Lonely Loneliness

Anyone: If You Felt Lonely Today . . .

Question:

sumire, FUCK OFF.   Get a life.

Response:

"He" is a "She", Anon, all the time I have been in asl a man would have never told me to fuck off, tehe Sumi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> You are telling a lot of absolutely >> basic and disillusioning truths in what >> you wrote below. >He just wants to whine.

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Anon wrote: > You can’t let personal ads get you down. The whole thing is that more guys > message girls anyway. That’s the way of the world. You can stop whining and > enjoy life. Everyone needs to whine but just stop being a pussy.

When approaching Internet Personals, it helps to have an Unspeakable Perversion. That way, all the lists of "requirements" and so on will be utterly irrelevant to you: you’ll simply be scanning for those subtle signs that this person shares your Unspeakable Perversion, and everything’s much simpler. Not to mention glorious when you finally find her. "Forget the rest – does this person look as if she listens to Abba LPs in private? Is the word ‘Waterloo’ casually mentioned anywhere in the text? Does she appear dressed in what might be a pink jumpsuit?"

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"Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote in message

news:4302f0e5$0$89643$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com… You don’t sound happy at all… "…This yet again proves the whole "be happy by yourself" thing is bull. I am happy by myself but it cannot go on for a perpetual duration. Everyone else when they’re unhappy by themselves goes out and finds someone. I can’t do that. I don’t understand why. I fear it will be like this for the rest of my life. I just don’t have *anyone* close…" And relationships that begin with and start from a position and feeling of loneliness just result in dependancy, followed by disaster. Just an opinion, based on bitter experience.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Janus" (timelor…@btopenworld.com) writes: > "Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote in message > news:4302f0e5$0$89643$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com… > You don’t sound happy at all… > "…This yet again proves the whole "be happy by yourself" thing is bull. I > am > happy by myself but it cannot go on for a perpetual duration. Everyone else > when they’re unhappy by themselves goes out and finds someone. I can’t do > that. I don’t understand why. I fear it will be like this for the rest of my > life. I just don’t have *anyone* close…" > And relationships that begin with and start from a position and feeling of > loneliness just result in dependancy, followed by disaster. Just an opinion, > based on bitter experience.

Relationships that start based on "need"  ususally are some where love can hardly be spontaneously celebrated: those couples then have to make love like others "make" war: with plans, booby traps, embush, injury and post trauma;-). Half kidding. But there must be some half truth somewhere in there. Just throwing it raw and leaving it to others to chop the liver;-) (I.e. random thought) (Can "one" thought be ranmdom? If not, then can two thoughts, i.e. one thought plus one thought, be random? All the thinking in one life? Ooops….Too many thoughts for one post….Din mean it, it was completely random:);-)) —

Response:

Eleonore Beaudoin wrote: > Relationships that start based on "need"  ususally are some where love can > hardly be spontaneously celebrated: those couples then have to make love > like others "make" war: with plans, booby traps, embush, injury and post > trauma;-).

(from the Internet) During the wedding rehearsal, the groom approached the pastor with an unusual offer. "Look, I’ll give you $100 if you’ll change the wedding vows. When you get to me and the part where I’m to promise to ‘love, honor and obey’ and ‘forsaking all others, be faithful to her forever,’ I’d appreciate it if you’d just leave that part out." He passed the minister a $100 bill and walked away satisfied. It is now the day of the wedding, and the bride and groom have moved to that part of the ceremony where the vows are exchanged. When it comes time for the groom’s vows, the pastor looks the young man in the eye and says: "Will you promise to prostrate yourself before her, obey her every command and wish, serve her breakfast in bed every morning of your life and swear eternally before God and your lovely wife that you will not ever even look at another woman, as long as you both shall live?" The groom gulped and looked around, and said in a tiny voice, "Yes." The groom leaned toward the pastor and hissed, "I thought we had a deal." The pastor put the $100 bill into his hand and whispered back, "She made me a much better offer."

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"OB" (nevilemo…@yahoo.com) writes: > Eleonore Beaudoin wrote: >> Relationships that start based on "need"  ususally are some where love can >> hardly be spontaneously celebrated: those couples then have to make love >> like others "make" war: with plans, booby traps, embush, injury and post >> trauma;-). > (from the Internet) > During the wedding rehearsal, the groom approached the pastor with an > unusual offer. > "Look, I’ll give you $100 if you’ll change the wedding vows. When you > get to me and the part where I’m to promise to ‘love, honor and obey’ > and ‘forsaking all others, be faithful to her forever,’ I’d appreciate > it if you’d just leave that part out." He passed the minister a $100 > bill and walked away satisfied. > It is now the day of the wedding, and the bride and groom have moved to > that part of the ceremony where the vows are exchanged. When it comes > time for the groom’s vows, the pastor looks the young man in the eye > and says: > "Will you promise to prostrate yourself before her, obey her every > command and wish, serve her breakfast in bed every morning of your life > and swear eternally before God and your lovely wife that you will not > ever even look at another woman, as long as you both shall live?" > The groom gulped and looked around, and said in a tiny voice, "Yes." > The groom leaned toward the pastor and hissed, "I thought we had a > deal." > The pastor put the $100 bill into his hand and whispered back, "She > made me a much better offer."

L:) See?:) Hardwork and plans and money hunt and …and…and…Atleast, she had you move to a hot country where there must be no dirty socks to wash:) (Take it you work in sandals, or do they insist on covering your prized feet?:)) —

Response:

> And relationships that begin with and start from a position and feeling of > loneliness just result in dependancy, followed by disaster. Just an > opinion, > based on bitter experience.

Except I’d gotten over the really bad depression before I met her "Janus" <timelor…@btopenworld.com> wrote in message

news:deco1s$jf9$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote in message > news:4302f0e5$0$89643$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com… > You don’t sound happy at all… > "…This yet again proves the whole "be happy by yourself" thing is bull. > I > am > happy by myself but it cannot go on for a perpetual duration. Everyone > else > when they’re unhappy by themselves goes out and finds someone. I can’t do > that. I don’t understand why. I fear it will be like this for the rest of > my > life. I just don’t have *anyone* close…"

Response:

How did you guess???   ;o) "Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote in message

news:430cc6b0$0$1559$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > And relationships that begin with and start from a position and feeling of > > loneliness just result in dependancy, followed by disaster. Just an > > opinion, > > based on bitter experience. > Except I’d gotten over the really bad depression before I met her > "Janus" <timelor…@btopenworld.com> wrote in message > news:deco1s$jf9$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com… > > "Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote in message > > news:4302f0e5$0$89643$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com… > > You don’t sound happy at all… > > "…This yet again proves the whole "be happy by yourself" thing is bull. > > I > > am > > happy by myself but it cannot go on for a perpetual duration. Everyone > > else > > when they’re unhappy by themselves goes out and finds someone. I can’t do > > that. I don’t understand why. I fear it will be like this for the rest of > > my > > life. I just don’t have *anyone* close…"

Response:

"sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:a0308bc9eec041705521a8ed741652f9@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > Point Two: > Whoever is or feels lonely is welcome here. > There is no rule that only heterosexuals are > welcome.

I a guy I’m sort of on friendly terms with (not really a friend-friend) was on speaking terms with only one member of his family, till that guy told him he was going to hell because he (my "friend") is gay.   — "You tried to scan me, you freaked-out maniac." –TV’s Frank.

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"sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:de88e42f3dea6341f0b8f9e393e22940@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sumi > "I sent responses to about four personal ads where their stated > requirements pretty much fit me, if they were honest.  I have had no > responses.  Feels heavy, feel dull.  Over 3,000 have viewed my ad but > I’ve gotten very few responses.  That is horrible.  I get some interest > in person; none online.  They are all a bunch of "baggage handlers" > i.e., those guys who don’t want women with emotional baggage, as if > they don’t have that and haven’t caused it in others.  By the time > people reach middle age, as these guys have, everyone has it. > I was struck by how uniform and unlikely the wording of the ads were. > Everyone was LOVING living where we do, LUVING the outdoors and > whatnot.  It’s actually quite hard to live here because of certain > factors.  The behaviors and expressions of people that I meet on a > daily basis would not support the majority here living in continuous > joy.  This has become the new cheesy personal ad wording.

<snip> funny because it’s true…most people seem like lying sacks of shit to me, but then again… — "You tried to scan me, you freaked-out maniac." –TV’s Frank.

Response:

Anyone:  If You Felt Lonely Today .  .  .  . How did it feel?  When did it come about?  What are the details? (If you want to share) Please reserve this thread for answering this question or the occasional sympathetic response.  Thanks.

Response:

The other day I was at the beach looking at the beauty and that might have did it.  I spend every day alone.  It sucks.  I feel like there is this shell around me,  a harsh shell and I don’t get love or companionship like other people.  I’ve gotten used to it but I haven’t gotten used to it.  I can’t get used to the problems with my skin.  The bug the fuck out of me.  Scabs.  Sometimes the phantom possibility of love has animated me and even that seems to have been destroyed now.  I hate these fucking scabs and shit on my skin.  The phantom possibility of love used to escort me through my day.  The rituals that I used to take care of my body added some desirabillity and hope.  Now I am flaccid and unlovable and old looking. It sucks totally.  I am pride robbed.  I am bereft.  I am lonely and hopeless.  Sigh. Please, no advice or debating.  Thank you.

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That’s truly a prison without walls. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anon-e-Mouse wrote: > The other day I was at the beach looking at the beauty and that might > have did it.  I spend every day alone.  It sucks.  I feel like there is > this shell around me,  a harsh shell and I don’t get love or > companionship like other people.  I’ve gotten used to it but I haven’t > gotten used to it.  I can’t get used to the problems with my skin.  The > bug the fuck out of me.  Scabs.  Sometimes the phantom possibility of > love has animated me and even that seems to have been destroyed now.  I > hate these fucking scabs and shit on my skin.  The phantom possibility > of love used to escort me through my day.  The rituals that I used to > take care of my body added some desirabillity and hope.  Now I am > flaccid and unlovable and old looking. It sucks totally.  I am pride > robbed.  I am bereft.  I am lonely and hopeless.  Sigh. > Please, no advice or debating.  Thank you.

Response:

Anon-e-Mouse wrote: > The other day I was at the beach looking at the beauty and that might > have did it.  I spend every day alone.  It sucks.  I feel like there is > this shell around me,  a harsh shell and I don’t get love or > companionship like other people.  I’ve gotten used to it but I haven’t > gotten used to it.  I can’t get used to the problems with my skin.  The > bug the fuck out of me.  Scabs.  Sometimes the phantom possibility of > love has animated me and even that seems to have been destroyed now.  I > hate these fucking scabs and shit on my skin.  The phantom possibility > of love used to escort me through my day.  The rituals that I used to > take care of my body added some desirabillity and hope.  Now I am > flaccid and unlovable and old looking. It sucks totally.  I am pride > robbed.  I am bereft.  I am lonely and hopeless.  Sigh. > Please, no advice or debating.  Thank you.

Okay, neither advice nor debating. Okay then. Take a neutral prognosis instead: There should be some help and things will become better with your skin, take this for granted. Good luck then! Sumire

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Well it was yesterday. I was sitting at work while all the girls talk about their boyfriends knowing I cannot get into relationships. Then this amazingly beautiful girl altho anti-social (but nice when you talk to her) girl sat in my eye line. She’s gotta know I like her cause she always catches my stare. I even managed a smile at her! omg. And then coming home couples again. It’s like your shell. Knowing everyone else gets something I don’t have or cannot get. I was normal/happy a FULL 8 MONTHS! But then my relationship ended around 4-5 months ago and now I’m back to normal altho not as bad. This yet again proves the whole "be happy by yourself" thing is bull. I am happy by myself but it cannot go on for a perpetual duration. Everyone else when they’re unhappy by themselves goes out and finds someone. I can’t do that. I don’t understand why. I fear it will be like this for the rest of my life. I just don’t have *anyone* close. I have this weird friendship with a girl but it’s mostly over the phone. In real life I’m people’s friends but no one’s best friend. I get to do social things but this sometimes makes me feel even lonelier. And I’m not getting any younger and this is my final year at university the time when you’re supposed to be at your most social and in relationships because after that the contact sphere dries up. A good test of if I’m feeling lonely is I wake up with clenched teeth. I did that today. "Anon-e-Mouse" <anne_o_nymou…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1124098569.576454.134350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone:  If You Felt Lonely Today .  .  .  . > How did it feel?  When did it come about?  What are the details? (If > you want to share) > Please reserve this thread for answering this question or the > occasional sympathetic response.  Thanks.

Response:

Well expressed and well observed.  I’m sorry it’s like that for you, and for me.

Response:

I was full of lust and there was no one as they always is.  I thought of some outfits I could wear and stuff if I had someone but my body is ruined and it would be a joke.  What an asshole fate is.  It makes me feel mad and defeated and hopeless. Please no advice or stuff. Thanks.

Response:

>  I thought > of some outfits I could wear and stuff if I had someone but my body is > ruined and it would be a joke.

You mean you’re fat? if so no biggie just work out. I know you can’t be bothered to do things to look good cause it gets you (us) no where. but working out takes my mind off things and makes you look good so you have a higher chance of maybe finding someone! Loneliness is gay. "Anon-e-Mouse" <anne_o_nymou…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1124273583.774238.135570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was full of lust and there was no one as they always is. What an asshole >fate is.  It makes me > feel mad and defeated and hopeless. > Please no advice or stuff. Thanks.

Response:

Anon, you’re gay.  Now go to a gay site.

Response:

Point One: Sometimes it appears to me that people do not read each other carefully enough. Hmm, some have not known each other long enough. Point Two: Whoever is or feels lonely is welcome here. There is no rule that only heterosexuals are welcome. Point three: ahm… forget it. Sumi

Response:

Welcome back, Anon, Didn’t I tell you  nicer prospects some time ago? Well then, times will be better for you, take this for granted. Sumi (also back again a bit

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You are telling a lot of absolutely basic and disillusioning truths in what you wrote below. Fact is that one can make a decent life in this world and with available people who are real and far from flawless. Who is flawless? Not me, not you, no-one. I accept the weak point of others as they make them lovable. Mr. Perfect and Ms. Perfect are illusions. Why want a Prince Charming? He will lie to you and pamper you with your own illusions. After a while he turns out to be a womanizer who knows all the buttons or he becomes Mr. Ugly. Prefer one of those flawed people who neither flatter nor pamper you, who are just real, and throw away your dreams of Mr. Perfect. And hm, forgive him a stupid ad. That might just be part of his flaws Show him he need not play a silly role but can be himself. I know what I’m talking about, my dear Hm, sorry if this was an advice you did not want. This is just my good ol’ personal style of responding. No offense. Sumi "I sent responses to about four personal ads where their stated requirements pretty much fit me, if they were honest.  I have had no responses.  Feels heavy, feel dull.  Over 3,000 have viewed my ad but I’ve gotten very few responses.  That is horrible.  I get some interest in person; none online.  They are all a bunch of "baggage handlers" i.e., those guys who don’t want women with emotional baggage, as if they don’t have that and haven’t caused it in others.  By the time people reach middle age, as these guys have, everyone has it. I was struck by how uniform and unlikely the wording of the ads were. Everyone was LOVING living where we do, LUVING the outdoors and whatnot.  It’s actually quite hard to live here because of certain factors.  The behaviors and expressions of people that I meet on a daily basis would not support the majority here living in continuous joy.  This has become the new cheesy personal ad wording. I remember over a decade ago I had another personal ad and at that time, everyone was claiming that they were into "walks on the beach"  I myself did walk on the beach and if these people were truthful, the beach would have looked like freeway at rush hour.  Everyone was into all kinds of outdoor activities, but when you would meet them and take them hiking, for instance, they would complain that this got their shoes dirty.  It’s sick, the cheesy imitative prose style that infests these things. If you can’t be honest about your daily activities when you’re looking for love, it doesn’t bode well.  Then there is the lying about intentions and "ever doing this before."  They’re claiming to be "just looking" or somehow not to want someone.  So dishonest.  Some make a big dishonest display of not being the type of person to do this or not ever having done this before.  I know of some cases where that is a lie.  If you open up every communication there with a lie, that is pathological.  I find these kind of people bewildering.  I don’t advertise that I’ve placed personal ads, but I don’t lie about it to OTHER people who have personal ads.  Very twisted. Another cheesy liefest is the activities people claim to do on a regular basis.  They also claim that they require someone as active as they are.  Fact: most people go to work, come home, watch TV, and eat fast food.  That’s what the majority of humans so.  If they do something other than that, it’s likely to be some cranky routine that another human being can’t partipate in.  Most of the walking men do is during courtship, or to please the woman after courtship, if she is that fortunate.  The majority of walks and hikes that I went on I dragged my male companions along, except during courtship when they willingly did anything I wanted them to do. Now I’m inactive due to health limitations, and I’m coming off as less than sparkly but the fact is, most of the guys there are lying about their activities. These guys all want a woman who is self-sufficient and so many other things.  They have long lists of demands, and not being needy or broken seems to be at the top of the list. Every single woman that I know over thirty five is broken and it usually has something to do with men or the man-created world.  And these guys want to lift out of this reality.  Maybe that’s why they are middle aged, divorced with minor children and advertising for love.  They seem like children. I feel very heavy, leaden and unflirted with. It feels like a brick wall out there.  Nothing.  Nothing.  Noone."

Response:

> You are telling a lot of absolutely > basic and disillusioning truths in what > you wrote below.

He just wants to whine. > Fact is that one can make a decent life > in this world and with available people > who are real and far from flawless.

Yups. Ugly people have happy lives etc. You can’t let personal ads get you down. The whole thing is that more guys message girls anyway. That’s the way of the world. You can stop whining and enjoy life. Everyone needs to whine but just stop being a pussy. "sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:de88e42f3dea6341f0b8f9e393e22940@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Who is flawless? Not me, not you, > no-one. I accept the weak point of others > as they make them lovable. > Mr. Perfect and Ms. Perfect are > illusions. > Why want a Prince Charming? He will lie to > you and pamper you with your own illusions. > After a while he turns out to be a womanizer > who knows all the buttons or he becomes > Mr. Ugly. > Prefer one of those flawed people who neither > flatter nor pamper you, who are just real, > and throw away your dreams of Mr. Perfect. > And hm, forgive him a stupid ad. That might > just be part of his flaws Show him > he need not play a silly role but can > be himself. > I know what I’m talking about, my dear > Hm, sorry if this was an advice you did > not want. This is just my good ol’ personal > style of responding. No offense. > Sumi > "I sent responses to about four personal ads where their stated > requirements pretty much fit me, if they were honest.  I have had no > responses.  Feels heavy, feel dull.  Over 3,000 have viewed my ad but > I’ve gotten very few responses.  That is horrible.  I get some interest > in person; none online.  They are all a bunch of "baggage handlers" > i.e., those guys who don’t want women with emotional baggage, as if > they don’t have that and haven’t caused it in others.  By the time > people reach middle age, as these guys have, everyone has it. > I was struck by how uniform and unlikely the wording of the ads were. > Everyone was LOVING living where we do, LUVING the outdoors and > whatnot.  It’s actually quite hard to live here because of certain > factors.  The behaviors and expressions of people that I meet on a > daily basis would not support the majority here living in continuous > joy.  This has become the new cheesy personal ad wording. > I remember over a decade ago I had another personal ad and at that > time, everyone was claiming that they were into "walks on the beach"  I > myself did walk on the beach and if these people were truthful, the > beach would have looked like freeway at rush hour.  Everyone was into > all kinds of outdoor activities, but when you would meet them and take > them hiking, for instance, they would complain that this got their > shoes dirty.  It’s sick, the cheesy imitative prose style that infests > these things. If you can’t be honest about your daily activities when > you’re looking for love, it doesn’t bode well.  Then there is the lying > about intentions and "ever doing this before."  They’re claiming to be > "just looking" or somehow not to want someone.  So dishonest.  Some > make a big dishonest display of not being the type of person to do this > or not ever having done this before.  I know of some cases where that > is a lie.  If you open up every communication there with a lie, that is > pathological.  I find these kind of people bewildering.  I don’t > advertise that I’ve placed personal ads, but I don’t lie about it to > OTHER people who have personal ads.  Very twisted. > Another cheesy liefest is the activities people claim to do on a > regular basis.  They also claim that they require someone as active as > they are.  Fact: most people go to work, come home, watch TV, and eat > fast food.  That’s what the majority of humans so.  If they do > something other than that, it’s likely to be some cranky routine that > another human being can’t partipate in.  Most of the walking men do is > during courtship, or to please the woman after courtship, if she is > that fortunate.  The majority of walks and hikes that I went on I > dragged my male companions along, except during courtship when they > willingly did anything I wanted them to do. > Now I’m inactive due to health limitations, and I’m coming off as less > than sparkly but the fact is, most of the guys there are lying about > their activities. > These guys all want a woman who is self-sufficient and so many other > things.  They have long lists of demands, and not being needy or broken > seems to be at the top of the list. Every single woman that I know over > thirty five is broken and it usually has something to do with men or > the man-created world.  And these guys want to lift out of this > reality.  Maybe that’s why they are middle aged, divorced with minor > children and advertising for love.  They seem like children. > I feel very heavy, leaden and unflirted with. It feels like a brick > wall out there.  Nothing.  Nothing.  Noone."

Response:

> Anon, you’re gay.  Now go to a gay site.

Clearly you must be slow. "Anon-e-Mouse" <anne_o_nymou…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1124315888.324622.121660@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

Response:

Filed under: Loneliness Depression

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