Another bad joke. (My *SECOND*, and probably last post).
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"Anonymous, too" <anonymous-…@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
news:3AB60AB2@MailAndNews.com… > Uff. This is a crazy night. And whatta crazy time for me. > Maybe the craziest in my life. I dared to speak in public > for the first time and to tell my opinion. But if I had > posted that straight to hell, I wouldn’t receive a crueller > reply!!!
Dear, get a grip.. it’s text, and we happen to be humans in honesty. it you think that my response was cruel.. gee.. you never would have made it for a week on this group about 1 1/2 years ago. > People c’mon, wake up, *I* AM NOT *HIM*!!!!!!!!
Then you need to take responsibility for your words in support of his vulgarity to me personaly and to Angela, Nick and you dragged Kayla into it for simply giving me support of what she knows is a man who terrorized me on and off the net for years. Anonymous has a history, tthe one I worry about, he’s quite internet savy, he can telenet and log into any nation and post from there or use an anomymous proxy server for his IP.. hard to catch, but catchable by observing the system that is his own server and catching his posts directly from his server posting them.. > It was my first post here on ASL. This is my second one. > Yes, and whatta start – another ***Death Thread*** !!! > The main thing I was so scared when reading your mails! > And this time it is straight against *ME*!! Now, this > is more than a bad joke, I think.
Why scared.. if it wasn’t you, and you were only defending another who is by history vidictive, cynical and cruel to other’s what have you to fear? After all, if you have been lurking as long as you say.. you would have total picture concept.. you lie if you say you didn’t wish to disrupt! > And what a strange and bizzare situation for me now. > Life is full of surprises. I keep telling this to myself day > by day. Yet, this HAD surprised me. I was writing that mail > for almost half of a day. I was trying *my best* to choose > the right words – literally, I was considering every single > word – to insure myself that their recipients might not feel > touched or offended in some way. ALL IN VAIN!
Yep, it was, for if you persisist in insiting another to be vulger to those other "people" globally I won’t be supportive of you.. why should I be? Why would I? > For I wasn’t aware of one simple fact. Now you all think it > was just another trick made by Anonymous. Maybe I should > choose some "better" nickname, but why, when I did’t want > to join your "club".
Publically posted global newsgroup, one that no one owns, no one runs, no one has anymore value, and no one’s a "goddess" of it either.. I found that a tasteless and tacky dig.. I am but a poster > And now this crazy night full of > brutal terror and threads against me. It was probably more > than I deserved, don’t you think?
Who threatened you and brutally terrorized you? hey.. I have eperience in this? I can help you deal with the simplicity of verbal brutilization.. handle it.. be a man.. explain yourself, make sense.. >Just for being honest > (for once again in my life) and speaking my opinion which > supported one person you all hate here. I was awaiting > that you automatically start hating me too – and unfortunately > I was right with this, in fact – but THIS – an idea that it > could be ME who will be considered to be Anonymous… Uff… > So this time, it was probably *me* who was "very, very > primitive and childish." (Sorry Kayla!)
Sad, then you set yourself up by not giving the total picture of the reality of Anonymous.. and you mimicked his name just to agitate other’s on a support group.. guess you planned internally and set yourself up in text for your own inevitable goal.. didn’t you? And now your complaining for achieving the "goal" you set yourself up for? Imagine that.. you were victorious and now you are justifying your own actions done with intent to stir the pot.. you amaze me.. you achieved.. and yet you didn’t want the victory you set out to gain? Somehow a man who would support another man who belittles other’s for their feelings, posts of vulgarity and insinuendo’s of sexual relations and preys on the mind of the troubled.. is not someone I would support personally.. I feel no need of apology to you, for you desired the outcome in reality. > All I wanted was to BEG YOU to stop the violence in this group.
Where’s violence? I see a whole world of beautiful people that are attacked and instigated by only anonymous accounts. What’s violent about a nurse venting frustrations when they work in a world of ever saving other’s lives? It’s theraputic actually when one deals with death daily and it was done with intent to make me smile, and perhaps some other medical people who read the group.. so what’s the problem with supporting each other with a life’s work of silly offbeat kidding to release emotional stress and pressure in an emotionally stressful situation? > (Nick, Kayla – I’ve read your replies. I thank you for them btw. > Maybe I will reply you some day later, but now I’m too scared.)
I am glad you supported them.. perhaps you also owe Kayla and another who vented an apology! Your human.. so are we! Who are you to judge them for having human feelings towards each other and reacting to them in singular posts? If you were only insiting and agitating.. rather than giving or recieving support.. what again is your concern? You don’t care about us as people. you will now have to show remourse for causing those responses.. isn’t that simple reality.. you take responsibility for your words that cause other’s to overreact.. you "explain" > DEAREST PAMELA – I would like to talk to You right now. Give me > please a few minutes of Your time. Don’t You care now about what > I wrote to You in my previous mail, now it all seems so unimportant > to me. I see that I DID hurt You, I see I caused You pain and anger. > And – oh my God – maybe it was more than HE could ever do better!!! > Now I feel so desperate, so sorry, and so confused. This was NOT my > purpose, believe me, please.
Didn’t see it.. I don’t live on the internet much these days.. unless it’s to work on sites and servers and a gazzillian emails in which I’m very behind right now.. I’m not paid to be here, I am simply one who cares about a whole bunch of people and ASL is a bit of my home and family to me too.. and therefore as a human I feel no "Demand or responsibility" to respond to anyone "right now" Your intent was to agitate, and support another who is nonsupportive to any.. you succeded.. you must face the reality that yes, you inside of you planned to cause pain for you knew if you were lurking, as you have seen and as I have said to other’s and having read Anonymous postings.. I am frequently attacked.. and it’s been years on here.. and years on my own service and against my users.. the man even has a woman in his life whom he is abusing verbally and perhaps violently.. and I am the "blame" somehow for every problem he has.. it is the way of him.. However I don’t fear him in person and it’s the only method of sorts he has remaining to cause me harm.. I won’t be blamed by you either for your own words or actions.. I would like to help however the woman he’s currently abusing or any woman who finds themselves in an abusive situation by making him face his cold hard reality.. it’s within him to deal with his hate, anger, and actions and words to other’s.. much like you must face your own music… kay. > All I was saying was my opinion. I DIDN’T SAY I AGREED with his attacks > against You and others – it’s not my business at all. My point was that > I felt that You were a bit unfair to him in that one particular coversation > and in few Your posts later. But forget this all now, PLEASE!!
Pardon me, however, I find little tolerance for sexual statements and watching people "Note —–> people" I care about being pushed around by a bully that is Anonymous and lacks responsibility for his words.. that to me.. is not a man.. > You are full of hatred now. Now I see this is serious. You hunt for this > person. You want him. Death or alive, no matter. It’s Your fight, NOT MINE. > I’m not judging anyone. I’m just UNIMPORTANT OBSERVER. Just another sad > and lonely person. Hm, maybe like You, too.
I think it’s serious, we have a landmark issue occuring on a global newsgroup, how much tolarance should be had for using a Communication tool called The Internet, one which connects countries.. makes us all a people of one world and not of one country.. How much should another be allowed to abuse, stalk, and what is the cause and affect that will occur if total anonymouty is maintained without responsibility to the rest of the internet? Tell me.. if you recieved negatives in your email.. you gained the result of what you set out to find? What is your complaint? I still don’t understand this whining you are doing.. you support someone who has caused disruption and harm for years on a support newsgroup, insiting litteral hate and verbal war country to country and degraded each and every country on the internet by pulling them into a battle in loneliness, causing them to blame each other and instill a burning anger, a litteral lockup in our souls because we care for each other, even if we have never met? And you wonder why Anonymous is disliked and sought out to prosecute? Where are you from? > Yes, of course… You still don’t believe me. Hm… "tell ya what…" > You surprised me, now I’ll surprise You!!! Read on… > What’s your private e-mail you are currently checking? > 1) "unicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com" or
<snip> You and any may use it.. however.. it’s a high volume email for support of others.. if I am not treated with freindship and respect for my own opinion, my own words, my own feelings of pain and my intellegence I have absolutely no desire to communicate and support.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You and Your attorney can "verify me". I’m not scared of it!! > Hm, I must
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Uff. This is a crazy night. And whatta crazy time for me. Maybe the craziest in my life. I dared to speak in public for the first time and to tell my opinion. But if I had posted that straight to hell, I wouldn’t receive a crueller reply!!! People c’mon, wake up, *I* AM NOT *HIM*!!!!!!!! It was my first post here on ASL. This is my second one. Yes, and whatta start – another ***Death Thread*** !!! The main thing I was so scared when reading your mails! And this time it is straight against *ME*!! Now, this is more than a bad joke, I think. And what a strange and bizzare situation for me now. Life is full of surprises. I keep telling this to myself day by day. Yet, this HAD surprised me. I was writing that mail for almost half of a day. I was trying *my best* to choose the right words – literally, I was considering every single word – to insure myself that their recipients might not feel touched or offended in some way. ALL IN VAIN! For I wasn’t aware of one simple fact. Now you all think it was just another trick made by Anonymous. Maybe I should choose some "better" nickname, but why, when I did’t want to join your "club". And now this crazy night full of brutal terror and threads against me. It was probably more than I deserved, don’t you think? Just for being honest (for once again in my life) and speaking my opinion which supported one person you all hate here. I was awaiting that you automatically start hating me too – and unfortunately I was right with this, in fact – but THIS – an idea that it could be ME who will be considered to be Anonymous… Uff… So this time, it was probably *me* who was "very, very primitive and childish." (Sorry Kayla!) All I wanted was to BEG YOU to stop the violence in this group. (Nick, Kayla – I’ve read your replies. I thank you for them btw. Maybe I will reply you some day later, but now I’m too scared.) DEAREST PAMELA – I would like to talk to You right now. Give me please a few minutes of Your time. Don’t You care now about what I wrote to You in my previous mail, now it all seems so unimportant to me. I see that I DID hurt You, I see I caused You pain and anger. And – oh my God – maybe it was more than HE could ever do better!!! Now I feel so desperate, so sorry, and so confused. This was NOT my purpose, believe me, please. All I was saying was my opinion. I DIDN’T SAY I AGREED with his attacks against You and others – it’s not my business at all. My point was that I felt that You were a bit unfair to him in that one particular coversation and in few Your posts later. But forget this all now, PLEASE!! You are full of hatred now. Now I see this is serious. You hunt for this person. You want him. Death or alive, no matter. It’s Your fight, NOT MINE. I’m not judging anyone. I’m just UNIMPORTANT OBSERVER. Just another sad and lonely person. Hm, maybe like You, too. Yes, of course… You still don’t believe me. Hm… "tell ya what…" You surprised me, now I’ll surprise You!!! Read on… What’s your private e-mail you are currently checking? 1) "unicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com" or 2) "Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com" ?? If You are interested, I will send You private e-mail including the following information (ALL REAL!!!). My: a) Academic degree b) First name c) Last name d) Date of birth e) Place of birth f) Full address g) E-mail address (to my local ISP) h) ICQ number i) Mobile phone number j) URL and e-mails to people at university where I finished my studies k) business e-mail addresses of my 3 best friends who know me for more than 10 years l) any other personal information You would like to know. You and Your attorney can "verify me". I’m not scared of it!! Hm, I must admit I WAS MORE SCARED when I was reading your post full of anger and sorrow. It really DID depressed me. I never caused any pain to anyone in my life, and now this. If You really think I am HIM, I’ll give You a chance to verify this and correct Your opinion on me. I know that this could be somewhat hazardous because as I told You in my previous mail: "I don’t believe You". I have no guarantee of WHAT will You do with my private data. But I DO have THE NERVE to do what’s stated above. I’m innocent! (Dear Nick, you think you are a brave person when you use your "real name" here? Yes, very admirable. So why then not speak against those death threads issued here recently?! Or is it what priests like you would like to see??) NOW, TO EVERYONE READING THIS: One thing I should explain now is what was the reason why I chosed to "hide myself" behind anonymous news server "MailAndNews.com". It was a very simple reason. I have my friends. I’m *not sure* if they are reading this or not. They all know me as a honest and fair person who never breaks his promise. The only thing I have to *hide* to them is that I’m in fact *a lonely person* and *I’m subccribing* to such crazy group like ASL. They all think I’m a happy man. Unfortunately, it’s not true. Now I see you all don’t like me. Because of one single mail I DARED TO POST to explain my opinion. It was a bad move of mine, now I can see it, it was really a big mistake. Too many mistakes this year in my life. Anyways, I’m sorry if I offended anyone. I really DO apologize. ********** I’m stating here that after March, 1st., (after I read all your replies, dare I ?) I will cancel my account at "MailAndNews.com", and I will never post to ASL again from this account or from my local ISP’s account, unless at least 3 (-three-) regular members allow me to do so. ********** You all must see that I did my best to play fair with you. You all must see that I’ve got my pride and I’m not the one you are supposing to be. And I’m not afraid TO PROVE IT. Firstly to Pamela, since SHE was the one I –unconsciously– offended. If anyone else interested, just let me know. (By the way, if you looked closer to my words – in this and in my previous mail – most of you, as native speakers, MUST have seen at the very first glance that I’m not the person you are hunting for. Watch my phrases, watch my vocabulary, watch my grammar. Watch mistakes in my poor English!! HE is from Canada or U.S., no doubts. Dear Pamela, in the meantime, buy some good map OF EUROPE!!) And finally, please now – let ME wish you all a marvellous weekend. And forget me forever, b. PS: Pamela, now You know what to do. Just type in something like "1bcf", or something like that. I will understand… kay… AND SORRY AGAIN FOR ALL THIS MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
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