Need relationship advice/opinion

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cross-posting removed…and part of message "very carefully" snipped… >Just remember that before she sees >your knob, the girl’s got to see the rest of you, so I’d concentrate >on that if I were you.

This is the best advice I’ve seen in this thread. Of course, I’m not finished reading yet…but this one kinda jumped out….because it addresses the "real" issue. Smiles, Gina ….Just be yourself tonight….. There’s nothing wrong with the way you feel, The moon and stars are in the sky…." —Eurythmics

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Wow! On 2 Dec 1998 00:15:07 GMT cj…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eloi Beaudoin) came out with THIS: >I never heard a woman yet tell me she named "hers" a name, >male or female name though….Nor measure them to compare notes. >Nor say "I have a probblem. I am a virgin and my vagina is >(5, 8 or 24 inches deep):). Life’s unfair, huh?:) >You’d wonder after all what exactly men measure theirs for….

Ever heard a group of men discuss cars, or sports teams? They just love numbers, figures, measuring stuff… and their nether regions are just as much a part of all that. Except they generally don’t discuss it with other men… If a man tells you he’s never measured his, he’s LYING. It’s a quintessential male adolescent moment, standing naked with a ruler thinking "Hmm, I wonder…"

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No kidding, this is a really interesting point…I’ve never actually gone in there with a measuring tape to see just how long it is before I hit my cervix… And what do you think, do you measure to your hymen or the outside of your labia?? I bet some men just thought it went on forever…straight up into your uterus or something…they don’t even think??? ….what’s the usefulness of a 10" dick…well I can tell you if I ever see one…I’m running…and this, someone from a background in Obstetrics. Anyhow, ours changes with time of the month…how many men knew that? Or whether we bear down or not…how many men knew that? I had trouble getting a contraceptive sponge out once…it was just too damn high up there…so I must have a really long one then.:-))) Anyhow it was an embarrassing moment…calling him on his cellular to say…I have a slight problem I sort of need your help with …it was now 31hrs…had to come out…I was worried he’d be grossed out about it and I’d have to go to the hospital…(Sun am )…imagine being the emergency physician.:-) Anyhow he was quite good about it…and most cooperative…and he got that slippery sucked on little sucker out…so I guess I’m not 10 inches.:-))) Needless to say I don’t recommend contraceptive sponges. Solo Dont.you.dare…@m.me wrote in message

<36682639.10599…@news.freeserve.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Wow! On 2 Dec 1998 00:15:07 GMT cj…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eloi >Beaudoin) came out with THIS: >>I never heard a woman yet tell me she named "hers" a name, >>male or female name though….Nor measure them to compare notes. >>Nor say "I have a probblem. I am a virgin and my vagina is >>(5, 8 or 24 inches deep):). Life’s unfair, huh?:) >>You’d wonder after all what exactly men measure theirs for…. >Ever heard a group of men discuss cars, or sports teams? They just >love numbers, figures, measuring stuff… and their nether regions are >just as much a part of all that. Except they generally don’t discuss >it with other men… >If a man tells you he’s never measured his, he’s LYING. It’s a >quintessential male adolescent moment, standing naked with a ruler >thinking "Hmm, I wonder…"

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Solo wrote:

Needless > to say I don’t recommend contraceptive sponges.

Same here. Sponges suck! Not only did they make me ill, they didn’t work. And some women do have long ones, that’s why I don’t recommend the sponges.

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WHOAH what a conversation. So I am six inches from the top of my thang to the tip. I have no problem telling anyone because, so what. If you love it should not matter. If you don’t, then your opinion doesn’t mater. I always assumed that it was the love and romance and friendship that mattered. 10 inches, I wouldn’t even know what to do with that. Maybe use it as a leg. Stimpson

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"Solo" (sm_pe…@yahoo.com) writes: > Very ingenious name…I like it…does it work? > My my my, male virgins just coming out of the woodwork…I think there have > been 3 in the past week. You had a very good point, seeing as how the > "knob" (I kind of like "love wand" myself )

Hm. Don’t like "Love wand" much myself…I had a good laugh though when a woman I know refered to it as "a joy stick":):) And another whisper to her boy friend loud enough for it to be overheard "Go go gadget penis!":) People and names they will give "it":) : A penpal of mine never believed me once when I said some men actually give their penis a name. Of course no one would ever admit to it here on the ng:). And usually it is female names they give their penis. That much for Freudian theories..;-). I knew "Harriet" and "Mathhilda" myself:):) LOL:) So silly it can sound, to name one’s body part a person’s name:), but funny as in "cute" too:). I never heard a woman yet tell me she named "hers" a name, male or female name though….Nor measure them to compare notes. Nor say "I have a probblem. I am a virgin and my vagina is (5, 8 or 24 inches deep):). Life’s unfair, huh?:) You’d wonder after all what exactly men measure theirs for…. If they donlt have a clue what depth the opposite sex recepient is anyway….Dee bee dee bee deep…hatam I talking about here anyway!! See what loneliness can make you write???? Aww, man!!:) Funny to think of it in that light though. Why the measuring and not weighing? Everyone would then fight to weigh it at rest!:) "-What size of cups are you, Honey? -Oh, 5 pounds? How much do "you" weigh, stud mine? -Oh, about 2.5 ounces …and 3/8! I mean, 3/.8 more at rest! -Oh, pheww, I thought you meant the 2.5 ounces WAS at rest!!!! -Hahaha, no, not me, darling…They don’t call me the stud for nothing". ???? Pfffft. Chloe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> will not be the first endearing > feature to grab her attention. > Solo > dont.yo…@re.spam.me wrote in message > <36645a59.360…@news.freeserve.net>… >>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:29:24 +0800 Leighton Shan <borla…@mpx.com.au> >>said: >>> I know what one should look like and this is >>>about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in >>>its largest state. >>I saw somewhere that that’s about average. I don’t want to sound like >>I’m boasting or anything, but mine is 8" long. And I’m a 29 year old >>virgin. Make of THAT what you will. Just remember that before she sees >>your knob, the girl’s got to see the rest of you, so I’d concentrate >>on that if I were you.

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G’day. I have had a hopeless dilema for years which I have tried to ignore but it’s now getting too late. I’ve tried to work thru these issues before but couldn’t work it out for myself, and feel extremely uncomfortable discussing it with family or friends, so the relative distance of the net is my only hope. This is long and boring I suppose but I’m desperate, so anyone flaming me can go ahead. I’m a 19 year old bloke, intelligent,handsome, have a reasonable body, and am a complete virgin(i.e. NO sexual experience of any kind. I’ve never so much as held hands with a girl). Basically, I’m mind meltingly insecure with girls, and always have been. I can’t even make small talk effectively , ‘cos I’m constantly monitoring my own behaviour. I can’t be amusing or be friendly or talk about anything meaningful. I can only spout meaningless and superficial drivel which makes me look stupid. I know the sort of thing I should be saying but I’m always so incomprehensibly nervous that I freeze up. And I know where the root(so to speak) of my problem is. In short(no pun) , I’m unbeleivably, record breakingly … ahem … small…. I mean, this must be some kind of record. I know what one should look like and this is about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in its largest state. I guess I subconsciously try to avoid ending up close with any girl. I’d go alright early in a relationship I suppose until shortly after when sex became an issue. I predict that I would last mere seconds and there would be no easy way around this. When I think about this I get depressed and figure "what’s the point in the first place" if I’m only going to embarass the hell out of myself, if any girl I go out with is going to think lowly of me, or joke with her friends about me. I also get stuck on the idea that if I went out with a girl and proved to be inadequate, she would go to someone else quickly, making me more insecure. As I don’t go out much, anyone I go out with will be someone I work with or go to uni with, so my situation would rapidly become known and come back to haunt me. I have always got stuck in these circles of depressing logic over and over throughout the years, endlessly, and now it seems that any chance at a normal sex life and relationships, the sort that one should encounter, have become a distant and unrealistic fantasy, one that can’t be reached. I’m 19 now and feel inferior for being so overwhelmingly inexperienced at this age. At least three times in my later(relatively) life I’ve fallen in love (at least that’s what I assume it was. It’s pretty hard to guage when you can barely communicate with the one you’d do anything to be with) .I dream about her and wake up feeling like ringing her, and feel happy and secure just thinking about her. Every time the situation has ended the same way. I notice her, and am indifferent at first. Then we communicate on some superficial level. Then, for some time, circumstances(work or school) demand we spend lots of time within talking distance. I do my best to be within interaction range as much as possible, but still manage to say very little to her(or at least find a way to express the endless array of things I’d love to talk to her about, ask her about, and generally get to know her on a personal level). Then, when the end is near, I desperately try to summon the guts to ask her out, to say just one thing meaningful before it’s too late. But my afforementined fears cut me off, and she then finds someone who WILL ask her out, and falls in love with HIM leaving me desperate and depressed. Either that or she moves to the other side of the continent, leaving me shocked at her sudden and permanent absence. I don’t even know how one goes about asking out someone out. I just have these vague ideas gleaned from crappy movies of guys clumsily asking her if she wants to ‘go catch a movie’ The most common method I’ve noticed that works with people I’ve known is drunken sex at a party resulting in an guilty and obligatory phonecall the next day which turns in to a relationship(happenned between my best mate and a girl I was stuck on. 4 years later they’re still together). I wouldn’t feel right following this path. Right now I’d love to go out with this girl from work, and I am fairly sure she wants me to ask her out but as usual I’ve hardly ever said a thing to her. There’s a work Xmas party on the beach within a week. I sense that unless I do something about it really soon I will once again witness the depressing situation that I am too familiar with. I have a strong but desperate will not to let this one slip. I would appreciate it infinitely if anyone could give me any advice at all, as I’m quite unable to figure this out by my own logic and experience. Thankyou — Leighton Shan borla…@mpx.com.au

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I wouldn’t admit this except to cheer you up & give you some perspective, but…. As a woman who’s "devirginized" several guys and who slept around too much before developing any self esteem…. Five & a half inches is completely normal, right there in that average zone. And if you get to the point where your female companion gets an eyeful of your dimensions, just do your best to keep her entertained and LET her know your nervous, and believe me, you’ll both get where you want to go. As for asking that gal out, just go do it. All she can do is say no, and she might say yes. Asking people out is never life’s most comfortable moment, but it does get easier with practice, so start practicing! Good luck and enjoy –Elizabeth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Leighton Shan wrote: > G’day. > I have had a hopeless dilema for years which I have tried to > ignore but it’s now getting too late. I’ve tried to work thru > these issues before but couldn’t work it out for myself, and feel > extremely uncomfortable discussing it with family or friends, so > the relative distance of the net is my only hope. This is long and > boring I suppose but I’m desperate, so anyone flaming me can > go ahead. > I’m a 19 year old bloke, intelligent,handsome, have a reasonable > body, and am a complete virgin(i.e. NO sexual experience of any kind. > I’ve never so much as held hands with a girl). Basically, I’m mind > meltingly insecure with girls, and always have been. I can’t even make > small talk effectively , ‘cos I’m constantly monitoring my > own behaviour. I can’t be amusing or be friendly or talk about > anything meaningful. I can only spout meaningless and > superficial drivel which makes me look stupid. I know the sort of thing > I should be saying but I’m always so incomprehensibly > nervous that I freeze up. And I know where the root(so to speak) of my > problem is. In short(no pun) , I’m unbeleivably, > record breakingly … ahem … small…. I mean, this must be some > kind of record. I know what one should look like and this is > about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in > its largest state. I guess I subconsciously try to avoid ending up > close with any girl. I’d go alright early in a relationship I suppose > until shortly after when sex became an issue. I predict that I would > last mere seconds and there would be no easy way around this. When I > think about this I get depressed and figure "what’s the point in the > first place" if I’m only going to embarass the hell out of myself, if > any girl I go out with is going to think lowly of me, or joke with her > friends about me. I also get stuck on the idea that if I went out with > a girl and proved to be inadequate, she would go to someone else > quickly, making me more insecure. As I don’t go out much, anyone I go > out with will be someone I work with or go to uni with, so my situation > would rapidly become known and come back to haunt me. I have always got > stuck in these circles of depressing logic over and over throughout the > years, endlessly, and now it seems that any chance at a normal sex > life and relationships, the sort that one should encounter, have become > a distant and unrealistic fantasy, one that can’t be reached. I’m 19 > now and feel inferior for being so overwhelmingly inexperienced at this > age. > At least three times in my later(relatively) life I’ve fallen in love > (at least that’s what I assume it was. It’s pretty hard to guage when > you can barely communicate with the one you’d do anything to be with) > .I dream about her and wake up feeling like ringing her, and feel > happy and secure just thinking about her. Every time the situation has > ended the same way. I notice her, and am indifferent at first. Then > we communicate on some superficial level. Then, for some time, > circumstances(work or school) demand we spend lots of time within > talking distance. I do my best to be within interaction range as much > as possible, but still manage to say very little to her(or at least > find a way to express the endless array of things I’d love to talk to > her about, ask her about, and generally get to know her on a personal > level). Then, when the end is near, I desperately try to summon the > guts to ask her out, to say just one thing meaningful before it’s too > late. But my afforementined fears cut me off, and she then finds > someone who WILL ask her out, and falls in love with HIM leaving me > desperate and depressed. Either that or she moves to the other side of > the continent, leaving me shocked at her sudden and permanent absence. > I don’t even know how one goes about asking out someone out. I just > have these vague ideas gleaned from crappy movies of guys clumsily > asking her if she wants to ‘go catch a movie’ > The most common method I’ve noticed that works with people I’ve known is > drunken sex at a party resulting in an guilty and obligatory phonecall > the next day which turns in to a relationship(happenned between my best > mate and a girl I was stuck on. 4 years later they’re still together). > I wouldn’t feel right following this path. > Right now I’d love to go out with this girl from work, and I am fairly > sure she wants me to ask her out but as usual I’ve hardly ever said a > thing to her. There’s a work Xmas party on the beach within a week. I > sense that unless I do something about it really soon I will once again > witness the depressing situation that I am too familiar with. I have a > strong but desperate will not to let this one slip. > I would appreciate it infinitely if anyone could give me any advice at > all, as I’m quite unable to figure this out by my own logic and > experience. > Thankyou > — > Leighton Shan > borla…@mpx.com.au

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Very ingenious name…I like it…does it work? My my my, male virgins just coming out of the woodwork…I think there have been 3 in the past week. You had a very good point, seeing as how the "knob" (I kind of like "love wand" myself ) will not be the first endearing feature to grab her attention. Solo dont.yo…@re.spam.me wrote in message

<36645a59.360…@news.freeserve.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:29:24 +0800 Leighton Shan <borla…@mpx.com.au> >said: >> I know what one should look like and this is >>about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in >>its largest state. >I saw somewhere that that’s about average. I don’t want to sound like >I’m boasting or anything, but mine is 8" long. And I’m a 29 year old >virgin. Make of THAT what you will. Just remember that before she sees >your knob, the girl’s got to see the rest of you, so I’d concentrate >on that if I were you.

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:29:24 +0800, Leighton Shan <borla…@mpx.com.au> wrote: >I’ve never so much as held hands with a girl). Basically, I’m mind >meltingly insecure with girls, and always have been. I can’t even make

Same here, but for me, it was because a bunch of them told me I’m ugly, and the rest of them don’t respect me. >small talk effectively , ‘cos I’m constantly monitoring my >own behaviour. I can’t be amusing or be friendly or talk about >anything meaningful. I can only spout meaningless and >superficial drivel which makes me look stupid. I know the sort of thing >I should be saying but I’m always so incomprehensibly

The interesting thing about meaningless drivel is that the originator seems to think what she’s talking about is of the utmost importance. Then when it’s your turn to talk about what you feel is of the utmost importance, she thinks it’s meaningless drivel. Trash. Treasure. I guess the only solution is to talk about whatever is important to you, and if they don’t think it’s important (or if what they’re talking about isn’t important to you), just blow them off. Oh, well, you could feign interest, of course, but that’s way harder to do than most people think (it’s usually very easy to tell when they’re faking). >nervous that I freeze up. And I know where the root(so to speak) of my >problem is. In short(no pun) , I’m unbeleivably, >record breakingly … ahem … small…. I mean, this must be some >kind of record. I know what one should look like and this is >about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in >its largest state.

Umm… stop taking pornos (and grunty sweaty male pissing contests) so seriously, dude. I’ve seen quite a few surveys, and 5-6" is always the average. >out with will be someone I work with or go to uni with, so my situation >would rapidly become known and come back to haunt me. I have always got

I know you’re very conscious of your "size," but most women won’t care how big you are as long as you can make ‘em cum, and that feat can be accomplished sans insertion. >a distant and unrealistic fantasy, one that can’t be reached. I’m 19 >now and feel inferior for being so overwhelmingly inexperienced at this >age.

You might consider checking out some sex therapy books. >happy and secure just thinking about her. Every time the situation has >ended the same way. I notice her, and am indifferent at first. Then >we communicate on some superficial level. Then, for some time, >circumstances(work or school) demand we spend lots of time within >talking distance. I do my best to be within interaction range as much >as possible, but still manage to say very little to her(or at least >find a way to express the endless array of things I’d love to talk to >her about, ask her about, and generally get to know her on a personal >level). Then, when the end is near, I desperately try to summon the >guts to ask her out, to say just one thing meaningful before it’s too >late. But my afforementined fears cut me off, and she then finds >someone who WILL ask her out, and falls in love with HIM leaving me >desperate and depressed.

I had to quote the whole thing since that’s the story of my life. > Right now I’d love to go out with this girl from work, and I am fairly >sure she wants me to ask her out but as usual I’ve hardly ever said a >thing to her.

I do that too. I don’t think women do it, though. By and large I’ve found women stick to the mainstream in EVERYTHING, including the proverbial "good man." You know, the handsome jerk who pulls in seven figures a year and spends it all on her. Based on EVERYTHING I’ve EVER heard from and about women, they quite simply DO NOT fall for normal guys. At least, not without lots of alcohol, as you alluded to earlier. >There’s a work Xmas party on the beach within a week. I >sense that unless I do something about it really soon I will once again >witness the depressing situation that I am too familiar with. I have a >strong but desperate will not to let this one slip.

I’m in a pretty similar situation myself. There’s a girl I want to ask out in one of my classes, and I have only 7 days remaining to do so. Finding the right situation is SO difficult. That is, until 3 hours later when you’re replaying your day and finally realize how you could have made opportunities out of misfortune. I tell ya what, the guy who invents "saved games" for real life will be a fucking trillionaire. (Which doesn’t mean anything since everyone would cheat the stock market and lottery with it and money would become worthless.) >I would appreciate it infinitely if anyone could give me any advice at >all, as I’m quite unable to figure this out by my own logic and >experience.

Like I said, your size is fine. The "big secret" to sex is just spending lots of time focusing on her needs. Us guys can be up and in and out and down in around three minutes. It simply takes longer for her. I think some guy was saying once that men are like microwave ovens and women are like crockpots in this area.

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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:29:24 +0800 Leighton Shan <borla…@mpx.com.au> said: > I know what one should look like and this is >about one tenth as big as it should be. It’s about 14cm (5.5 ")long in >its largest state.

I saw somewhere that that’s about average. I don’t want to sound like I’m boasting or anything, but mine is 8" long. And I’m a 29 year old virgin. Make of THAT what you will. Just remember that before she sees your knob, the girl’s got to see the rest of you, so I’d concentrate on that if I were you.

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This is the first time I have met someone who shares my physo..phyol..ideas <G> I believe respect some one until they lose it. Then they have to climb a mountain to get it back. I use to trust the same way but I’m running out of healthy skin. I keep getting burned. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Solo wrote: > Hi Bill, > I’m so glad you clarified these points. > Respect is a two way street and I think it should be granted until someone > does something to revoke it. After that, respect is earned.

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Bill wrote: > I can’t let this one go by either. I was a virgin until I was 21. Women IMO > would rather have a man who gives respect than multiple orgasms. You grow with > each other explore one an other. If a women is turned off by a "Not so great > time between the sheets" She’s not worth your respect. First time for me was > great I loved her. Could never understand how someone looks for one night > stands. I tried it and felt empty, cheap and dirty. Don’t push it it will come. > (no pun intended) > Bill

I can’t let this one go either. If you feel cheap and dirty after a one night stand, that’s conditioning IMO. If you feel withdrawn or bereaved that’s the risk you knowingly undertook. If you walk away from someone’s bed thinking it was a one night stand, then you’ve gone half way to making it into one. I don’t see how you can start a relationship unless you begin with a one night stand. If a man said to me "let’s get to know each other before we have sex" I would feel he already had quite a few misgivings about me as a person. I’d then feel wary of him as if he was expecting something of me I can’t give to anyone. It’s very unlikely he would get to know me. I always play things by ear. The main relationships I’ve had started off with one night stands. I’m still in contact with these men and enjoy a good solid friendship. We still care about each other. The one who wanted to "get to know me first" – I can hardly say hello to him. I do get a bit riled when I hear people say "if ……… dah dah dah" = "she/he’s not worthy of your respect" "if ………dah dah dah" = "this person isn’t worth bothering with" It always sounds so defensive. Life is so short, safe sex is so safe, love remains indefinable.

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LOL, LOL, LOL Solo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -eliza wrote in message <366330E2….@lizdan.demon.co.uk>… >obl…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >> I almost forgot! There’s also the technique suggested by the writer Anthony >> Burgess: it consists of simply repeating the chemical formula for monosodium >> glutamate over and over. For anyone interested, the formula is: >> HOOC (CH2) 2CH (NH2) COONa >> As you can see, it’s possible to get quite a nice rhythm out of that. HOOC >> cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha > COONA. ><chorus snipped> >> HOOC cha-cha COONA. >> HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC >> cha-cha >> COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha >> COONA. >Another useful method to delay ejaculation is the search for condoms in >pitch darkness. This is usually done by the female partner; once the >snoring reaches a regular timbre, she knows it’s safe to get back into >bed.

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eliza wrote in message <366334E8.7…@lizdan.demon.co.uk>… >It’s all very personal. Mind you, Solo did say poor "young’ woman. >I personally as a mature type of sort don’t mind a bit of gaucheness. I >find it all a bit slick and gynaecological if someone knows exactly >where to go on the first occasion.

Yes, well, we shouldn’t get to into personal preferences here should we? ) Are the men really ready for us to talk so openly about this??? Okay, …well, I kind of like it if he’s able to navigate his way in the dark…not much in for blundering…a little blushing okay…a little bit shocked, okay…I do get your point though…I’m not some automatic doll he can just wind up the same way he’s wound up those other gynecological babes. ). There are personal differences…asking is nice, very nice…but actually I usually keep him pretty well informed with…"that’s nice," "that feels good," or "keep doing that," or other more suggestive affirmations…so to speak. And, sometimes I even tell him where I am…I’m at an "8" on my way up the mountain, or maybe only a "2" so then he knows he needs to change tactics. >Another tip is (again personal) don’t try everything in one session. You >know how ice-skaters sometimes do those showy routines where they try to >fit every possible twirl and leap into two minutes of Rimskykorsakov. >And end up flat on their face.

Yes, my girlfriend has complained about this…a guy using a vibrator the first time…really turned her off. Although I have to admit that I like skating…twirls, leaps…the more twirls and leaps the better actually…one can always skate to a different arrangement or at a different rink. Personal preferences…but I know what you mean…a guy shows up with a knapsack of toys ….yup, that’s a bit scary the first time. >I’ve never minded (that’s an understatement) if a man has actually asked >me what I like or want.

Well if he doesn’t, then is that really respect? Smiles, Solo

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Hi Bill, I’m so glad you clarified these points. Respect is a two way street and I think it should be granted until someone does something to revoke it. After that, respect is earned. Bill wrote in message <36629F14.E6A2A…@albedo.net>… > Just because it’s the nineties I’m suppose to respect women? Respect is a >two way street. I’m going to try to clarify my statement. I meant if a man >performed poorly under the sheets and was put down because of it she is not >worthy of his respect.

I wholeheartedly agree…I cannot think of anything more debasing to a man than to be put down for his sexual performance…it’s a tender issue to the extreme. I think that if a man performs poorly that there is indeed a reason and if the woman cares enough she should care enough to address the issue…otherwise politely say no thankyou for further contact. > I never mentioned rough though?????

No, you never mentioned rough. For Leighton…some times I think men are rough without realizing they are rough. For a man everything is external…pretty well…a women’s vaginal mucosa is just that…mucosa… a mucous membrane (like the inside of your nose )…it’s a little bit more delicate than external tissue….I think beginners can sometimes forget that what can feel fine on one part of your body can be rough on another part of your body. I hope this clarifies where I was getting at with "rough." As for violence, well that is another whole issue, If either partner is >rough it’s cause for concern.

Absolutely, it is good to hear you say this…men have their delicate parts as well. >Bill

Thanks again for clarifying…sorry if I threw you off about the rough part. Smiles, Solo

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Solo wrote: > All young men ought to have a good overview of sexual anatomy before diving > in on some poor young woman and experimenting. Rule #1 Don’t go straight > for the bullseye…you are climbing a mountain…not dive bombing peak. > "Yield, it is more fun." Think of sex as a 10k mountain hike…you have to > slow down to her speed if you want to get to the top together.:-)

It’s all very personal. Mind you, Solo did say poor "young’ woman. I personally as a mature type of sort don’t mind a bit of gaucheness. I find it all a bit slick and gynaecological if someone knows exactly where to go on the first occasion. Another tip is (again personal) don’t try everything in one session. You know how ice-skaters sometimes do those showy routines where they try to fit every possible twirl and leap into two minutes of Rimskykorsakov. And end up flat on their face. I’ve never minded (that’s an understatement) if a man has actually asked me what I like or want.

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I can’t let this one go by either. I was a virgin until I was 21. Women IMO would rather have a man who gives respect than multiple orgasms. You grow with each other explore one an other. If a women is turned off by a "Not so great time between the sheets" She’s not worth your respect. First time for me was great I loved her. Could never understand how someone looks for one night stands. I tried it and felt empty, cheap and dirty. Don’t push it it will come. (no pun intended) Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Solo wrote:

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Women expect respect…afterall it is the 90’s…if that’s too demanding, oh well. If a woman is aware that she is capable of multiple orgasms…I strongly suggest a man not neglect this point. First times are just that, first times…I don’t think anyone is expecting you are going to be orbiting the moon…although when it happens it’s quite nice. However, if a man is rough with a woman beneath the sheets, then she has cause to be concerned. Solo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bill wrote in message <36628B07.AA7CD…@albedo.net>… > I can’t let this one go by either. I was a virgin until I was 21. Women IMO >would rather have a man who gives respect than multiple orgasms. You grow with >each other explore one an other. If a women is turned off by a "Not so great >time between the sheets" She’s not worth your respect. First time for me was >great I loved her. Could never understand how someone looks for one night >stands. I tried it and felt empty, cheap and dirty. Don’t push it it will come. >(no pun intended) >Bill >Solo wrote:

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Just because it’s the nineties I’m suppose to respect women? Respect is a two way street. I’m going to try to clarify my statement. I meant if a man performed poorly under the sheets and was put down because of it she is not worthy of his respect. I never mentioned rough though????? If either partner is rough it’s cause for concern. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Solo wrote: > Women expect respect…afterall it is the 90’s…if that’s too demanding, oh > well. If a woman is aware that she is capable of multiple orgasms…I > strongly suggest a man not neglect this point. > First times are just that, first times…I don’t think anyone is expecting > you are going to be orbiting the moon…although when it happens it’s quite > nice. However, if a man is rough with a woman beneath the sheets, then she > has cause to be concerned. > Solo > Bill wrote in message <36628B07.AA7CD…@albedo.net>… > > I can’t let this one go by either. I was a virgin until I was 21. Women > IMO > >would rather have a man who gives respect than multiple orgasms. You grow > with > >each other explore one an other. If a women is turned off by a "Not so > great > >time between the sheets" She’s not worth your respect. First time for me > was > >great I loved her. Could never understand how someone looks for one night > >stands. I tried it and felt empty, cheap and dirty. Don’t push it it will > come. > >(no pun intended) > >Bill > >Solo wrote:

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In article <36625b1…@news.vphos.net>, "Solo" <sm_pe…@yahoo.com> wrote: > squeezing the base of your penis, and thinking of unpleasant thoughts.

I read somewhere that the standard mental distractor among the male American population at such times was basketball. Since I find the thought of any kind of sport unpleasant, I tried that for a time. Now I can’t watch a match without getting uncomfortably aroused. I see all sorts of symbolic connotations in that basket that other people don’t seem to. So I then tried the Athanasian Creed in Latin. That seemed to work better. Others I have heard of include solving quadratic equations, tracing the line of English monarchs back to the Stuarts, or adding up your VISA card bill. O’B ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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I almost forgot! There’s also the technique suggested by the writer Anthony Burgess: it consists of simply repeating the chemical formula for monosodium glutamate over and over. For anyone interested, the formula is: HOOC (CH2) 2CH (NH2) COONa As you can see, it’s possible to get quite a nice rhythm out of that. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA… ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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(obl…@my-dejanews.com) writes: > In article <36625b1…@news.vphos.net>, > "Solo" <sm_pe…@yahoo.com> wrote: >> squeezing the base of your penis, and thinking of unpleasant thoughts.

OR..Forget thechniques, put your notebook down, use both hands, sqeeze all the way:) after you turn off he stroboscipic lights, blow the candles and remove that "Romantic evenings of Lowwwve" cd and throw a pail of water in the fireplace, and just enjoy the dang thing, remembering that it does come (no pun:)) with integrated batteries that self recharge within minutes or hours, depending on how many times a day you are at, and at how many years you are at too. Stir well, and repeat for desired quantity. OR even more simple: to cool down a few minutes, put that PlayBoy away, or better: read the articles! What did you guys think they were there for??? Intellect??;-):) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I read somewhere that the standard mental distractor among the male American > population at such times was basketball. Since I find the thought of any kind > of sport unpleasant, I tried that for a time. Now I can’t watch a match > without getting uncomfortably aroused. I see all sorts of symbolic > connotations in that basket that other people don’t seem to. So I then tried > the Athanasian Creed in Latin. That seemed to work better. Others I have > heard of include solving quadratic equations, tracing the line of English > monarchs back to the Stuarts, or adding up your VISA card bill. > O’B > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -obl…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I almost forgot! There’s also the technique suggested by the writer Anthony > Burgess: it consists of simply repeating the chemical formula for monosodium > glutamate over and over. For anyone interested, the formula is: > HOOC (CH2) 2CH (NH2) COONa > As you can see, it’s possible to get quite a nice rhythm out of that. HOOC > cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha > COONA. <chorus snipped> > HOOC cha-cha COONA. > HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC > cha-cha > COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha COONA. HOOC cha-cha > COONA.

Another useful method to delay ejaculation is the search for condoms in pitch darkness. This is usually done by the female partner; once the snoring reaches a regular timbre, she knows it’s safe to get back into bed.

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Hi Leighton: I just can’t possibly let this one go by. Well, as a health professional I guess I can say that textbook erected penises are 5-7" long on average. Consequently, you are well within the average range and need not worry. Contrary to the male ego which seemingly equates bigger always as better…5-7" is also the average length of a woman’s vagina…so anything longer is not going to fit…less satisfying for the man…and with deep penetration…if a man actually hits a womans cervix he can cause sharp pain. You are 19, you need not worry about these things…but since you are I shall take the opportunity to tell you about a few other important matters other than size. "It’s not how deep you fish…it is how you wiggle your worm." "It is not the size of the wand, it is the magic of the magician." Regarding premature ejaculation…stopping the stimulus…ie: withdrawing, squeezing the base of your penis, and thinking of unpleasant thoughts. You’re youthful…you may find that after 10 mins you are ready to go again.:-) Don’t roll over and go to sleep…if you premature ejaculate. Now for the really important stuff…. Your equipment does not end with that 5.5" tool of yours. A woman can be stimulated to full orgasm with your hands, and/ or your mouth. In fact, I think oral sex ought to be at least 25% of your repertoire (IMO…perhaps more )…so darling, …how long is your tongue? ) I’m just teasing you, in a friendly way. All young men ought to have a good overview of sexual anatomy before diving in on some poor young woman and experimenting. Rule #1 Don’t go straight for the bullseye…you are climbing a mountain…not dive bombing peak. "Yield, it is more fun." Think of sex as a 10k mountain hike…you have to slow down to her speed if you want to get to the top together.:-) I’m not worried about you, because you care enough to investigate. Oh the joys of youth yet to be discovered…. Smiles, Solo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Leighton Shan wrote in message <36616853.695E2…@mpx.com.au>…

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