Lonely Loneliness

Al Roker on TV this morning.

Question:

why judge?

Rosie, I’m calling the kettle black here with this post, but here goes… I’ve noticed you commenting a lot lately on whether someone should feel a certain way or should think something or should write something.  You are commenting on their thought process and the worthiness of their post. That makes me uncomfortable.  I feel judged by you.  You force me into a corner to defend people I like and to defend myself, too.  We ought to be able to post what we want and have it be taken for what it is.  Sometimes they will be useful to someone and sometimes they won’t be.  It feels like you read every post and judge whether you think it ought to have been written.  I’d prefer you keep those comments to yourself. That said, I like the "welcomes" and "atta girls" you do.  I also would be interested in hearing more about what you found works and what doesn’t work, about how you manage the mechanisms of weight loss (mental issues, getting exercise in, etc.) — Wendy

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I just wonder how committed he was to other weight loss plans and how much his celebrity  played into his Dr’s decision to go ahead with the surgery. — Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris 332.4/234.8/185  (24 inches lost) Pat 198.4/161/155 Combined loss of 135.0 lbs congrats to you on your success with your weight loss. congrats for finding what works for you! if you watched the show last night you heard mr. roker say that he tried why judge?

Not really judging, just wondering aloud. — Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris 332.4/235.2/185  (24 inches lost) Pat 198.4/163/155 Combined loss of 135.0 lbs

Response:

 I just wonder how committed he was to other weight loss plans and how much his celebrity  played into his Dr’s decision to go ahead with the surgery. — Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris 332.4/234.8/185  (24 inches lost) Pat 198.4/161/155 Combined loss of 135.0 lbs

congrats to you on your success with your weight loss. congrats for finding what works for you! if you watched the show last night you heard mr. roker say that he tried why judge?

Response:

I missed the broadcast but I too remember Al lost quite a bit of weight a few years ago and he gained it all back. I can understand his reasons for going through with the surgery because I was seriously considering this procedure myself year before last. I’m glad I decided against the surgery though. If it’s true that some folks have gained back all the weight after gastric bypass…Yikes! I wish Al all the best. -Alex 275/148/140 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I caught the segment of the show where Al and his Dr. were siscussing hi surgery.  She mentioned that the mortality rate was 1 in 200!   I now everyone is different and this may have been his only option left but I can’t get it out of my head that I was 12 lbs heavier than he was when I started WW in February and have lost 97 lbs with diet and (sorta) exercise in the time it took him to lose 102 after gastric bypass surgery.  I just wonder how committed he was to other weight loss plans and how much his celebrity  played into his Dr’s decision to go ahead with the surgery.

Response:

I caught the segment of the show where Al and his Dr. were siscussing hi surgery.  She mentioned that the mortality rate was 1 in 200!

I didn’t see today’s show but I did catch 20/20 last night and I too was surprised at the high mortality rate.  Much higher than what I thought. Last night he said he had tried every diet that came along.  He was able to lose but had always gained back what he lost plus more.  Sounds as if he’s been a yo-yo dieter most of his life.  It will be interesting to see how he does over the up coming years. I know two people who have had weight loss surgeries and they’ve both managed to gain back to their original weights.  One had a stomach stapling procedure and I’m not sure what the other had.  Neither of them learned to eat correctly or exercise after the procedures.  They both still experience stomach problems from eating the wrong foods.  I think this just goes to show that even the surgery is not a permanent fix unless you learn to eat and exercise properly…..something they could have done from the beginning. Beverly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I now everyone is different and this may have been his only option left but I can’t get it out of my head that I was 12 lbs heavier than he was when I started WW in February and have lost 97 lbs with diet and (sorta) exercise in the time it took him to lose 102 after gastric bypass surgery.  I just wonder how committed he was to other weight loss plans and how much his celebrity  played into his Dr’s decision to go ahead with the surgery. — Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris 332.4/234.8/185  (24 inches lost) Pat 198.4/161/155 Combined loss of 135.0 lbs

Response:

I saw the segment on his surgery on Dateline last night.  They said he’d tried many times to lose weight, but it always came back.  Roker admitted to being a compulsive eater (aren’t we all!) and just felt that he could not control his diet himself. Gastric bypass is a drastic solution, and (as you pointed out) life threatening.  I would imagine most people would only choose it as a last resort.

Response:

I caught the segment of the show where Al and his Dr. were siscussing hi surgery.  She mentioned that the mortality rate was 1 in 200!   I now everyone is different and this may have been his only option left but I can’t get it out of my head that I was 12 lbs heavier than he was when I started WW in February and have lost 97 lbs with diet and (sorta) exercise in the time it took him to lose 102 after gastric bypass surgery.  I just wonder how committed he was to other weight loss plans and how much his celebrity  played into his Dr’s decision to go ahead with the surgery. — Started Weight Watchers together February 2002: Chris 332.4/234.8/185  (24 inches lost) Pat 198.4/161/155 Combined loss of 135.0 lbs

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 But it’s easy to criticize people if we don’t walk in their shoes, can’t see what they see when they look in a mirror, feel their hopelessness and depression and their feelings of loss, loneliness, etc.

AMEN, CALEB, AMEN! — read and post daily, it works! rosie say. r.w.emerson

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not trying to be contrary here, but even though I somewhat criticized Al Roker this morning, I do agree with Rosie — what works for Roker works for Roker. Even though there is a substantial risk of death and other side-effects from stomach-stapling surgery. In the past, people have posted their questions about stomach-stapling and they have been met with sharp criticism fairly regularly. (Similar criticism has occurred for liquid diets.) But it’s easy to criticize people if we don’t walk in their shoes, can’t see what they see when they look in a mirror, feel their hopelessness and depression and their feelings of loss, loneliness, etc. I am not a physician, am not a medical worker, etc., but even if I were, I don’t think I’d necessarily criticize surgery which might lead to significant weight loss and improvement in health. People have to make their own decisions about such matters, and if stomach surgery is about the only way they can lose weight, then it sure is a viable option, especially if their uncorrected obesity will lead to a shortened life, other health problems, etc. Yours, Caleb why judge? Rosie, I’m calling the kettle black here with this post, but here goes… I’ve noticed you commenting a lot lately on whether someone should feel a certain way or should think something or should write something.  You are commenting on their thought process and the worthiness of their post. That makes me uncomfortable.  I feel judged by you.  You force me into a corner to defend people I like and to defend myself, too.  We ought to be able to post what we want and have it be taken for what it is. Sometimes they will be useful to someone and sometimes they won’t be.  It feels like you read every post and judge whether you think it ought to have been written.  I’d prefer you keep those comments to yourself. That said, I like the "welcomes" and "atta girls" you do.  I also would be interested in hearing more about what you found works and what doesn’t work, about how you manage the mechanisms of weight loss (mental issues, getting exercise in, etc.) — Wendy

Response:

I’m not trying to be contrary here, but even though I somewhat criticized Al Roker this morning, I do agree with Rosie — what works for Roker works for Roker. Even though there is a substantial risk of death and other side-effects from stomach-stapling surgery. In the past, people have posted their questions about stomach-stapling and they have been met with sharp criticism fairly regularly. (Similar criticism has occurred for liquid diets.) But it’s easy to criticize people if we don’t walk in their shoes, can’t see what they see when they look in a mirror, feel their hopelessness and depression and their feelings of loss, loneliness, etc. I am not a physician, am not a medical worker, etc., but even if I were, I don’t think I’d necessarily criticize surgery which might lead to significant weight loss and improvement in health. People have to make their own decisions about such matters, and if stomach surgery is about the only way they can lose weight, then it sure is a viable option, especially if their uncorrected obesity will lead to a shortened life, other health problems, etc. Yours, Caleb

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – why judge? Rosie, I’m calling the kettle black here with this post, but here goes… I’ve noticed you commenting a lot lately on whether someone should feel a certain way or should think something or should write something.  You are commenting on their thought process and the worthiness of their post. That makes me uncomfortable.  I feel judged by you.  You force me into a corner to defend people I like and to defend myself, too.  We ought to be able to post what we want and have it be taken for what it is.  Sometimes they will be useful to someone and sometimes they won’t be.  It feels like you read every post and judge whether you think it ought to have been written.  I’d prefer you keep those comments to yourself. That said, I like the "welcomes" and "atta girls" you do.  I also would be interested in hearing more about what you found works and what doesn’t work, about how you manage the mechanisms of weight loss (mental issues, getting exercise in, etc.) — Wendy

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