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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are libraries full of evidence for Darwin’s Theory and there is no evidence for the story of creation. Take your pick as to which is true. We have, Darwin’s theory was rejected decades ago having been replaced by several suceeding theories of evolution likewise rejected. The latest is Punctuated Equilibrium, with is however, closer to Creation theory than any previous theory of evolution. We have no doubt that then PE is replaced by a better hypothesis of evolution, it will be even closer to Creation theory. Please provide peer-reviewed studies of your assertions. Tee hee hee, fundie evolutionists mantra # 55 demand a journal reviewed by a self admiration society of evolutionists. I suppose were they alive in the late 1800’s our opponents would have rejected Darwin’s theory, since he published it in a book, not a peer-reviewed journal.
Darwin and Wallace presented their paper before the Linnean Society, a leading scientific forum for discussions on biological subjects. You can read the original presentation here. As read before the Linnean Society July 1st ,1858 and published in their proceedings Vol 3 1858. pp 45-62. http://tinyurl.com/pfn6
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are libraries full of evidence for Darwin’s Theory and there is no evidence for the story of creation. Take your pick as to which is true. We have, Darwin’s theory was rejected decades ago having been replaced by several suceeding theories of evolution likewise rejected. The latest is Punctuated Equilibrium, with is however, closer to Creation theory than any previous theory of evolution. We have no doubt that then PE is replaced by a better hypothesis of evolution, it will be even closer to Creation theory. Please provide peer-reviewed studies of your assertions. Tee hee hee, fundie evolutionists mantra # 55 demand a journal reviewed by a self admiration society of evolutionists.
I suppose were they alive in the late 1800’s our opponents would have rejected Darwin’s theory, since he published it in a book, not a peer-reviewed journal.
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In alt.talk.creationism, Alan Wostenberg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are libraries full of evidence for Darwin’s Theory and there is no evidence for the story of creation. Take your pick as to which is true. We have, Darwin’s theory was rejected decades ago having been replaced by several suceeding theories of evolution likewise rejected. The latest is Punctuated Equilibrium, with is however, closer to Creation theory than any previous theory of evolution. We have no doubt that then PE is replaced by a better hypothesis of evolution, it will be even closer to Creation theory. Please provide peer-reviewed studies of your assertions. Tee hee hee, fundie evolutionists mantra # 55 demand a journal reviewed by a self admiration society of evolutionists. I suppose were they alive in the late 1800’s our opponents would have rejected Darwin’s theory, since he published it in a book, not a peer-reviewed journal.
He presented it first at a professional meeting, which would still be acceptable today.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip What a joke, did you go to shcool to learn humour? Darwins theory, slow gradual change from tomatoe plant to giraffe was rejected by the evidence decades ago. That is not a part of the theory, as you well know. Are you trying to mislead people on purpose? Tee hee hee, are you saying that tomatoe plants and giraffes do not have a common ancestor? Be careful not to embarrass yourself in front of the evolution Nazi’s.
You have obviously conflated having a common ancestor with being in a line-of-descent.
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In alt.religion.christian I read this message from Alan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are libraries full of evidence for Darwin’s Theory and there is no evidence for the story of creation. Take your pick as to which is true. We have, Darwin’s theory was rejected decades ago having been replaced by several suceeding theories of evolution likewise rejected. The latest is Punctuated Equilibrium, with is however, closer to Creation theory than any previous theory of evolution. We have no doubt that then PE is replaced by a better hypothesis of evolution, it will be even closer to Creation theory. Please provide peer-reviewed studies of your assertions. Tee hee hee, fundie evolutionists mantra # 55 demand a journal reviewed by a self admiration society of evolutionists. I suppose were they alive in the late 1800’s our opponents would have rejected Darwin’s theory, since he published it in a book, not a peer-reviewed journal.
To the extent that peer review existed at the time Darwin’s work was subjected to peer review. Darwin sent copies around to the leading scientists of the time to get their response. Do you have another idea? Now do you have any comment regarding current peer-review? Do you object to the notion of submitting ideas to the people who should know something about the subject?
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[...] Please present your scientific evidence. Do humans and apes have a common ancestor? Please provide scientific evidence of your assertion. No scientific evidence that humans and apes have a common ancestor.
No scientific evidence that the Bible is true. See, I can play the assertion game just like you can; if you expect to be taken seriously, you had better be able to produce some hard evidence. Darwin’s theory of evolution is the most verified of any major scientific theory. What a joke, did you go to shcool to learn humour? Darwins theory, slow gradual change from tomatoe plant to giraffe was rejected by the evidence decades ago. That is not a part of the theory, as you well know. Are you trying to mislead people on purpose? Tee hee hee, are you saying that tomatoe plants and giraffes do not have a common ancestor? Be careful not to embarrass yourself in front of the evolution Nazi’s.
That’s a rather ironic statement considering the *real* Nazis wore belt buckles that said "God With Us" and justified their racism by public appeals to Christianity. Here’s an example of that: "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited." –Adolf Hitler, from a speech delivered April 12, 1922 and published in "My New Order"; full text online at http://www.hitler.org/speeches/04-12-22.html [...] Please provide peer-reviewed studies of your assertions. Tee hee hee, fundie evolutionists mantra # 55 demand a journal reviewed by a self admiration society of evolutionists.
At least evolutionary scientists, unlike creationists, don’t sign sworn statements promising that they will ignore any evidence that interferes with their predetermined faith conclusion. "By definition, no apparent, perceived, or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record." –from http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about/faith.asp the time god and the chance god are dying, along with their magical primordial fairy tale pool where non living matter arranges itself in complex patterns and begins to live by magical fairy dust. If one believes in that mythology, he is not very scientific. You have posted a dozen times this AM. You have yet to provide any scientific evidence for any of your assertions. Please provide that scientific evidence now. Tee hee hee, if someone would post some scientific evidence that tomatoe plants and giraffes have a common ancestor, we could use the same evidence to conclude that they might have a common creator.
False. One kind of evidence that points to common descent and *away* from common design is the existence of shared genetic errors – scrambled bits of DNA that do not serve a protein-creating function. There is no creationist explanation for why unrelated species would independently accumulate the exact same errors at the exact same locations in their genome; of course, the evolutionary explanation is that these errors occurred in the common ancestor of those species and were inherited by all the daughter species in its line of descent. Here are some shared genetic errors within the artiodactyl (hoofed mammal) family: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/nikaido.html And I know you don’t *really* care about tomato plants or giraffes, so let’s get to the heart of the matter – here are some genetic errors shared between humans, apes and monkeys: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html#retroviruses — "We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001 to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org –Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843 quoted in Carl Sagan’s _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0×5C66F737
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snip Actually the odds are one to one. Unless you believe in panspermia like Hoyle did. Evolution is a fact. It is not a fact that tomatoe plants and giraffes have a common ancestor.
In fact their is strong evidence that man and the banana have a coomon ancestor due to the fact we share many of the same genes. We have 50 percent of the same genes a banana has. Darwin’s theory of evolution is the most verified of any major scientific theory. What a joke, did you go to shcool to learn humour? Darwins theory, slow gradual change from tomatoe plant to giraffe was rejected by the evidence decades ago.
Not according to 30,000 scientist in related biological fields. At least 99 percent of all biologist believe Darwin’s theory to be correct. I doubt it, but then you haven’t proven it either.
Project steve says there are 30,000 scientist who believe in evolution and thats just a start. Try finding 300 creation biologist or related fields. And don’t give me names of mechanical engineers or lawyers, etc. http://www.ncseweb.org/article.asp?category=18 There are libraries full of evidence for Darwin’s Theory and there is no evidence for the story of creation. Take your pick as to which is true. We have, Darwin’s theory was rejected decades ago having been replaced by several suceeding theories of evolution likewise rejected. The latest is Punctuated Equilibrium, with is however, closer to Creation theory than any previous theory of evolution. We have no doubt that then PE is replaced by a better hypothesis of evolution, it will be even closer to Creation theory.
Punk eek is a form of dawinian evolution and has nothing to do with creation. the time god and the chance god are dying, along with their magical primordial fairy tale pool where non living matter arranges itself in complex patterns and begins to live by magical fairy dust. If one believes in that mythology, he is not very scientific.
The study of evolution is not mythology it’s science. The creation story is however strictly myth with no supporting evidence that it has any basis in fact. Lane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Michael People who don
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