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admin — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:00:00 +0000

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Ironic — lonely / not lonely

admin — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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It is amazing how things turn out — the people of this ng are wonderful. Thank you for all your help and feedback. I’ve saved your responses to reply to later. I have been thinking of loneliness – and how it applies when one is suddenly *not* lonely. I have had the fortune to meet people here and really enjoy the correspondence. As a result, my mood has perked up, and oddly has perked up my social life a bit. In the past week, 4 of the days have been with friends — I am just totally not used to not being alone. I would attribute this to the good people here, I have genuinely felt *less* depressed – not depressed at all, actually. This is the first time in many months that I have had such close interaction with anyone. Perhaps this is showing in my mood irl. Two female friends that I have just resumed getting to know have complimented me on my personality. This is truly a first, and perhaps I am radiating happiness for the first time.. I don’t know what it is. I don’t really know what to do — I am so un-used to not having tons of free time to mope and beat myself down… I just want to thank you all for your support.

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It warms my heart to hear you say that. Focus on the good things, that is always a good way of staying cheery — Charm "nonessential" wrote in message

news:1130010111.739503.191320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It is amazing how things turn out — the people of this ng are > wonderful. Thank you for all your help and feedback. I’ve saved your > responses to reply to later. > I have been thinking of loneliness – and how it applies when one is > suddenly *not* lonely. I have had the fortune to meet people here and > really enjoy the correspondence. > As a result, my mood has perked up, and oddly has perked up my social > life a bit. In the past week, 4 of the days have been with friends — > I am just totally not used to not being alone. > I would attribute this to the good people here, I have genuinely felt > *less* depressed – not depressed at all, actually. This is the first > time in many months that I have had such close interaction with anyone. > Perhaps this is showing in my mood irl. Two female friends that I > have just resumed getting to know have complimented me on my > personality. This is truly a first, and perhaps I am radiating > happiness for the first time.. I don’t know what it is. I don’t really > know what to do — I am so un-used to not having tons of free time to > mope and beat myself down… I just want to thank you all for your > support.

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Charm wrote: > It warms my heart to hear you say that. > Focus on the good things, that is always a good way of staying cheery > — > Charm

It’s true – a mode of thinking I haven’t much practice with yet but it helps when you are around people you like and trust. I have been helped somewhat by getting out of the house a bit more and making some concrete plans for each day. — nonessential

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In article <1130016585.757701.199…@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, dawdler_tw…@yahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Charm wrote: >> It warms my heart to hear you say that. >> Focus on the good things, that is always a good way of staying cheery >> — >> Charm >It’s true – a mode of thinking I haven’t much practice with yet but it >helps when you are around people you like and trust. I have been >helped somewhat by getting out of the house a bit more and making some >concrete plans for each day. >– >nonessential

The best thing we can give to the world and to others, is ourself. And that is appreciated in kind. Good company. Harvey

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Should you be here if your happy ??

admin — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I’m asking because I am happy at the moment. Everything is cool. Work is better, I feel very happy and content. Last week I went out with my female friend to see War of the Worlds. I had such a great time. I felt so comfortable and relaxed. I feel there is nothing to stop me going out with a real girlfriend and having a good time. Yet I come on here. The thing is I can’t go 2 or 3 days without coming on here and having a quick read. The question is : Should I (or any other happy person) still read this newsgroup ?

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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > The question is : Should I (or any other happy person) still read this > newsgroup ?

I find the negativity of certain posters to be especially draining at times (and sometimes I have to abstain from reading their posts* or stay away for a while, so while I don’t believe one "shouldn’t" come back here, it might be beneficial for you to stay away at times. *While any attacks on my character or whatever have no effect on my self image etc., I can become very dejected when I notice how lost some people here are. – Michaela

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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > I’m asking because I am happy at the moment. Everything is cool. > Work is better, I feel very happy and content. Last week I went out > with my female friend to see War of the Worlds. I had such a great > time. I felt so comfortable and relaxed. I feel there is nothing to > stop me going out with a real girlfriend and having a good time. > Yet I come on here. The thing is I can’t go 2 or 3 days without coming > on here and having a quick read. > The question is : Should I (or any other happy person) still read this > newsgroup ?

So that’s what you did with your Saturday night off! Awesome! rgds, lisa

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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote in news:1121770307.137648.243300 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > I’m asking because I am happy at the moment. Everything is cool. > Work is better, I feel very happy and content. Last week I went out > with my female friend to see War of the Worlds. I had such a great > time. I felt so comfortable and relaxed. I feel there is nothing to > stop me going out with a real girlfriend and having a good time. > Yet I come on here. The thing is I can’t go 2 or 3 days without coming > on here and having a quick read. > The question is : Should I (or any other happy person) still read this > newsgroup ?

I don’t see any problem with it, as long as coming here doesn’t rob you of that happiness.

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<> It’s was a fantastic film as well. In my top 10 of all time. I would recommend it to everyone.

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>The question is : Should I (or any other happy >person) still read this newsgroup ?

Yes, so long as reading it doesn’t depress you.

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Reading this group tends to get me down, unless I’m already down, in which case it doesn’t have much effect; the reason being that as long as I’m able to ignore my loneliness and lack of a girlfriend, I’m able to lead a relatively bearable (I won’t say happy) life. But as soon as I start dwelling on the utterly miserable state of my social life, my happiness takes a steep plunge. Example – yesterday I was driving home in relatively high spirits, when I heard those two guys in the radio making fun of guys who never get dates. Boom. My buyoant mood totally collapsed, and remained low for the entire evening. Others’ mileage may vary.

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Gray Loser wrote: > Reading this group tends to get me down, unless I’m already down, in > which case it doesn’t have much effect; the reason being that as long > as I’m able to ignore my loneliness and lack of a girlfriend, I’m able > to lead a relatively bearable (I won’t say happy) life. But as soon > as I start dwelling on the utterly miserable state of my social life, > my happiness takes a steep plunge. > Example – yesterday I was driving home in relatively high spirits, > when I heard those two guys in the radio making fun of guys who never > get dates. Boom. My buyoant mood totally collapsed, and remained > low for the entire evening. > Others’ mileage may vary.

One day I began to notice how I’d be in a really good/bad mood and big/small things seemed to just pass me by, but maybe suddenly a really small/big stupid/insignificant/mammoth event would become the centre of my attention and I’d give it the power to hi-jack my mood. And then I knew that there was something else going on. Isn’t it perhaps better to keep my power and make my own decisions on how I’m going to react/respond? Choice. – Michaela

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Yeah, why not?. Alcoholics attend weekly AA meetings even years after they’ve been rehabilitated. And there’s always something new to learn…if we could learn something here. Anyways if you’ve been here for a while, you’d end up missing us like it happened to me.

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Single women

admin — Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Troll wrote: > I was just browsing some cosmo forums and reading lots of posts by women who have the same problem: They had their wild years and now want to find "a lover, a friend, a companion", but free men of their age want just to fuck because they didn’t when they were younger. Poetic justice.

OK by me. Lemme at ‘em! I’m not fixated on sex despite not gettin’ any when I was younger, but I don’t believe that anyone can have too many friends or companions.

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>I was just browsing some cosmo forums and reading lots of posts by women >who have the same problem: They had their wild years and now want to find >"a lover, a friend, a companion", but free men of their age want just to >fuck because they didn’t when they were younger. Poetic justice.

there will never be enough "justice" for the pathologically resentful… h

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Funny, I was just reading a thread where men were getting tired of the evil of women.. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=2&topic=3&mess…

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>Funny to hear that from a homo skank who resents men for hurting her >pussy.

oooo…i’m so put down. your arrested development belongs to you ~ not to mankind. i’ll just wait for the right guy. there will never be a right girl for you. {sticking out pointed pink tongue} h

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helen wrote: > >I was just browsing some cosmo forums and reading lots of posts by > women > >who have the same problem: They had their wild years and now want to > find > >"a lover, a friend, a companion", but free men of their age want just > to > >fuck because they didn’t when they were younger. Poetic justice. > there will never be enough "justice" for the pathologically > resentful… > h

We resentful folk take it one day at a time. As long as our bitterness can be temporarily sated by one example of justice — we’re happy.

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Troll wrote: > I was just browsing some cosmo forums and reading

you read that shit? wow… literati! {snicker} h

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>Too bad the right guy for you has a slit between his legs.

{shrug} i’m flexible h

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>We resentful folk take it one day at a time. As long as our bitterness >can be temporarily sated by one example of justice — we’re happy.

you eat… the sewer doesn’t run through your street, people around you aren’t exploding, not being raped in prison… resentment over what? {pathos} h

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helen wrote: > >We resentful folk take it one day at a time. As long as our > bitterness > >can be temporarily sated by one example of justice — we’re happy. > you eat… > the sewer doesn’t run through your street, > people around you aren’t exploding, > not being raped in prison…

Sorry, I’m not a relativist about happiness. It doesn’t do jackshit for me to think about poor Iraqis (just like it doesn’t do jackshit for poor Iraqis to think about poor Sudanese). > resentment over what?

Loneliness, shyness, isolation, boredom.

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Troll wrote: > I was just browsing some cosmo forums and reading lots of posts by > women who have the same problem: They had their wild years and now > want to find "a lover, a friend, a companion", but free men of their > age want just to fuck because they didn’t when they were younger. > Poetic justice.

Exactly my case (31 -y-o). BTW, do you have a link to those Cosmo forums? -MArk

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"stockwiz" in news:dd82857d29427b1b564b2649b7be2c08@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=2&topic=3&messag > e=85839&mpage=&showdate=3/6/05

best snippage… "Tie a 20 dollar bill to your rear bumper and cruise slowly thru a trailer park near the end of the month. A 12 step help group for sex addicts. Dog pound. A cemetery. They

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admin — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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X-NoArchive: yes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you around? Got a question for ya. Suzanne Hi Suzanne! I’m around today, but I have only been here very sporadically over the last couple of months (or maybe it’s been longer). When things start getting stressful I have less energy to devote to the computer, housework, etc. But I am here now and was going to post a bit. I’ll check back today and tomorrow, but Saturday I leave for California to visit my family (IF my terrible cold has waned, if not, Sunday or Monday).

Ok - it can wait. I’ll get in touch with you at a later date. Have fun in CA!!! Suzanne — The charter is available at:

Ah m still here

admin — Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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In case you were wondering. But, since the ltr event – nearly all my loneliness has flown away! Should I still be in here? Maybe I should work myself into a froth about might-have-beens and missed opportunities, and dark reminicenses, so I can feel my life is crap again, instead of just un-interesting. Actually, I’d like to have an interesting life again. Unemployment has a lot to recommend it – at least I seemed to have some kind of "life" in those days. Ho hum. Ever feel like you got what you wanted, and then weren’t sure if you wanted it? Well, in case anyone was looking for them, here are some answers. 223 degrees celcius The blue one NO wait, the red one! Very deep. Wet Birds (I mean the feathered variety) Herring A good quality punch. Well, as always, Yereverluvvinmonster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Does someone know who that guy is….?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: > In case you were wondering. > But, since the ltr event – nearly all my loneliness has flown away! > Should I still be in here? > Maybe I should work myself into a froth about might-have-beens and missed > opportunities, and dark reminicenses, so I can feel my life is crap again, > instead of just un-interesting. Actually, I’d like to have an interesting > life again. Unemployment has a lot to recommend it – at least I seemed to > have some kind of "life" in those days. Ho hum. Ever feel like you got > what you wanted, and then weren’t sure if you wanted it? > Well, in case anyone was looking for them, here are some answers. > 223 degrees celcius > The blue one > NO wait, the red one! > Very deep. > Wet > Birds (I mean the feathered variety) > Herring > A good quality punch. > Well, as always, > Yereverluvvinmonster > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:25:39 GMT, Little Monster sayeth: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In case you were wondering. > But, since the ltr event – nearly all my loneliness has flown away! > Should I still be in here? > Maybe I should work myself into a froth about might-have-beens and missed > opportunities, and dark reminicenses, so I can feel my life is crap again, > instead of just un-interesting. Actually, I’d like to have an interesting > life again. Unemployment has a lot to recommend it – at least I seemed to > have some kind of "life" in those days. Ho hum. Ever feel like you got > what you wanted, and then weren’t sure if you wanted it? > Well, in case anyone was looking for them, here are some answers. > 223 degrees celcius > The blue one > NO wait, the red one! > Very deep. > Wet > Birds (I mean the feathered variety) > Herring > A good quality punch. > Well, as always, > Yereverluvvinmonster

cake football danger sinking horny garden pickled slap

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Little Monster wrote > In case you were wondering. > But, since the ltr event – nearly all my loneliness has flown away! > Should I still be in here? > Maybe I should work myself into a froth about might-have-beens and missed > opportunities, and dark reminicenses, so I can feel my life is crap again, > instead of just un-interesting. Actually, I’d like to have an interesting > life again. Unemployment has a lot to recommend it – at least I seemed to > have some kind of "life" in those days. Ho hum. Ever feel like you got > what you wanted, and then weren’t sure if you wanted it?

That seems to be the story of most of our lives. Seems to me it’s often the result of looking for happiness outside of ourselves. ’soon as we get it, we shift the goalposts. And it’s all part of the rollercoaster. > Well, in case anyone was looking for them, here are some answers. > 223 degrees celcius

I got me a nice brown colour now. > The blue one

That’ll look good with my safari suit. > NO wait, the red one!

O great, now I’ll have to brave the cold. > Very deep.

How did you manage to make me feel sexy right now? > Wet

Say no more. > Birds (I mean the feathered variety)

I can live with that. > Herring

Ok. Now you’ve done it. I can get back to work now… > A good quality punch.

Just what I was thinking. – Michaela – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, as always, > Yereverluvvinmonster

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Three's

admin — Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and slightly dysfuntional all day. In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my every little inattention as rejection. Humph. Funny thing is, this lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I still see you folks as my friends Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:33:19 +0000, the world was enlightented by poet, unto whom the words are attributed: > X-No-Archive: yes > In article pan.2004.11.24.20.12.29.89…@localhost.localdomain, Little > Monster at r…@localhost.localdomain wrote on 11/24/04 14:06: >> Funny thing is, this lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the >> loneliness away. But I still see you folks as my friends > no, you chased your own loneliness away. she just helped you find out how. > > good luck.

vrrry poetical. tnx Mnstreo — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: > They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry > they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: > In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my > left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and > slightly dysfuntional all day. > In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I > put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. > Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned > black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. > Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. > Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. > In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey.

In a bad fry day, it tends to always feel that way;-) > Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want > to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my > every little inattention as rejection.

Did you start the relating by giving her tons of attention all the time? Then it would seem ""normal"" that as you give les, she feels it as a loss of interest… Mayb a next time insist to keep some space for yourself, inner as well as surroundings… so it can grow closer in time, rather than the other feeling as if you lose interest inthem whne you go burn frying pans and set the flat on fire…?;-) Humph. Funny thing is, this > lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I > still see you folks as my friends

Nononono! ""Real men"" slay their friends when they find a lovely woman!;-) Best friend first, and female best friend before the male best friend who is fast next!;-) You are supposed to ditch us in a very mean, uncalled for, self servign deprecating way, of course telling us that *we* are self serving and that *we* would not care now that *you* have a gfriend you give all your caring time to:). You re supposed to be turning tables on us, twsiting words out of shape, distributing intentions of jalousy, hystery, heresy, and castration and so on!:);-) Try again!:):) > Monster > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:11:22 +0000, the world was enlightented by fuchsia groan, unto whom the words are attributed: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Little Monster’s post: >> They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry >> they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: >> In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my >> left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and >> slightly dysfuntional all day. >> In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I >> put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. >> Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned >> black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. >> Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. >> Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. >> In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. >> Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want >> to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my >> every little inattention as rejection. Humph. Funny thing is, this >> lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I >> still see you folks as my friends >> Monster > My threesome = Our cat dies, s-i-l runs off to Tieland, I get sacked. Not > bad going really… however I didn’t get to do them in a day like you.

Uummph! But my way, I can have a different 3 each day! > On the plus side I’m still bouncingly happy. Have you ever been to > http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/ ? It reminds me of hypercard graphics.

Will check that out in a bit… > Emma

Monstger — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:50 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: >> They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry >> they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: >> In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my >> left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and >> slightly dysfuntional all day. >> In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I >> put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. >> Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned >> black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. >> Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. >> Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. >> In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. > In a bad fry day, it tends to always feel that way;-)

So, that’s what it’s called? I think that is a good name. It rhymes too – bonus! >> Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want >> to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my >> every little inattention as rejection. > Did you start the relating by giving her tons of attention all the time? > Then it would seem ""normal"" that as you give les, she feels it as a loss > of interest…

Well, not really. Distance has kept the quantity of seeing each other pretty constant. I think I’ve been pretty constant in my attentiveness (or lack of it!) – I think (well, I know) it’s more a case of her making judgements on past experience, rather than present experience. But I’ve never tried to make her think she’s getting something I’m not. > Mayb a next time insist to keep some space for yourself, inner as well as > surroundings… so it can grow closer in time, rather than the other > feeling as if you lose interest inthem whne you go burn frying pans and > set the flat on fire…?;-)

Well, I have all week for that – or at least, the evenings. Our weekends are pretty intensive though. Trouble is, if I start saying I need time then – that really will look like rejection, since it’s our only time together! > Humph. Funny thing is, this >> lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I >> still see you folks as my friends > Nononono! ""Real men"" slay their friends when they find a lovely woman!;-) > Best friend first, and female best friend before the male best friend who > is fast next!;-)

No no no. I am obviously not a real man, and therefore a bogus entity. > You are supposed to ditch us in a very mean, uncalled for, self servign > deprecating way, of course telling us that *we* are self serving and that > *we* would not care now that *you* have a gfriend you give all your caring > time to:). You re supposed to be turning tables on us, twsiting words out > of shape, distributing intentions of jalousy, hystery, heresy, and > castration and so on!:);-)

Well, okay, I’ll try. *Hem* here goes: I think that was a very unkind thing for you to say, Chloe. There, how’d I do? > Try again!:):)

There are many things, my dear, I would like to try again Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Little Monster wrote:

: In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. : Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want : to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my : every little inattention as rejection. Humph. Why bother? If she wants to angst and look for things that aren’t there, don’t waste your time. There are millions of women in the world, this is just one, and one that is looking for reasons to find fault with you. That isn’t a good sign – want to know why? Because a woman that wants you will over-look pretty much every fault you can imagine… Married? Not a problem. Kids? Not a problem. Jerk? No problem, she’ll convince herself she can change you. The thing is that in those cases it’s usually because she doesn’t think she can have him. In this case, it’s pretty obvious you’re hers at her whim, so she isn’t interested. If there is any hope, the best thing to do is to stop seeing her – go out with other women. Enjoy life. If there is any hope she’ll come running – if not, don’t waste your time. Of course, I don’t expect you to believe any of that, or even listen but one day perhaps you’ll understand… : Funny thing is, this : lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. *sigh* You are looking for a woman to fix the faults that lie within. You are fixing your happiness on her being there. A lot of guys make that mistake and usually end up singing the "whoa is me" song. You should concentrate on being happy and having fun, and a funny thing will happen – people will want to be part of your circle of influence because you’re fun to be around. Don’t look to others to "chase the loneliness away" – look within, that is the only true solution… —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= East/West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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poet wrote: > X-No-Archive: yes > In article pan.2004.11.24.20.12.29.89…@localhost.localdomain, Little > Monster at r…@localhost.localdomain wrote on 11/24/04 14:06: >> Funny thing is, this lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the >> loneliness away. But I still see you folks as my friends > no, you chased your own loneliness away. she just helped you find out > how. > good luck.

Nice take. – Michaela

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:50 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore > Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: >> Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: >>> They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry >>> they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: >>> In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my >>> left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and >>> slightly dysfuntional all day. >>> In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I >>> put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. >>> Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned >>> black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. >>> Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. >>> Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. >>> In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. >> In a bad fry day, it tends to always feel that way;-) > So, that’s what it’s called? I think that is a good name. It rhymes too > – bonus!

Well, "Fry Day" is supposed to eb "Friday" actually:) The ay people fried fish, told it was in the name of their God, while their God;s son said it was wine and bread that they shoudl remember him with, not fish. But ayway. It was Fry Day cause the lords woudl go and take all the meat away form the cerfs (engl sp?), leaving them only with at best fish to fry…on Fry Day. But I din think of that when I wrote it, of course:) A bad fry day is just a bad fry day!:) >>> Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want >>> to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my >>> every little inattention as rejection. >> Did you start the relating by giving her tons of attention all the time? >> Then it would seem ""normal"" that as you give les, she feels it as a loss >> of interest… > Well, not really. Distance has kept the quantity of seeing each other > pretty constant. I think I’ve been pretty constant in my attentiveness > (or lack of it!) – I think (well, I know) it’s more a case of her making > judgements on past experience, rather than present experience. But I’ve > never tried to make her think she’s getting something I’m not.

…Not sure what you mean by the last sentnce, or rather, what is on your mind on those words…(?) Is she tryign to make you feel that way, you think…? > >> Mayb a next time insist to keep some space for yourself, inner as well as >> surroundings… so it can grow closer in time, rather than the other >> feeling as if you lose interest inthem whne you go burn frying pans and >> set the flat on fire…?;-) > Well, I have all week for that – or at least, the evenings. Our weekends > are pretty intensive though. Trouble is, if I start saying I need time > then – that really will look like rejection, since it’s our only time > together!

Yep. You maybe went too fst and now she expects a progress at the same constant cruise speed…. Can;t stand that myself, I must say, people that need me to be there by them, all the time, where I can not even be five ft away on the couch reading, say, cause they feel inceure and rejected…. I fell like they want to breath through my own nostrils and lungs then… To breath in my place. Hate that….That having to reassure them every 3 minutes…Besides, nthign kills love as much as the feeling the obligation to reassure them "or else"… >> Humph. Funny thing is, this >>> lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I >>> still see you folks as my friends >> Nononono! ""Real men"" slay their friends when they find a lovely woman!;-) >> Best friend first, and female best friend before the male best friend who >> is fast next!;-) > No no no. I am obviously not a real man, and therefore a bogus entity.

Just kidding on what real men are supposeto be like since someoen posted that real men shudl never talk on the phone:), o make it brief and non-communicative, say:) > >> You are supposed to ditch us in a very mean, uncalled for, self servign >> deprecating way, of course telling us that *we* are self serving and that >> *we* would not care now that *you* have a gfriend you give all your caring >> time to:). You re supposed to be turning tables on us, twsiting words out >> of shape, distributing intentions of jalousy, hystery, heresy, and >> castration and so on!:);-) > Well, okay, I’ll try. *Hem* here goes: > I think that was a very unkind thing for you to say, Chloe. > There, how’d I do?

Sigh….You got it all wrong!! You supposed to say that to HER!!!! LOL:) KIDDING of course about what """"real men"" (vs plastic ones??) would do;-) > >> Try again!:):) > There are many things, my dear, I would like to try again

Yeah yeah….. But to try hem again you must try them first, heh:) > Monster > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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>>> On the plus side I’m still bouncingly happy. Have you ever been to >>> http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/ ? It reminds me of hypercard graphics. > What’s all that about then? I press the arrow keys, and nothing happens! > Monster

It ought to make the guy fly about and kind of interact with odd events in the sky. Never mind it was just one of those silly things. Three bad things happened today too. But they were counterbalanced by three good things. :v)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster wrote: > They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european > ancestry they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: > In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of > my left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and > slightly dysfuntional all day. > In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. > I put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. > Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have > turned black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling > liquid in pan. Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan > burst into flames. Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt > frying pan. > In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly > flakey. Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. > Humph. I want to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems > she interprets my every little inattention as rejection. Humph. > Funny thing is, this lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the > loneliness away. But I still see you folks as my friends > Monster

It’s difficult when one person wants more than the other has to give. Hope you work things out, you Nmostre, you! – Michaela

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:23:41 +0000, the world was enlightented by Little Monster, unto whom the words are attributed: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:11:22 +0000, the world was enlightented by fuchsia > groan, unto whom the words are attributed: >> On the plus side I’m still bouncingly happy. Have you ever been to >> http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/ ? It reminds me of hypercard graphics.

What’s all that about then? I press the arrow keys, and nothing happens! Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Little Monster’s post: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> They say things go in three’s. Well, if you are of indo-european ancestry > they do anyway. So yesterdays tiresome threesome was: > In the morning, while setting off for work, I gave my funny bone, of my > left elbow, a Right Hard Bang, on a door-frame. Arm felt funny and > slightly dysfuntional all day. > In the evening, I set the frying pan on fire. That was interesting. I > put on the pan to heat up. Went and did ‘puter stuff. Forgot pan. > Remembered pan. Went in panic to rescue pan. Observed pan to have turned > black. Took pan off heat. Observed some kind of boiling liquid in pan. > Tilted pan so liquid covered blackness. Liquid in pan burst into flames. > Hmmm. Put fire out. Home now stinks of burnt frying pan. > In and among all this, I find my relationship is getting decidedly flakey. > Or, more flakey than it already was, as the case may be. Humph. I want > to be with her, I want to make this work, but it seems she interprets my > every little inattention as rejection. Humph. Funny thing is, this > lovely woman I’m seeing, she’s chased all the loneliness away. But I > still see you folks as my friends > Monster

My threesome = Our cat dies, s-i-l runs off to Tieland, I get sacked. Not bad going really… however I didn’t get to do them in a day like you. On the plus side I’m still bouncingly happy. Have you ever been to http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/ ? It reminds me of hypercard graphics. Emma

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How dark can it be?

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My dear family; A Irish poem.; but it is also like i feel. In the darkest confusion of my despair, anxiety, desperation, loneliness. Like clouds of thick yellow laden air. What a sham, What a joke, as you watch your dreams go up in smoke. This week i have to go to my psychologist, but what i have to do there? I don’t know, next week (monday) i will see Roel. I hope that he will know what to do. Love Diana. — The charter is available at:

Dont know what to do

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Darkfalz" (darkfalz.use…@gmail.com) writes: > "Lior Caspi" wrote in message > news:aa3e0507.0410141744.298c0d6c@posting.google.com… >> Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: >> I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in >> Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at >> the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have >> experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in >> California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live >> anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew >> english it was even harder on me. Then I moved to Florida. At the >> beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. >> After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang >> out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them. >> The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide >> but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and >> start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in >> high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think >> sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I >> sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making >> friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I >> dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really >> lost right now and would accept anything you got to say. > KEINE JUDEN! > DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE! > HEIL HITLER!

Falzie, for intelligence’s sake…… Don’t lower yourself to that! Hitler suffered from a venerial disease he contracted through sleeping around without taking precautions, proving stupid already. He contracted syphillis, known to give way to insanity if left untreated. He left it untreated and got completely insane. As he saw his weewee fall to pieces, he blamed his mommy for it, the jews, the boogie man, and the big bad insects he shouted were after him on the screen of his dementia and hallucinations: he had more and more of those, until he lived under constant hallucinations as he aged, where his staff tried all they could to hide his psychotic, mad, insane episodes. What could you possibly have in common with insanity?? With any STD you’d have caught sleeping around unprotected like a moron? Yes, condoms existed then too, btw. You are an intelligent virgin man, not an idiotic male slut. You have a working mind, right? Then remain smart. Don’t fall for that cheap type of desperate teen provocation that only the insane could find admirable or even valuable. You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap delirious wacko stuff. C —

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"Michaela" wrote in message … > One can learn from studying him.

Yeah — I learn a lot about *myself!* My own infantilism, insecurities, anger and hatred, etc., etc. I think he’s so fascinating because he is our darkest moments come true, a sort of reverse-Christ, so to speak. > The power of persuasion.

You know, the funny thing is — he was an artist! He really, really thought of himself as an artist. He was persuasive because he had that artistic sensibility…no philosopher or policy wonk ever persuaded the masses…he often compared the masses to women…. It’s really fascinating that David Bowie referred to Hitler as the world’s first rock star. > The power of suggestion. So good can perhaps come from > his bad. I think you imply this below too… not certain. ?

Well, I suppose "good" could be made out of anything, provided the creator is imaginative enough, has the resources, etc. (lemonade out of lemons…), but I didn’t mean that the Jewish Lobby in America is a good thing, despite it being one of Hitler’s lasting legacies, however unintentional — I mean, you can be against any goddamned thing in American politics, but it’s political suicide to utter one disparging word about Israel, no matter what the party. It’s ironic, since at the time Hitler was railing about Jewish control, anti-Semitism was not a social taboo. He made it one — so much so that even criticism is easily made out to be anti-Semitism. > Wait. AH stood up for what he believed in up til the end? > Didn’t he kill himself? I dunno. Perhaps I’m not thinking > straight. That sounds cowardly to me. If he’d really believed > then by killing himself, wasn’t he ‘giving up his cause’?

Oh, no — he so believed in a cataclysmic race war that when it was clear that Germany was losing, he personally ordered the country’s destruction as one obviously unworthy, through a sort of divine trial by combat, of inheriting the earth, leading the world, being the Master Race and so forth. He actually ordered a kind of Ragnarok (Norse Armageddon, one might say) given the way things turned out. So he was quite consistent. He really felt that only "the strong" deserved life. Since Germans have shown themselves weak, they deserved death. Of course, his own suicide had as much to do with fears of humiliation (the example of Mussolini’s end was heavy on his long-fevered mind) as with ideology, though it wasn’t simple "cowardice" that lead to his suicide. He simply saw no "point" to living any further. Remember, this is a guy who volunteered for the infantry, and volunteered for the dangerous job of running the mail around the trenches, who had dental work performed without anesthesia…I don’t think it was simple cowardice as such, no. > Stop splitting pears. (Just kidding, actually I have no > idea what you two were talking about here.)

Well, he was going on about Hitler and I was just making the point that results are what counts, whatever the guy says — and empowering "world Jewry" in the "moral superiority department" is poetic justice for his legacy. > Define "sane."

Well, as much as one perceives reality as it is, and not as one needs/wishes it to be, one is sane. Mental health has gradations like physical health. Most of us could/should be healthier, but that doesn’t mean we’re sick because we’re not at an optimal level of well-being. > I quite like the beetle.

LOL You know, I saw a Kubelwagon the other day in my nabe! It was in bad condition, but no doubt a Kubelwagon for sure! > I wish I could remember the movie’s name. I think the actor > was Danny Da Vito. He would take over businesses and ruin > many people’s lives (note to self).

Sigh…indeed! > You know how a sentence > "jumps out" at you and you never forget it (well, I often forget > the sentence itself, but I get the gist and then I don’t know how > to explain what I got from it to others)?

Yes, it happens on a few occasions to me. I wonder why this is, seeing how important it is to us. > Well, I’m gonna change the movie slightly because of my memory: > this one woman rose to the occasion and fought against DDV > for her hubby’s company and DDV said something [hopefully] > to the effect of "funny how the worst in me brings out the > best in others."

LOL — that’s just perfect right there! Ah, if only I had a sense of humor…how does one develop a sense of humor??? > HTMS

? > LOL > – Michaela

During basic training, every time we entered the DIFAC (dining facility) the first man in the platoon had to announce "Charlie Company Second Platoon ‘Commandos’ now entering the DIFAC! All hail the mighty ‘Commandos!’" to which the rest of us yelled "All hail!" One day a Drill Sergeant from another platoon just dead-panned "aw, hell" at the end of the ritual and people busted out laughing.

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Left Hand of Empire wrote: >> Hitler was a good man and he did some great things. > I don’t think he was a "good" man at all, though he was an interesting > character, in a very dark way.

One can learn from studying him. The power of persuasion. The power of suggestion. So good can perhaps come from his bad. I think you imply this below too… not certain. ? > As for his achievements, well, I think his most lasting legacy, > ironically enough, is to empower the very Jews he despised. As a > result of his lunacy, you can’t say one damned thing about Jews or the > State of Israel of the Jewish Lobby here in America, etc. >> Most of all, he stood up >> for what he believed in and saw it through until the end. > Yeah, well, that’s Dubya’s m.o., too.

Wait. AH stood up for what he believed in up til the end? Didn’t he kill himself? I dunno. Perhaps I’m not thinking straight. That sounds cowardly to me. If he’d really believed then by killing himself, wasn’t he ‘giving up his cause’? >> That’s what >> matters. > No, results are what matters. "An apple tree does not bear peaches" > and so forth.

Stop splitting pears. (Just kidding, actually I have no idea what you two were talking about here.) >> Yes he got sick and did some questionable things > He was mentally sick to begin with.

Define "sane." >> but nevertheless he did plenty of good as well. > Very little, depending on your definition of "good."

I quite like the beetle. >> Every hooknosed >> Jew ought to be gassed (and arabs along with them). >> Unfortunately the end >> results (ie. the power Jews now have and the state of Israel) >> weren’t so good but you can’t blame him for that. > What are you talking about? This is like GWB making Al Quaeda > stronger, however inadvertently.

I wish I could remember the movie’s name. I think the actor was Danny Da Vito. He would take over businesses and ruin many people’s lives (note to self). You know how a sentence "jumps out" at you and you never forget it (well, I often forget the sentence itself, but I get the gist and then I don’t know how to explain what I got from it to others)? Well, I’m gonna change the movie slightly because of my memory: this one woman rose to the occasion and fought against DDV for her hubby’s company and DDV said something [hopefully] to the effect of "funny how the worst in me brings out the best in others." HTMS > Incompetency is regarded as a crime in most militaries, too, you know? >> SIEG HEIL! > Oh hell.

LOL – Michaela

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Darkfalz wrote: > "OB" wrote in message > news:6ebc501c.0410172316.e011b8f@posting.google.com… >>"Darkfalz" wrote in message >>… >>>"Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote in message >>>news:ckteod$sqh$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >>>>You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap >>>>delirious wacko stuff. >>>Hitler was a good man and he did some great things. >>Sometimes "intelligence" is merely a self-awarded licence to be stupid. > "All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." > The Jews were triumphing. Hitler did something. > Something needs to be done again.

Why are the Jews evil? I realise this is a silly question to ask someone with so much hate to spare. I am just wondering if you apply the same convoluted logic to all classes of objects you despise… — .ske

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news:cl5cki$1mc$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Darkfalz wrote: >> "OB" wrote in message >> news:6ebc501c.0410172316.e011b8f@posting.google.com… >>>"Darkfalz" wrote in message >>>… >>>>"Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote in message >>>>news:ckteod$sqh$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >>>>>You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap >>>>>delirious wacko stuff. >>>>Hitler was a good man and he did some great things. >>>Sometimes "intelligence" is merely a self-awarded licence to be stupid. >> "All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." >> The Jews were triumphing. Hitler did something. >> Something needs to be done again. > Why are the Jews evil? > I realise this is a silly question

Yes it is. ACHTUNG JUDEN.

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"Darkfalz" wrote in message … > Hitler was a good man and he did some great things.

I don’t think he was a "good" man at all, though he was an interesting character, in a very dark way. As for his achievements, well, I think his most lasting legacy, ironically enough, is to empower the very Jews he despised. As a result of his lunacy, you can’t say one damned thing about Jews or the State of Israel of the Jewish Lobby here in America, etc. > Most of all, he stood up > for what he believed in and saw it through until the end.

Yeah, well, that’s Dubya’s m.o., too. > That’s what > matters.

No, results are what matters. "An apple tree does not bear peaches" and so forth. > Yes he got sick and did some questionable things

He was mentally sick to begin with. > (notice how > historians don’t bring this up, they prefer to think it was his plan from > the start)

Bring what up? What plan? His sickness has long been recognized, even pre-1933. > but nevertheless he did plenty of good as well.

Very little, depending on your definition of "good." > Every hooknosed > Jew ought to be gassed (and arabs along with them).

LOL — what about the ones w/o the nose? During WWII, one even made the cover of "Wehrmacht" magazine as an ideal Aryan soldier! And a founding member of the SS was a quarter-Jew, his bodyguard and chauffeur (and later romantic rival for his neice’s affections) Herr Maurice…etc. > Unfortunately the end > results (ie. the power Jews now have and the state of Israel) weren’t so > good but you can’t blame him for that.

What are you talking about? This is like GWB making Al Quaeda stronger, however inadvertently. Incompetency is regarded as a crime in most militaries, too, you know? > SIEG HEIL!

Oh hell.

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"Darkfalz" wrote in message … > "Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote in message > news:ckteod$sqh$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… > > You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap > > delirious wacko stuff. > Hitler was a good man and he did some great things.

Sometimes "intelligence" is merely a self-awarded licence to be stupid.

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news:6ebc501c.0410172316.e011b8f@posting.google.com… > "Darkfalz" wrote in message > … >> "Eleonore Beaudoin" wrote in message >> news:ckteod$sqh$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >> > You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap >> > delirious wacko stuff. >> Hitler was a good man and he did some great things. > Sometimes "intelligence" is merely a self-awarded licence to be stupid.

"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." The Jews were triumphing. Hitler did something. Something needs to be done again.

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news:ckteod$sqh$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Darkfalz" (darkfalz.use…@gmail.com) writes: >> "Lior Caspi" wrote in message >> news:aa3e0507.0410141744.298c0d6c@posting.google.com… >>> Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: >>> I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in >>> Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at >>> the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have >>> experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in >>> California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live >>> anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew >>> english it was even harder on me. Then I moved to Florida. At the >>> beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. >>> After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang >>> out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them. >>> The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide >>> but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and >>> start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in >>> high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think >>> sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I >>> sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making >>> friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I >>> dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really >>> lost right now and would accept anything you got to say. >> KEINE JUDEN! >> DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE! >> HEIL HITLER! > Falzie, for intelligence’s sake…… > Don’t lower yourself to that! > Hitler suffered from a venerial disease he contracted through sleeping > around without taking precautions, proving stupid already. He > contracted syphillis, known to give way to insanity if left untreated. He > left it untreated and got completely insane. As he saw his weewee fall to > pieces, he blamed his mommy for it, the jews, the boogie > man, and the big bad insects he shouted were after him on the screen of > his dementia and hallucinations: he had more and more of those, until > he lived under constant hallucinations as he aged, where his > staff tried all they could to hide his psychotic, mad, insane episodes. > What could you possibly have in common with insanity?? With any STD you’d > have caught sleeping around unprotected like a moron? Yes, condoms > existed then too, btw. You are an intelligent virgin man, not an idiotic > male > slut. You have a working mind, right? > Then remain smart. Don’t fall for that cheap type of desperate > teen provocation that only the insane could find admirable or even > valuable. > You got way too much intelligence to lower yourself to such easy cheap > delirious wacko stuff.

Hitler was a good man and he did some great things. Most of all, he stood up for what he believed in and saw it through until the end. That’s what matters. Yes he got sick and did some questionable things (notice how historians don’t bring this up, they prefer to think it was his plan from the start) but nevertheless he did plenty of good as well. Every hooknosed Jew ought to be gassed (and arabs along with them). Unfortunately the end results (ie. the power Jews now have and the state of Israel) weren’t so good but you can’t blame him for that. SIEG HEIL!

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In article <4172052…@news1.mweb.co.za>, michaelashouse says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> Find out what you like doing or want to, and take the steps to get >> you there. Try out new things. >> eg. I like playing volleyball a lot, and would have played it sooner, >> if I knew how much fun it really was. You can read up about basic >> techniques and then practice them. If you have one of those cheap >> practice volleyballs, it would be a way of making new friends, >> and interacting with people, without too much talking… >> I wanted to photograph pretty women at your age — I just went out >> and did it, asking women to pose for me, like through a modelling >> school – they had amateur models who would happily pose for the >> camera. >Very cool. > Very often we put limits on ourselves, when they are not >> necessarily there at all, really. >That rings true to me too. >> If you do stuff you really like doing — then you won’t be so >> unhappy and miserable. >> Harvey >> In article , >> Lio_EB…@hotmail.com says… >>> Lior.

If you really want to do something, take the steps that will get you there. Another example… I was into home computers way back in 1981 – I looked over the magazines not able to decide what I wanted. Ended up buying an Atari 800 in London – about a year later, I started my first drawing on the computer, then did some others. I eventually got into designing game graphics for a friend’s computer game – he was a keen arcade games player (Home computer version only). He wanted to program his own games – found out that BASIC was way too slow, and slowly he learnt assembly language programming – from a book. About his third program, was a complete game, called "Laser Hawk" – which took about a year, part time to complete. I designed the graphics for him, in 1986 it was published in England and got limited sales there. We planned our next game, it eventually took 3 years to complete, as it was a massive game with an involved game design, called "HawkQuest" – being 360k of data. (Programs were around 32k to 48k back then) http://members.tripod.com/~hawkquest I never thought I would get around to working on a computer videogame, as I’ve always only played them. I didn’t think my friend would get around to writing his own computer game, as he didn’t know machine code – when you’ve seen his first two efforts at programming, you wouldn’t have been impressed at all. His 3rd effort led to a full game, incorporating what he learnt through his early efforts. So it seems to me now, how strange it was, that events did fall into place that enabled the completion of Laser Hawk and HawkQuest – lots of coincidences and contact with various people, etc which all HELPED to get those projects/games done. So given time (and effort, etc) anything is possible. Harvey

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"Darkfalz" wrote in message … > KEINE JUDEN! > DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE! > HEIL HITLER!

Gott im Himmel! Wie sagt man "LOL" auf Deustch?? Actually, it’s quite interesting that you bring up Hitler in ASL…talk about lonely! That’s what happens when folks get real lonely and wrapped up in themselves. Amazing how many lonely people went along with him, eh? Because they didn’t know what to do with their existential angst, they sought to lose themselves in something greater than themselves. It’s a sort of reverse cannabalism.

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Lio_EB…@hotmail.com (Lior Caspi) wrote in message … > As you said about yourself, the thing that is keeping me going is the > thought that life would get better after a while. Of course I would > rather have a good high school experience, but I know that after the 4 > years of high school life might turn differently.

As Nietzsche remarked, what if this life is the only life you’ll ever have? What if this is *it*? In that same vein, what if it gets worse? Is life inherently good, does it have intrinsic value, or is it something which we’ll "tolerate" only as long as we have fun, get enough "hits" out of it like some drug addict? Have you read Viktor Frankl’s "Man’s Searching for Meaning" yet? He was a psychotherapist who spent years in a Nazi death camp. It’s interesting to "compare notes" with someone like him, and I recommend you read that book. > Yes, it is. I remember my elementary school years when It was easy for > me to make friends. The funny thing is, the best friends I do have > live in my home country (Israel) and I knew all of them from > elementary school. Few even from kindergarden. This has nothing to do > with the topic, but I also remember how over there, unlike here, > everything was at a walking distane.

Well, IIRC, your country can be as little as eight miles wide at its narrowest, right? You obviously don’t live in a city — but what’s preventing you from bicycling? Though I know those narrow country roads can be dangerous, too (same goes for suburban roads). Look, in your case you also have the issue of being a transplant at the delicate adolescent years…don’t discount the impact of that fact — in other words, much of your "problem" (more to the point, your perception of a problem) may relate to the usual adolescent angst that everyone goes through, but which some, like the popular kids, can easily brush aside and therefore doesn’t appear on their radar screens so often. > We used to hang out at the mall > and the streets every other day and just enjoy ourselves. Every summer > I go over there and hang out. They do not know that my life in the > United States are a lonely one. I leave the expression that I am > having the time of my life. They take it forgranted the fact of having > friends and having fun, but I adore every moment I get with them.

Well, you’re surely homesick, too. You know, maybe your situation is also a bit like a guy or gal who dates but cant’ help comparing everyone to their ex, who was the big crush of their lives. Know what I mean? There may also be the matter of your own expectations, as much as anything else. Don’t forget that Israeli society is rather more "cohesive" than here in the States. I remember reading — and I’ve no reason to doubt these first-hand accounts — that Israeli society is a lot more "structured" than ours, given the political situation there. You guys have a founding myth, whereas our founding myths have been under much attack (they still stand, but not with so much dignity as before)…I think y’all may have more of a sense of a common destiny there, a common national destiny…here in the States, it’s intellectual, our ties to fellow citizens are more intellectual than emotional, since we’re of such diverse backgrounds (and therefore tastes, really emotional stuff that’s beyond logic, like the idioms of a language which don’t translate well even if we can get the gist of their meaning). > I got to this newsgroup by looking at the groups Google has to offer. > I noticed at the veriaty and looked for the one that fits me, that is > depression/loneliness.

Ah, okay, like most of us, then! So you’re not so alone, see? =) > Yep. I dont always feel sad about being alone. Some days I just cope > with it and think maybe it is the day I came to accept it, but then I > see how others are having fun and just cant bare the sight of it, and > I feel sad again. Its something that comes and goes.

Me, psychologically, I’ve somehow come to view the fun of others as my own, too, somewhat. For friends, I try to imagine the situation from their point of view, and when I’m successful doing that, I can actually feel a bit of their happiness rubbing off on me! Just a tiny bit, and that’s only sometimes. But what I’m trying to say is that if you could somehow claim their fun as your own, even if only conceptually…then you might not feel so bad, nor as often…like, with me, I see couples, or others having fun, and I feel a little "sentimental" — if that’s the right word here — and think, ah, I’m glad *somebody* is having fun, I’m glad life *does* go on, ’cause that gives me hope, hope that my turn may yet come around again! It’s like seeing someone doing something you used to do but no longer do and you start getting the old urge again and think, yes, that’s how it was! and you get kinda "inspired" by it…no need to take things "personally" in a negative way, no need to wonder "well how about *me* and mine"…like seeing someone with a BMW and a big mansion and not feeling jealous…. > Well, I think a girl is something all straight men are fantasizing > about, regardless of location and age.

Yes, in terms of sex — but I believe that some guys are actually happy, really, deeply happy with their current wives or girlfriends or whatever, and no longer "fantasize" about *love* and being loved…at such a time, it’s simply a matter of sexual taste or curiosity, it’s no longer a matter of "love"…if that makes any sense…. > The question is, what is your > dream in life you fantasizing about. Is it becoming a doctor? opening > a company? seeing sights? Mine is traveling in South America, Europe, > and Asia. My dream was to spend a few years of just traveling, and do > so at an age as young as possible.

Typical Israeli! =) My life goal, if that’s what you mean, is to be a novelist, and a much beloved one, financially successful as well as critically acclaimed — for all time! It’s not the kind of "easy" thing to achieve, as you can see. So I think it’s just as well that life has disciplined me to accept disappointment and so forth. =) > What’s my problem? Reread what you just read.

Not necessarily…you may have only described the symptoms, the manifestations of some underlying thing. I’m curious what you yourself, given the time of an honest effort, might think.

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"Lior Caspi" wrote in message

news:aa3e0507.0410141744.298c0d6c@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: > I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in > Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at > the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have > experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in > California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live > anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew > english it was even harder on me. Then I moved to Florida. At the > beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. > After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang > out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them. > The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide > but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and > start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in > high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think > sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I > sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making > friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I > dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really > lost right now and would accept anything you got to say.

KEINE JUDEN! DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE! HEIL HITLER!

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jack_foreig…@yahoo.com (Left Hand of Empire) wrote in message … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Lio_EB…@hotmail.com (Lior Caspi) wrote in message … > > Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: > > I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in > > Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at > > the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have > > experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in > > California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live > > anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew > > english it was even harder on me. > You remember the story of Cain and Abel? God’s punishment for Cain > murdering his brother Abel wasn’t the death penalty — it was exile. > Loneliness is indeed worse than mere death. Even when I haven’t > exactly been depressed I’ve wondered about suicide. It all just seems > so pointless. What’s keeping from actually doing it? For me, aside > from simple physical cowardice, is a sense of feeling like I haven’t > quite lived yet…I would feel cheated indeed if I were to just die > and not have had at least some of my goddamned dreams come true, you > know…that, and curiosity: curiosity about where things will wind up, > how things will develop, in my life, in the world. The real reason I > have to keep going, even in the worst of times, is this sense of not > having had my share yet of the good life, and simple curiosity whether > I ever will. > So, what kept you going? What’s keeping you going even now?

As you said about yourself, the thing that is keeping me going is the thought that life would get better after a while. Of course I would rather have a good high school experience, but I know that after the 4 years of high school life might turn differently. > > Then I moved to Florida. At the > > beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. > > After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang > > out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them. > Yeah, I can relate. It’s harder to make friends as one gets older, > isn’t it? Funny but true. As kids, we can simply just hang out, > we’ve got nothing better to do anyway, in a sense.

Yes, it is. I remember my elementary school years when It was easy for me to make friends. The funny thing is, the best friends I do have live in my home country (Israel) and I knew all of them from elementary school. Few even from kindergarden. This has nothing to do with the topic, but I also remember how over there, unlike here, everything was at a walking distane. We used to hang out at the mall and the streets every other day and just enjoy ourselves. Every summer I go over there and hang out. They do not know that my life in the United States are a lonely one. I leave the expression that I am having the time of my life. They take it forgranted the fact of having friends and having fun, but I adore every moment I get with them. > How did you find this newsgroup? I think you came to the right place > for a bit of companionship/fellowship/comradery.

I got to this newsgroup by looking at the groups Google has to offer. I noticed at the veriaty and looked for the one that fits me, that is depression/loneliness. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide > > but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and > > start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in > > high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think > > sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I > > sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making > > friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I > > dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really > > lost right now and would accept anything you got to say. > > Please reply > > Lior. > What is it you want to talk about, exactly? I remember just suddenly > feeling sad as a kid, too — just feeling very sad and wanting to cry. > I’m not like that anymore, thank Goodness, but I still remember those > days. Feeling so alone and all.

Yep. I dont always feel sad about being alone. Some days I just cope with it and think maybe it is the day I came to accept it, but then I see how others are having fun and just cant bare the sight of it, and I feel sad again. Its something that comes and goes. > You’re here now. Here, "we stand alone together." What’s on your > mind, really? What do you find yourself thinking about most of the > time? Me, I’m still fantasizing about having a girl, you know, having > a love of my life.

Well, I think a girl is something all straight men are fantasizing about, regardless of location and age. The question is, what is your dream in life you fantasizing about. Is it becoming a doctor? opening a company? seeing sights? Mine is traveling in South America, Europe, and Asia. My dream was to spend a few years of just traveling, and do so at an age as young as possible. > What’s your problem? =)

What’s my problem? Reread what you just read.

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Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > Find out what you like doing or want to, and take the steps to get > you there. Try out new things. > eg. I like playing volleyball a lot, and would have played it sooner, > if I knew how much fun it really was. You can read up about basic > techniques and then practice them. If you have one of those cheap > practice volleyballs, it would be a way of making new friends, > and interacting with people, without too much talking… > I wanted to photograph pretty women at your age — I just went out > and did it, asking women to pose for me, like through a modelling > school – they had amateur models who would happily pose for the > camera.

Very cool. Very often we put limits on ourselves, when they are not > necessarily there at all, really.

That rings true to me too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you do stuff you really like doing — then you won’t be so > unhappy and miserable. > Harvey > In article , > Lio_EB…@hotmail.com says… >> Lior.

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Lio_EB…@hotmail.com (Lior Caspi) wrote in message … > Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: > I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in > Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at > the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have > experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in > California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live > anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew > english it was even harder on me.

You remember the story of Cain and Abel? God’s punishment for Cain murdering his brother Abel wasn’t the death penalty — it was exile. Loneliness is indeed worse than mere death. Even when I haven’t exactly been depressed I’ve wondered about suicide. It all just seems so pointless. What’s keeping from actually doing it? For me, aside from simple physical cowardice, is a sense of feeling like I haven’t quite lived yet…I would feel cheated indeed if I were to just die and not have had at least some of my goddamned dreams come true, you know…that, and curiosity: curiosity about where things will wind up, how things will develop, in my life, in the world. The real reason I have to keep going, even in the worst of times, is this sense of not having had my share yet of the good life, and simple curiosity whether I ever will. So, what kept you going? What’s keeping you going even now? > Then I moved to Florida. At the > beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. > After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang > out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them.

Yeah, I can relate. It’s harder to make friends as one gets older, isn’t it? Funny but true. As kids, we can simply just hang out, we’ve got nothing better to do anyway, in a sense. How did you find this newsgroup? I think you came to the right place for a bit of companionship/fellowship/comradery. > The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide > but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and > start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in > high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think > sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I > sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making > friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I > dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really > lost right now and would accept anything you got to say. > Please reply > Lior.

What is it you want to talk about, exactly? I remember just suddenly feeling sad as a kid, too — just feeling very sad and wanting to cry. I’m not like that anymore, thank Goodness, but I still remember those days. Feeling so alone and all. You’re here now. Here, "we stand alone together." What’s on your mind, really? What do you find yourself thinking about most of the time? Me, I’m still fantasizing about having a girl, you know, having a love of my life. What’s your problem? =)

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Find out what you like doing or want to, and take the steps to get you there. Try out new things. eg. I like playing volleyball a lot, and would have played it sooner, if I knew how much fun it really was. You can read up about basic techniques and then practice them. If you have one of those cheap practice volleyballs, it would be a way of making new friends, and interacting with people, without too much talking… I wanted to photograph pretty women at your age — I just went out and did it, asking women to pose for me, like through a modelling school – they had amateur models who would happily pose for the camera. Very often we put limits on ourselves, when they are not necessarily there at all, really. If you do stuff you really like doing — then you won’t be so unhappy and miserable. Harvey In article , Lio_EB…@hotmail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hey, my name is Lior and here is my story: >I am a 17 year old who lives in Florida. I was originally born in >Israel, moved to california when I was 13, then moved to Florida at >the age of 15. Ever since I lived in the United States I have >experienced major and minor depressions. The two years I lived in >California I thought a lot of suicide and just did not want to live >anymore. I did not have anyone to talk to and since I barely knew >english it was even harder on me. Then I moved to Florida. At the >beginning I was quite happy because I had lots of friends in school. >After a while I thought I will be able to get closer to them and hang >out with them, but as time went by I only got further away from them. >The two years so far that I live in Florida I did not think of suicide >but had many depressions and sometimes came home going to my room and >start crying. Lately, loneliness really got into me. I am a Junior in >high school and I really got no one close to talk to. I think >sometimes of going to consuling but then think ‘what is the use’. I >sometimes wonder to myself what is the reason I have hard times making >friends. I know that my shyness is one of the major reasons, and I >dont find myself very good looking although some say I am. I am really >lost right now and would accept anything you got to say. >Please reply >Lior.

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God= L_uv

admin — Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… says… God is Love, Wrong. Love is an emotion. Wrong. Lust is an emotion. Irrelevant. On the contrary. You can try to be contrary all you want, but it’s still irrelevant. I didn’t talk about "Lust". Claiming that lust is an emotion says nothing about "Love". It says quite a bit actually. No, actually it doesn’t. Your unconvincing assertion about Lust still says nothing directly about Love. It sharply differentiates love from an emotion. It certainly wasn’t sharp. It was hopelessly vague.

That is probably because the difference *is* hopelessly vague. You are under the erroneous impression that love is an emotion.

Not erroneous. What the dictionary says– love P Pronunciation Key (luv) n. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance. ^^^^^^^ Sexual passion. Sexual intercourse. A love affair. An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object. A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment. An expression of one’s affection: Send him my love. A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language. The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love. Love Mythology. Eros or Cupid. often Love Christianity. Charity. Sports. A zero score in tennis. v. loved, lov