Darkfalz
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Misogynists pretty much have to be intelligent and perceptive, most of them anyway. If they aren’t? They don’t learn to hate women because they don’t notice the evils that women are doing, they don’t feel the injustice of it every day. Ignorance? That would be bliss. To not realise what a fool she made of you and how brutally and remorselessly she cut out your heart. But sadly I’m cursed with being smart enough to know the truth. And I will have my revenge.
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Must run. Did not forget you, just did not have time to wake the brian up yet. That was BRAIN, not Brian. (Sorry Brian…Did I wake you up…?:() (Yay!! Sleeping adavantage to me!! heheh:)) Back in a while, Chloe —
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huh "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:9vfj19$mpb$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Must run. > Did not forget you, just did not have time to wake the brian up yet. > That was BRAIN, not Brian. > (Sorry Brian…Did I wake you up…?:() (Yay!! Sleeping adavantage to me!! > heheh:)) > Back in a while, > Chloe > —
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Hi, Well, glad I did not wake *you* up at least!:) Sorry, wroite that after other replies where I then sort of made an inside refering to some other thread and post (sleep marathon and a reply from Brian). Where you been!? Chloe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - "Darkfalz" (darkf…@algo.sys) writes: > huh > "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > news:9vfj19$mpb$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >> Must run. >> Did not forget you, just did not have time to wake the brian up yet. >> That was BRAIN, not Brian. >> (Sorry Brian…Did I wake you up…?:() (Yay!! Sleeping adavantage to me!! >> heheh:)) >> Back in a while, >> Chloe >> —
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In article _wZS7.12314$VY4.95…@news.easynews.com, Darkfalz at darkf…@algo.sys wrote on 12/16/01 3:09: > huh
congrats, chloe! most intelligent thing he’s said to date! 
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Actually, I think that if some anger read as misdirected (…?;-) (is anger ever directed properly, since it is sort of by definition "losing it" when we get angry?) Drakfalz showed intelligence. Heck, I would not want to believe that tons of us in here replied to what they’d yet consider mental retards putting them down! Would not say much about *our* intelligence then, would it? 
. Nor about kindness and support… Therefore, the replies to Darkfalz sure tend to confirm my feeling that the man is intelligent, as much as he was/might still be angry. Belligerant, yes. Provoking, yes. Sometimes, really overdoing it, yes. But non intelligent? I do not think so. If we look at intelligence supposedly comporting seven abilities, namely: induction, deduction, memory, imagination, concentration, and two others I forget cause my memory ability fluctuates all the timeL:) Oh, analysis and another… (trying again I;d name five or six still, including the one or two missing ones, and missing two others that are yet here listed in the above six:)), I’d say he sure has imagination. Concentration. Memory for who he talked with, and for definitely being able to follow a train of thoughts for a long time, too. A definite deduction ability, but influenced in this situation by an induction ability that when angry, depressed, hurt, etc, can more often than not be faultive. Eg: we all at some point or another blame somethign we were hurt by or that did not go as we like or hoped on others, on the weather, on us, on whatever has nothign to do with why things turn out as they do, sometimes… I know you to be very intelligent yourself. Therefore I induct and deduct that your words below were meant as a friendly poke and humour towards me, and towards Darjfalz. I maybe should get a second coffee then and read it again when awake:). (Did bad on the sleeping marathon. Just to give others a chance to catch up, ya know;-). Slept only 6.5 hours last night, where I feel blergh today. So scuse my lack of….woudl humour be the seventh ability I can’t find this morning???L:) Is not, but I still can’t find either just the same:):) Blergh….Feeling all yuk… Hmm. So where am I now in that sleeping marathon for the last days? I was at 40 hours in the last 41;-), was I not?;-);-) I dunno. But I’ll have to check on my last post on that and add 6.5 to the total for whatever number of hours 48 plus twelve equals. I’ll let you deduct or induct the total for me… Spaced out myself…. Long time no see, Ethelred! And where were you…? Anything fun anywhere? Chloe ethelred the unworthy (anon-14…@anon.twwells.com) writes: > In article _wZS7.12314$VY4.95…@news.easynews.com, Darkfalz at > darkf…@algo.sys wrote on 12/16/01 3:09: >> huh > congrats, chloe! most intelligent thing he’s said to date! > — > For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: > h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message > ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator > ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
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In article 9vibcv$pn…@freenet9.carleton.ca, Eleonore Beaudoin at bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA wrote on 12/16/01 8:34: > Therefore, the replies to Darkfalz sure tend to confirm my feeling that the > man is intelligent, as much as he was/might still be angry.
an intelligent person looks inside for answers, not for ways to blame everyone but themselves for their problems. an intelligent person learns, grows and becomes more through experience, both good and bad. he shows no sign of doing any of the above. he behaves like a little spoiled boy. colin in the secret garden, perhaps, except colin was an intelligent boy and eventually did grow up. i’m not holding my breath. months later, it’s the same sorry out-of-key tune. hasn’t learned a thing and, worse yet, hasn’t tried to. anger can be productive, too. but the unintelligent person is stuck in his counter productivity. as in this case. — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
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ethelred the unworthy (anon-14…@anon.twwells.com) writes: > In article 9vibcv$pn…@freenet9.carleton.ca, Eleonore Beaudoin at > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA wrote on 12/16/01 8:34: >> Therefore, the replies to Darkfalz sure tend to confirm my feeling that the >> man is intelligent, as much as he was/might still be angry. > an intelligent person looks inside for answers, not for ways to blame > everyone but themselves for their problems. an intelligent person learns, > grows and becomes more through experience, both good and bad.
I agree. And I would say that he shows learnign about the bad experience as far as asl goes for the time being, which is already showing in his being less belligerant. If a support ng is for support for those feeling in need of it, would they all be fine and all, what woudl they ever need support for? I take it some of us need support to go on when vulnerably lonely or fearing to break down. Others, to just not get there, and/or others yet to just encourage people on a road they went through and can offer some suggestiosn, guidance or support about. Sometime,s by the time poeple get in a given ng, they might have been hurt elsewhere. Either by life or other ngs where they maybe seeked help and got judgemental feedback. Yeah, they might happen to make horrible ones themself. But finding some comments horrible statements does not make it so that suddenly, another can come and say things they would not normally. Yet again, being in a support ng, some newcomers here can not always know that soem are in bad shape and not needing the harsh put downs and generalizations… I can understand both issues, both sides, both ways. And yet think that a sort of transition time can be allowed with those who can maybe offer support and not be as hurt by harsh comments when that is the case, so that the ones arriving not only vulnerable but passed that point where they are crumbling down, or trying not to using the last thing they have left after trying everywhere else, maybe, maybe anger, maybe any other way it expresses itself, maybe just maybe, they then can voice the anger, find some ear, find soemoen that does not send them to hell for being past hurt, overflowing with pain on others when they initially probably meant none, and just got to have more and more pain until pain was all there was left to send out for a help signal….That then maybe a transitional time can be allowed , yeah, sure, with people giving their feedback as it is, which DOES help some sensitize themself to the fact there are other hurtign ones in here, or people that do nto find pleasant to be the subject of their misdirected anger, etc, but also, someready if and when they can to just not judge and condemn, no matter what the bad might have been according to 300 or 3 billions or just three persons. Cause if we do not allow that, just how are they ever supposed to find support? Both feedbacks are important. Yours, that of those who can not stand it, that of those who might feel like them a while, those who resent reading such stuff, etc, and somewhere, mebbee, just mebbee, when it can be, as it can not always by far, some that can just leave the bad be voiced and answer with soem input of neutral or positive. That alone woudl not work. But that plus the seing that beign treated nicely can feel nice, can happen, and that hey, in time, that and seign that they can maybe get to talk nicely too and make good friends, THAT mebbe can make a difference. Mebbee not. As it is such a little thing in a sea of lashing out everywhere… But if it is my little difference of nothing…. Well….Please don’t outcast me for it….? If we just want friends, there is social penpals. If we just want romance, there is alt romance and so many others. But when loneliness hurts up to fits of rage and anger, perhaps there should be a loneliness.frustration ng. But there is none to my knowledge. And I think that outcasting it might leave one of us one day outcasted from here just for breaking down or being on the verge of it, and telling the world what we then "think" we think, while we in fact say raw feelings of pain. Painful to read. Not pleasant to read. But reminding us all too what loneliness can feel like TOO in the cases where it goes that far, hurts that much, that all that is left is pain, and all one is ;left to offer is an overflow of pain… I do care for those people too. I do like Darkfalz. I do not see him just as a person that said horros. I see him as a man that hurts. Both in himself, and overflows it on others, but from hurting. So…I try and just offer here what I woudl like to be offer woudl the day ever, ever happen where I, not puttign myself above anyone else, might crash there. Who knows. Maybe that day, it woudl be the Darkfalz and the Unlucky of the world that coudl understand, not judge, and help me out, stop me from closing the door shut for good. None of us should think it is above us to ever break down that way. Or else, let’s face that we are thinking we are superior or soemthing. I’m just like the nbext guy or gal. Yeah, the oens with thick make-up too, even if we donlt wear it the same. Mayeb they too are just calling for help in their own way and saying "Someone love me!!!". Does not mean to marry them. Means to treat them like I;d like to then be treated. Not given asperatme pats and band aids with little funny characters to stick over it and shut up. Not a baseball bat on the head to shut up. Just…..someoen thinking I am a human being…. Not garbage. And may I be right in thinking that I woudl be intelligent to hope that such persons exist and woudl be there for me…Or you or anyone woudl the unthinkable ever happen. That’s how I see it all. Do to others what you’d like to be done for. And for what I see, it often brings shared friendships and caring. Often, very deep ones too, lasting longer than a few posts on asl. And for what I see, Darkfalz addressed me non agressively quite a few times, and Unlucky, who seemed to be also hurtign raw in his way in some moments, also softened his way of talking, gave indications of being quite HUMAN then…. So maybe I am crazy. God forgive me…I wish then there were more crazy ones in the world…. Crazy enough to be kind with me too…. he shows no > sign of doing any of the above. he behaves like a little spoiled boy. colin > in the secret garden, perhaps, except colin was an intelligent boy and > eventually did grow up. i’m not holding my breath. months later, it’s the > same sorry out-of-key tune. hasn’t learned a thing and, worse yet, hasn’t > tried to.
I hope that this will not make him think then that it is unavoidable and give up on his talking to me as he did. Sometimes angry, sometimes not. But talking to me, at least. More than many so nice poeple would do… > anger can be productive, too. but the unintelligent person is stuck in his > counter productivity. as in this case.
If it did not work in your case, is that intelligent counterproductivity then? Might not work this time aroudn either. Might take a million times. Might be too late since someoen gave him a simple "Hi! How are you!" without reading the story of his online last months or years or decades for that matter. Everyoen deserves an occasion to change if they are looked at as needed so by others. But do those others give that occasion? Hug, Ethelred. I read you five on five. I skipped the posts that were too rude, and barely read every now and then a line or two to see if anythign gave an opening to any other type of exchange. So I managed to spare myself the pain, after seing soem words hurt me, too, in their affirmations and horrible condemnation and judgements. But yet I saw them as those of soemoen hurting like mad. Not giving himself much of a chance either, out of despair of it beign any darn use "anymore". I know the depths of dark despair. Fine, I never got that angry that long that far. But heck, I went so deep after the assault to never think anyone above it, for I am one heck of a string person, and yet was thaaaaat close to a total collaspe and rage of decades, that only luck in the end made otherwise. Namely…runnign into some people that woudl not think that because I was that way when they saw me meant I’d always be. Poeple that did not both demand I walk, but woudl trip me over. Poeple that did not expect me to change when I had nothign at all to pull myself up anymore. Poeple that CARED *TAHT* much. I am just giving back. And I hope I remember the hard , so hard elarnt lesson of life and carign forever. And that woudl I break down and forget, some woudl remember for me… And help me remember, too…. Chloe > > > — > For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: > h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message > ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator > ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
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In article 9viemj$q…@freenet9.carleton.ca, Eleonore Beaudoin at bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA wrote on 12/16/01 9:30: > Sometime,s by the time poeple get in a given ng, they might have been hurt > elsewhere.
i’ve been hurt elsewhere, and i’ve never threatened to throw acid in someone’s face – or even considered it. as for less belligerent, i suspect he hopes it will get more people to read his posts if they sound more reasonable. however, rape and murder fantasies aren’t "reasonable." — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: h…@anon.twwells.com — for an automatically returned help message ad…@anon.twwells.com – for the service’s administrator ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator
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