked, Except Smelly Socks –Capt. Celebok
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Celebok <cele…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37CCAD4B.6F9D@earthlink.net… > Living > On > Nobody’s > Expectations, > Laughing > Inside, > Naked, > Except > Smelly > Socks > –Capt. Celebok
Heh, at least I usually wear shorts, at the keyboard -Marshall
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Am I too late?I just now saw the loneliness word thingy. Here’s mine: L-looking O-out N-nightly E-emptily L-living I-in N-nothing E-except S-sadness S-suffering
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Love Overcomes. Nothing Ever Lasts Indefinitely, Not Even Sad Songs
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P&M Thank you Ken. I will redo it next week and send it your way. or it could be I have no idea what I am doing — but dont tell any of my friends… they think I know everything about this blessed box….. — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Ken Jentsch wrote in message
<01becf79$e84ceae0$da662…@KennethW.Jentsch>… :If you could send me the file you are having difficulty with, perhaps I :could find something. One thing that comes to mind, is that the background :may already be set to maximum. In that case, the only way you could :increase it, is by decreasing everything else. : :KenJ : : :Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article :<7f7cf$162d3….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… :> :> P&M :> Ken: :> :> Nice to see you to Ken. Yes, I have never been one not to want to get :> everything done, and in a perfect manner — typical A personality that :has :> been forced to change. Still hard though. :> I have actually done a rendition of Hotel California that I think :everyone :> will enjoy, but I am still have a problem in figuring out why I cant get :an :> increase in the background sound during mixing. :> Sigh :> I think that is where the name, slave drive came from….. :> — :> ************ :> Barbara :> Tirracamba :> "live and let live" :> ************ :> Ken Jentsch wrote in message
:> <01becea8$f6fc25a0$d0662…@KennethW.Jentsch>… :> :Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to :> :reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara :first. :> :She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with :> :email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some :> :relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. :> :I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I :have :> :to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to :> :read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > :> : :> :KenJ :> : :> : :> :Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article :> :<7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… :> :> :> :> Greetings everyone! :> :> :> :> I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. :> :Hounds :> :> of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a :really :> :> powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make :a :> :> difference. Strong and empowering. :> :> :> :> I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made :since :> :I :> :> left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only :say :> :> that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the :number :> 
f :> :> posts they have made. :> :> :> :> Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new :> :people :> :> coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings :to :> :> one and all of you. :> :> :> :> Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always :> :seems :> :> to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am :> :spirit :> :> weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many :sad :> :> things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, :Maurice’s :> :> death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much :stress, :> :> little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. :A :> :> little peace would be nice. :> :> :> :> 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode nly :> :> because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot :something. :> :As :> :> an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend :the :> :> occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in :the :> :> world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I :calling :> :ASL :> :> strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just :> :trying :> :> to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, :and :> :> somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating :> :> disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people :who :> :> are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out :to :> :> others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets :> :further :> :> away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have :> :seen :> :> recently posted. :> :> :> :> I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be :> :"back :> :> in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone :here, :> :> and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the :list :> f :> :> my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I :> :would :> :> like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the :> :wedding :> :> coming so close, :> :> :> :> It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation :I :> :> must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I :think :> :> they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one :– :> :you :> :> will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of :things :> :I :> :> write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take :such :> :> actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are :> :being :> :> sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have :> :done :> :> to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can :use :> :for :> :> the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. :where :> :> have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel :sorry :> :for :> :> you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you :> :feel :> :> yourself. :> :> :> :> The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting :through :> :> the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day :> :tomorrow :> :> be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To :so :> :> many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you :are :> :> always in my heart. :> :> :> :> — :> :> ************ :> :> Barbara :> :> Tirracamba :> :> "live and let live" :> :> ************ :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :>
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If you could send me the file you are having difficulty with, perhaps I could find something. One thing that comes to mind, is that the background may already be set to maximum. In that case, the only way you could increase it, is by decreasing everything else. KenJ Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article <7f7cf$162d3….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> P&M > Ken: > Nice to see you to Ken. Yes, I have never been one not to want to get > everything done, and in a perfect manner — typical A personality that has > been forced to change. Still hard though. > I have actually done a rendition of Hotel California that I think everyone > will enjoy, but I am still have a problem in figuring out why I cant get an > increase in the background sound during mixing. > Sigh > I think that is where the name, slave drive came from….. > — > ************ > Barbara > Tirracamba > "live and let live" > ************ > Ken Jentsch wrote in message > <01becea8$f6fc25a0$d0662…@KennethW.Jentsch>… > :Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to > :reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara first. > :She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with > :email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some > :relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. > :I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I have > :to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to > :read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > > : > :KenJ > : > : > :Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article > :<7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… > :> > :> Greetings everyone! > :> > :> I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. > :Hounds > :> of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really > :> powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a > :> difference. Strong and empowering. > :> > :> I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since > :I > :> left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say > :> that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number > f > :> posts they have made. > :> > :> Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new > :people > :> coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to > :> one and all of you. > :> > :> Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always > :seems > :> to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am > :spirit > :> weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad > :> things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s > :> death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, > :> little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A > :> little peace would be nice. > :> > :> 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only > :> because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. > :As > :> an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the > :> occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the > :> world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling > :ASL > :> strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just > :trying > :> to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and > :> somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating > :> disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who > :> are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to > :> others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets > :further > :> away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have > :seen > :> recently posted. > :> > :> I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be > :"back > :> in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, > :> and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list > f > :> my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I > :would > :> like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the > :wedding > :> coming so close, > :> > :> It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I > :> must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think > :> they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — > :you > :> will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things > :I > :> write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such > :> actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are > :being > :> sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have > :done > :> to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use > :for > :> the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where > :> have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry > :for > :> you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you > :feel > :> yourself. > :> > :> The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through > :> the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day > :tomorrow > :> be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so > :> many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are > :> always in my heart. > :> > :> — > :> ************ > :> Barbara > :> Tirracamba > :> "live and let live" > :> ************ > :> > :> > :> > :> > :> > :> > :>
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P&M Thank you for the welcome back Lerei Part of the support that I am able to give to people due to my conditions is the ability, when I am able, to send them a special "gift" of a card on the net. I spend so much time here when I can, that it is one way that I can let someone know that they were on my mind and that I wanted to make it something more than email. The person or persons that have chosen to do this have taken something very kind and given it an ugly twist. Granted, that some have found them to be a bit on the funny side — I have seen copies of MANY very rude and offending cards that only a person with poor taste would chose to send. And I guess it is also the fact that other people are being "used" in this. The people here in this group dont need to be harassed with this kind of thing. NO ONE has the right to do this to anyone. If this is someone’s idea of revenge, it is pretty lame to not just come right out on the street and get the thing over with. In the end they will have burnt so many bridges that they will have no where to turn to anymore. Revenge is the act of digging two graves instead of the one intended. Think about it. Dont you think that this kind of "harassment" goes to a new level of the words "low"? People can be hurt, even with things like this, and none of us like to believe that we are being "used" at the expense of someone else’s idea of a joke. My personal opinions. This topic does create alot of turmoil for me. I just shake my head in disbelief that people would do this kinda of thing. I am sure you would see the wisdom of this kind of activity ceasing — especially if it was harming other people. Yes I will continue to do what I can but now with a bitter taste in my mouth. What a sad thing, dont you think? Nonetheless I do appreciate your welcoming me back. Thank you– ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ le…@my-deja.com wrote in message <7mlooe$u3…@nnrp1.deja.com>…
ear Barbara, : :happy to see you back! I’m sure that your friends will :be understanding about the overload of your email. Feel :free to take your time for mine, I know that your delay :is more than justified. : :You seem to be too concerned for the cards. From the little :I’ve seen (posted here directly or pointers to the site), :they are blatant parodies. It is unlikely that some will :take them as true. Take it from me, there is nothing :to worry. Keep sending your supportive cards every time :you wish so. : :Hugs from :Giggle : :In article <7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>, : "Barbara" <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote: : :<snip> : : : : :Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ :Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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P&M Hey you little snake in the tall Texas grass. That was a might good squeeze!!!!! Thank you for jumping in on the thread. I was wondering how you were doing, but you know me,… thinking hard, but usually in bed while I am doing that…. <careful now> Big BC squuueeeezzzeeee right back at ya! — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Texcobra65 wrote in message
<19990715133550.26432.00000…@ng-cp1.aol.com>… :{{{{{{{{Barbara}}}}}}}}}, : : It’s good to see ya again. I missed you. Glad to hear you are in high :spirits. I’m wishing you all the best. : 
eace : :Cobra
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P&M Nanny: Always good to see you too. I wanna go to step ten and get there NOW (little pout) Yes, one day at a time, one sun rise and one sunset. When the sun rises here it is setting for someone else. But the promise of tomorrow is always present. Thinking of you — and I am sorry I have been so lame in writing. I will improve with age — or so they say… <evil grin> probably NOT ! — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Nanny wrote in message <7mki8m$gs…@news.worldonline.nl>…
:Welcome back, Barbara. o one thing at a time, and not too many in a day 
: :Hugs, Nanny : :– on’t be reckless with other peoples hearts. on’t put up with people who are reckless with yours. : : :Barbara wrote in message <7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>…
:> :>Greetings everyone! :> :>I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds :>of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really :>powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a :>difference. Strong and empowering. :> :>I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since I :>left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say :>that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number of :>posts they have made. :> :>Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new people :>coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to :>one and all of you. :> :>Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems :>to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit :>weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad :>things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s :>death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, :>little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A :>little peace would be nice. :> :>37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only :>because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. :As :>an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the :>occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the :>world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling ASL :>strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just trying :>to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and :>somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating :>disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who :>are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to :>others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets :further :>away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have seen :>recently posted. :> :>I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be "back :>in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, :>and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list of :>my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I :would :>like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the wedding :>coming so close, :> :>It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I :>must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think :>they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you :>will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I :>write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such :>actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being :>sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done :>to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use :for :>the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where :>have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for :>you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel :>yourself. :> :>The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through :>the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day :tomorrow :>be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so :>many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are :>always in my heart. :> :>– :>************ :>Barbara :>Tirracamba :>"live and let live" :>************ :> :> :> :> :> :> : :
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P&M Frans: Thank you for your warm welcome back. I gave her a SMOK on your behalf!!! — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Frans wrote in message <7mk65b$6e…@news.worldonline.nl>…
:Barbara wrote> :>Greetings everyone! : : :<snip> : : :>Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always :seems :>to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am :spirit :>weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many :sad :>things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s :>death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, :>little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. :A :>little peace would be nice. :> : : :So good to read you again in good spirit… Sorry about Mum. Give her a :smok from me, please… : :{{{{{cuddle}}}}} :Frans :
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P&M Eddie: How come you just seem to put the biggest grin on my face, and make me blush? I am sure by the time I get through the next bunch of days ahead that I will probably have to have a stand in….. <quirky smile> I was wondering if it wouldnt be easier if you and I just didnt take the tow rope up? — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Chief wrote in message <378E2ABB.BE524…@banet.net>…
:Nice to hear from you again Barbara. Methinks many of us are running up hill, I :think I’m trying to do it backwards. You relax now ya hear!!!!!! The next 36 r 37 days will be over before you know it and you will then be a beautiful :bride not just a beautiful person. I’ll be with you in thought, I’ll try to fly ver as you’re in my prayers. : :Hugs :Eddie (Chief) : :Barbara wrote:
: :> Greetings everyone! :> :> I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds :> of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really :> powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a :> difference. Strong and empowering. :> :> I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since I :> left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say :> that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number of :> posts they have made. :> :> Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new people :> coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to :> one and all of you. :> :> Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems :> to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit :> weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad :> things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s :> death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, :> little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A :> little peace would be nice. :> :> 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only :> because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. As :> an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the :> occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the :> world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling ASL :> strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just trying :> to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and :> somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating :> disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who :> are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to :> others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets further :> away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have seen :> recently posted. :> :> I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be "back :> in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, :> and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list of :> my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I would :> like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the wedding :> coming so close, :> :> It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I :> must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think :> they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you :> will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I :> write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such :> actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being :> sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done :> to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for :> the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where :> have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for :> you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel :> yourself. :> :> The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through :> the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow :> be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so :> many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are :> always in my heart. :> :> — :> ************ :> Barbara :> Tirracamba :> "live and let live" :> ************ :
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Frans <bow…@club.tip.nl> wrote in article <7mkcsr$c8…@news.worldonline.nl>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ken Jentsch heeft geschreven>… > >Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to > >reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara > first. > >She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with > >email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some > >relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. > >I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I > have > >to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to > >read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > > >KenJ > I know, it’s non of my business, but this is sweet. Ken, your age is > showing… )) > Frans
Oh no, not AGAIN. < smile > Thank You… I like compliments. KenJ
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Dear Barbara, happy to see you back! I’m sure that your friends will be understanding about the overload of your email. Feel free to take your time for mine, I know that your delay is more than justified. You seem to be too concerned for the cards. From the little I’ve seen (posted here directly or pointers to the site), they are blatant parodies. It is unlikely that some will take them as true. Take it from me, there is nothing to worry. Keep sending your supportive cards every time you wish so. Hugs from Giggle In article <7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>, "Barbara" <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote: <snip> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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P&M Ken: Nice to see you to Ken. Yes, I have never been one not to want to get everything done, and in a perfect manner — typical A personality that has been forced to change. Still hard though. I have actually done a rendition of Hotel California that I think everyone will enjoy, but I am still have a problem in figuring out why I cant get an increase in the background sound during mixing. Sigh I think that is where the name, slave drive came from….. — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Ken Jentsch wrote in message
<01becea8$f6fc25a0$d0662…@KennethW.Jentsch>… :Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to :reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara first. :She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with :email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some :relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. :I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I have :to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to :read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > : :KenJ : : :Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article :<7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… :> :> Greetings everyone! :> :> I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. :Hounds :> of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really :> powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a :> difference. Strong and empowering. :> :> I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since :I :> left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say :> that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number f :> posts they have made. :> :> Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new :people :> coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to :> one and all of you. :> :> Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always :seems :> to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am :spirit :> weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad :> things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s :> death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, :> little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A :> little peace would be nice. :> :> 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only :> because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. :As :> an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the :> occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the :> world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling :ASL :> strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just :trying :> to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and :> somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating :> disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who :> are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to :> others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets :further :> away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have :seen :> recently posted. :> :> I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be :"back :> in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, :> and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list f :> my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I :would :> like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the :wedding :> coming so close, :> :> It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I :> must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think :> they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — :you :> will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things :I :> write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such :> actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are :being :> sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have :done :> to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use :for :> the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where :> have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry :for :> you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you :feel :> yourself. :> :> The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through :> the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day :tomorrow :> be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so :> many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are :> always in my heart. :> :> — :> ************ :> Barbara :> Tirracamba :> "live and let live" :> ************ :> :> :> :> :> :> :>
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{{{{{{{{Barbara}}}}}}}}}, It’s good to see ya again. I missed you. Glad to hear you are in high spirits. I’m wishing you all the best. Peace Cobra
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Nice to hear from you again Barbara. Methinks many of us are running up hill, I think I’m trying to do it backwards. You relax now ya hear!!!!!! The next 36 or 37 days will be over before you know it and you will then be a beautiful bride not just a beautiful person. I’ll be with you in thought, I’ll try to fly over as you’re in my prayers. Hugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Barbara wrote: > Greetings everyone! > I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds > of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really > powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a > difference. Strong and empowering. > I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since I > left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say > that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number of > posts they have made. > Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new people > coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to > one and all of you. > Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems > to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit > weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad > things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s > death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, > little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A > little peace would be nice. > 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only > because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. As > an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the > occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the > world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling ASL > strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just trying > to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and > somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating > disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who > are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to > others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets further > away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have seen > recently posted. > I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be "back > in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, > and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list of > my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I would > like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the wedding > coming so close, > It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I > must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think > they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you > will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I > write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such > actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being > sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done > to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for > the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where > have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for > you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel > yourself. > The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through > the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow > be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so > many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are > always in my heart. > — > ************ > Barbara > Tirracamba > "live and let live" > ************
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Ken Jentsch heeft geschreven>… >Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to >reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara first. >She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with >email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some >relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. >I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I have >to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to >read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > >KenJ
I know, it’s non of my business, but this is sweet. Ken, your age is showing… )) Frans
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Welcome back, Barbara. Do one thing at a time, and not too many in a day Hugs, Nanny — Don’t be reckless with other peoples hearts. Don’t put up with people who are reckless with yours. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Barbara wrote in message <7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… >Greetings everyone! >I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds >of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really >powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a >difference. Strong and empowering. >I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since I >left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say >that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number of >posts they have made. >Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new people >coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to >one and all of you. >Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems >to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit >weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad >things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s >death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, >little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A >little peace would be nice. >37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only >because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. As >an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the >occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the >world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling ASL >strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just trying >to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and >somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating >disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who >are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to >others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets further >away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have seen >recently posted. >I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be "back >in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, >and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list of >my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I would >like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the wedding >coming so close, >It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I >must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think >they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you >will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I >write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such >actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being >sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done >to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for >the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where >have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for >you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel >yourself. >The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through >the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow >be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so >many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are >always in my heart. >– >************ >Barbara >Tirracamba >"live and let live" >************
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Nice to see you back. I was about to send you an email. I wish to reiterate something I’ve said before. Please take care of Barbara first. She is the most important. THEN you can worry about catching up with email, posting to ASL, and recording songs. Take care and get some relaxation first before you try to get back into doing too many things. I’ll be looking for you in cyberworld in the near future. Even if I have to wait until after the wedding. It’ll be worth the wait to be able to read "stuff" from you again. Please DO try to get some rest. < smile > KenJ Barbara <bgr…@intouch.bc.ca> wrote in article <7e7cf$131f23….@srv4.reelwest.bc.ca>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Greetings everyone! > I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds > of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really > powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a > difference. Strong and empowering. > I have but only glanced at some of the postings that have been made since I > left to deal with the recent death in my family,….. and I can only say > that some people should be able to collect "typing miles" for the number of > posts they have made. > Interesting new faces here. People from the past re-appearing, new people > coming forward…. yes it has been a very interesting read. Greetings to > one and all of you. > Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems > to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit > weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad > things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s > death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, > little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A > little peace would be nice. > 37 days left until the wedding. I am now getting into a panic mode only > because everything is done, and I keep thinking I have forgot something. As > an aside,…. it looks like 3 friends from ASL will be able to attend the > occasion — this makes C and I happy. Sometimes the nicest things in the > world are the people you meet in the strangest of places. Am I calling ASL > strange? <grin> yeap. Collectively we are a bunch of people just trying > to get by with whatever we can when things get tough. Interesting, and > somewhat sad how some people seem to take pleasure out of creating > disruption and developing further contempt,… especially from people who > are here to deal with their loneliness and fears through reaching out to > others on the internet. Not a perfect solution,… but it even gets further > away from reality and help when they have to wade through what I have seen > recently posted. > I will post a couple of items to CENTRAL and BOX tonight, and will be "back > in business" as soon as I can. I have a song to record for someone here, > and then another one for someone else special here,… and then the list of > my chores becomes even more endless! The songs may take longer than I would > like, but I have precious little margin for pushing myself with the wedding > coming so close, > It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I > must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think > they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you > will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I > write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such > actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being > sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done > to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for > the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where > have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for > you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel > yourself. > The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through > the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow > be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so > many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are > always in my heart. > — > ************ > Barbara > Tirracamba > "live and let live" > ************
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Barbara wrote> >Greetings everyone!
<snip> >Yes, I know, my mailbox is very full, and once again,… as it always seems >to be the case, I beg your patience as I respond back to you. I am spirit >weary and hoping that the sun will shine for me again soon. So many sad >things in the past week,… including my Mother becoming ill, Maurice’s >death, me denting my brand new truck., all contributing to much stress, >little sleep, and increasing of meds to compensate…… good grief. A >little peace would be nice.
So good to read you again in good spirit… Sorry about Mum. Give her a smok from me, please… {{{{{cuddle}}}}} Frans
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Barbara (bgr…@intouch.bc.ca) wrote:
: : Greetings everyone! : : I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds : of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really : powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a : difference. Strong and empowering. And side 2, "The Ninth Wave", is about the 1979 Fastnet race disaster. And you’re talking to the Love-Hound who figured that out! See http://gaffa.org/dreaming/tnw_ff10.html Henry B. Messenger 1994 was a long time ago… http://satanic.org/~cenobite
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Dear Barbara……Welcome back {{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}} You have been missed very much, and it is good to see you back safe and sound…..well, okay….safe. <grin> While things are rather bleak at the moment, the light of love and caring and support does still shine…and your presence adds some brilliance to that shine. Please take care…and get yourself plenty of rest !! Hugs and Smiles, Gina I should care if the wind blows east or west I should fret if the worst looks like the best I should mind if they say it can’t be true I should smile that’s exactly what I do —Irving Berlin
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Welcome Home, Barbara ) I’ve missed you!….{hugs} Will write more in another email. – >I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds >of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really >powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a >difference. Strong and empowering.
<respectfully snipped> Regards, Jenn http://members.aol.com/jeneve23/enter.html - – - – - I’m so tired of playing, Playing with this bow and arrow, Gonna give my heart away, Leave it to the other girls to play -Portishead
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P&M Hugs right back at you Jennifer. Good to see you and I look forward to your email when you find the time….. <grimace> It is probably my turn again anyway…. <quirky grin> — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Jenn wrote in message <19990714231728.08100.00000…@ng-ci1.aol.com>…
:Welcome Home, Barbara ) I’ve missed you!….{hugs} Will write more in another :email. :- :>I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds :>of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really :>powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a :>difference. Strong and empowering. :<respectfully snipped> : : : :Regards, Jenn :http://members.aol.com/jeneve23/enter.html : – - – - – :I’m so tired of playing, laying with this bow and arrow, :Gonna give my heart away, :Leave it to the other girls to play ortishead
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P&M Jae: Yes it is a sad thing indeed. Yes — I will "warn" any of you that I do send cards to — I thought I had work ahead of me before…. Good grief…. — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ LadyJae wrote in message <378D5660.4DB6D…@ccms.net>…
: : :Barbara wrote:
: :> It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I :> must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think :> they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you :> will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I :> write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such :> actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being :> sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done :> to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for :> the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where :> have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for :> you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel :> yourself. :> :> The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through :> the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow :> be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so :> many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are :> always in my heart. :> : : Good to see you able to be here, darlin’. <smile> I always enjoyed your :cards, but if they ever come again and if they are ever a "joke" card, which has :brought me laughter in the past, please warn me first. I know that takes the :fun out of it for you and I am truly sorry for that……for both of us. warm :hugs, Jae : : :– : : "The trouble with the rat race is……… : That even if you win, you’re still a rat." : : Lily Tomlin : :
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P&M Hank: Oh, this was an amazing read Hank!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH. I love to know what inspires people to write music, and you, and the articles following exclain, did an EXCELLENT job. So,…. what EXACTLY is a Love Hound?? Does THIS have anything to do with the track on the album? Thank you Hank. You are always an amazing voice that comes out of the darkness to make my life a little sweeter. Thanks. It is good to see you. — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Henry B. Messenger wrote in message <932014031.43…@news.satanic.org>… :Barbara (bgr…@intouch.bc.ca) wrote:
:: :: Greetings everyone! :: :: I happen to be listening to an older album of Kate Bush tonight,…. Hounds :: of Love and the Song Running Up That Hill is playing. This is a really :: powerful album about being helpless and her conviction to try and make a :: difference. Strong and empowering. : :And side 2, "The Ninth Wave", is about the 1979 Fastnet race disaster. And :you’re talking to the Love-Hound who figured that out! See :http://gaffa.org/dreaming/tnw_ff10.html : :Henry B. Messenger 1994 was a long time ago… : http://satanic.org/~cenobite
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Barbara wrote: > It is sad that I must do this, but I guess due to the recent situation I > must. I am known for sending e-cards to those I care about when I think > they really need one. Please be advised that if I chose to send one — you > will know. For those I have sent cards to, you know the kinds of things I > write in these cards. I hope that the person who has chosen to take such > actions against people – both the receiver and the person they are being > sent on "behalf" of, understands what a horrible thing that they have done > to one of the few kind and gentle things on the net that someone can use for > the purpose of supporting someone when they need it. Support….. where > have I heard and seen that word before? Who ever you are, I feel sorry for > you. Sorry that you must lash out at others because of the unrest you feel > yourself. > The sun will rise tomorrow, and once again we work toward getting through > the day with the least amount of batters and bruises. May your day tomorrow > be beautiful to you and may it bring a little peace to your heart. To so > many of you,… you are often just out of reach in my mind, but you are > always in my heart.
Good to see you able to be here, darlin’. <smile> I always enjoyed your cards, but if they ever come again and if they are ever a "joke" card, which has brought me laughter in the past, please warn me first. I know that takes the fun out of it for you and I am truly sorry for that……for both of us. warm hugs, Jae — "The trouble with the rat race is……… That even if you win, you’re still a rat." Lily Tomlin
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(((((Barbara)))))) I don’t know how, with all you have been going through, you can sound so damned GOOD in spirit!
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please don’t make me cry –Jen, who feels the same way
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Make me a pretty person and make me Feel like I belong Make me hard and make me happy Make me beautiful The emptiness The craziness Satisfy this loneliness "If we sleep together"/Garbage Bluebird who understands these lyrics only too well
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Just some thoughts… It’s so easy to get caught up in fretting over the past, and it doesn’t do any good. When you say you think how many years you have lost – surely you did something during those years? Went to school, went to work, read a book, etc.? They’re not wasted years just because you weren’t in a relationship. (I used to rather obsessively figure out how long it was since the last time I had sex…. and no, I will not tell you the current answer!) Also – it isn’t always so easy to be a blonde with large breasts – I know, because I am one (although not so young anymore). Yes, you get hit on, but often men assume you are not too bright (it’s not possible for someone to have both breasts and brains, I guess) – they’re looking for a blonde bimbo. This isn’t the way to a real relationship, at least it wasn’t for me. Finally, shyness. My third son is quite shy, the only one in our family, and I’ve watched him work on it over the years. He makes a point of signing up for all kinds of activities – clubs at school, recreational things in the community, and even looks for part-time where he will meet lots of new people. At first, he feels awkward. But as he works with people, he gradually gets to feel comfortable with them and the shyness wears off. It takes him longer than it does many people, but he’s come to accept that as part of his personality. You’re not starting from nothing – you are starting from today, and that’s all any of us have. Teresa
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Hi Chris, I fully understand your feelings of anger. Life is so unfair. And I do think you have reasons for feeling angry. It isn’t just your own fault that you are lonely. But you are probably the only one who can do anything about it. /Kent
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I’ve been kind of the pariah since I was 8. The only true friends I ever had was online. Jesus, I would probably commit suicide if I let my phone/modem get disconnected for more than 3 days. You have a right to be angry and fustrated at life itself but try not to let it get to you or it’ll be much much worst. Personally, I find that the best way to relieve this anger would be just to give up on life, not care anymore, and go out and do what you’ve been afraid to do all your life and just act like there’s no tomorrow. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CWY34 wrote: > I recently posted for the first time and thank you for all of your caring > responses. I guess part of my problem recently seems to be the fact that I > focus on the years that I have lost in loneliness. I basically have had no > close relationships for many years. I am only 24 yet since the age of 13 I have > not even had a best friend. Recently, I let my phone disconnect for two years! > Not many people can function that way yet it really didn’t make much difference > in my life for I knew no one. Anyway, over the past year or so I have really > tried to turn things around. I got into the theater group at school, worked out > every day at the health club and started bartending at night. Yet I am starting > to realize that a lot of anger has built up over these years of isolation. I > am angry at the world for letting this happen to me. I someitmes look at some > young, blond haired girl with big tits and just know that she has probably had > a social life handed to her on a platter with guys hitting on her all the time > and it is frustrating. I feel like in god’s ten commandments he should have > added…"thou shault not be shy" because jesus, that seems like the greatest > sin of all..for it leads to terrible punishment…loneliness. I don’t want to > be this angry. I really am trying to accept responsibility for my loneliness > and realize that it is a direct result of my actions in life. It’s just hard > for me not to feel angry and cheated by life sometimes. Hope some of you can > understand. > CHRIS
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CWY34 wrote: > I recently posted for the first time and thank you for all of your caring > responses. I guess part of my problem recently seems to be the fact that I > focus on the years that I have lost in loneliness. I basically have had no > close relationships for many years. I am only 24 yet since the age of 13 I have > not even had a best friend. Recently, I let my phone disconnect for two years! > Not many people can function that way yet it really didn’t make much difference > in my life for I knew no one. Anyway, over the past year or so I have really > tried to turn things around. I got into the theater group at school, worked out > every day at the health club and started bartending at night. Yet I am starting > to realize that a lot of anger has built up over these years of isolation. I > am angry at the world for letting this happen to me. I someitmes look at some > young, blond haired girl with big tits and just know that she has probably had > a social life handed to her on a platter with guys hitting on her all the time > and it is frustrating. I feel like in god’s ten commandments he should have > added…"thou shault not be shy" because jesus, that seems like the greatest > sin of all..for it leads to terrible punishment…loneliness. I don’t want to > be this angry. I really am trying to accept responsibility for my loneliness > and realize that it is a direct result of my actions in life. It’s just hard > for me not to feel angry and cheated by life sometimes. Hope some of you can > understand. > CHRIS
Chris, I think many can understand. I didn’t experience the "anger", but I can understand how it can be felt. Shyness is so difficult. I still don’t think that I’ve overcome it, but I am able to push it into the background and have literally trained myself to seem outgoing and confident. So, I’m proof that it can be done. But, sometime, you still have to let "someone" know the real *you*. That, was never possible for me, until just recently. Then, again, shyness was only one of many factors in my makeup as I’m sure it is in others, yourself included. You can feel angry and cheated, but you still do have to *do* something to change things. Not everyone can sit around and be rescued from themselves. It sounds like you’re making a good start. Just keep at it, and keep telling us your feelings. The hardest part for me, was being honest about my feelings, <laugh> I should have said, even realizing I had any and then admitting that I had any. Those who have been here long enough, have watched me grow here. And I have watched others. It’s strange how the "caring" here helps us. For me, it has been slow, it seems, and I am still working on myself. At first, each time I shared something of myself, here, it had to be torn from me, and then I regretted it. I find it easier now. I never did post an "introduction" as many of you have. Never did tell my "story". I could not and cannot. It comes out in bits and pieces. I envy you your ability to speak your feelings. I know that will help you and help us to help you. Hugs, J — May I Always Live Where The Sky Is Open Fences Are Not, And The Spirit Walks. A Sioux Perspective
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I recently posted for the first time and thank you for all of your caring responses. I guess part of my problem recently seems to be the fact that I focus on the years that I have lost in loneliness. I basically have had no close relationships for many years. I am only 24 yet since the age of 13 I have not even had a best friend. Recently, I let my phone disconnect for two years! Not many people can function that way yet it really didn’t make much difference in my life for I knew no one. Anyway, over the past year or so I have really tried to turn things around. I got into the theater group at school, worked out every day at the health club and started bartending at night. Yet I am starting to realize that a lot of anger has built up over these years of isolation. I am angry at the world for letting this happen to me. I someitmes look at some young, blond haired girl with big tits and just know that she has probably had a social life handed to her on a platter with guys hitting on her all the time and it is frustrating. I feel like in god’s ten commandments he should have added…"thou shault not be shy" because jesus, that seems like the greatest sin of all..for it leads to terrible punishment…loneliness. I don’t want to be this angry. I really am trying to accept responsibility for my loneliness and realize that it is a direct result of my actions in life. It’s just hard for me not to feel angry and cheated by life sometimes. Hope some of you can understand. CHRIS
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