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Hi Joe, and thanks for the reply. Unpredictability has been one of my problems for years and yesterday was certainly a case in point and frustrating to say the least. I did look at the chips and the amount of bread in the sandwich and made an estimate for the bolus(I have an insulin pump) and felt I had covered it. But the surprise (my post meal test was at 177 and I thought all was fine) was the 250+ a long time later. I do think my basal rate for the PM somehow needed to be higher yesterday and that was my frustration. You do not know, think you have covered the bases and then there is a surprise like that. I do agree with you that perhaps other factors enterd in. I had to take my mother to an appointment and that is always stressful, so perhaps that and not the food were at cause. who knows??? Do you have hypoglycemia unawareness? I do and it is really scary because you just don’t know, again, when you are low. No symptoms. Thankful again for the pump which forces me to test 8 or more times per24 hours. If not, I would be bottoming out more than I do. Testing picks it up. as for more protein than carbs, because of kidney damage, I am limited in the amount of protein I can eat. I do aim for 45 grams of carb for 3 meals and usually get by with no snacks at all. Ocaasionally, if low at bedtime, have 15 grams carb(yogurt or something equivalent to that). My meals are like carbon copies for pattern, size, and I find I can vary food within that basic plan enough to be fairly happy. It is the surprises with careful attention to the details…the chips for me subbed for the small apple I would usually have for lunch dessert, that make me nuts. I like Glucose tabs for lows because they are a bit more predictable than anything else for me and I don’t overdo with them and get a high rebound. I am sorry you are experiencing strange numbers with little or no explanation. It is so frustrating. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My usually predictable insulin needs went south for the winter as well. I can tell you that the longer you clock numbers above 200 the more of a reaction you are going to feel when you get into the 60’s. What didn’t bother you before, you will now have to prepare for and be ready with counter measures. Whatever it is that works for you with predictable results (Glucose Tablets, candy etc.). Sometimes it’s hard to resist peer pressure when dining out. You could have picked the turkey out of the roll and skipped the chips (Crisps/Frys) all together. Still, I don’t think a small handful of them and a bit of bread is going to effect you for this long. I suspect something else is afoot. I know it’s hard but giving in isn’t worth the upset to your routine. When I’m on a job we eat all our meals out. I go along with the crew but still carefully eat the same dull stuff. Three times a day and all at the cost of a constant ribbing from the men. Joe
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SNIP as for more protein than carbs, because of kidney damage, I am limited in the amount of protein I can eat. I do aim for 45 grams of carb for 3 meals and usually get by with no snacks at all.
Meant to say 45 grams at EACH meal! — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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I am sorry to sound ignorant but what is bolus is that a type of insulin. Loretta If life is such a bowl of Cherries, why am I aways in the pits: Erma Bombeck
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Loretta, do not feel bad! Up until 8 months ago, I did not know the meaning of bolus. It is a word used in insulin pumping to mean an amount of insulin to cover a meal/food. Basal is the small amount that is continuously programmed to pump 24 hours a day and bolus the larger amount to cover food eaten. Hope that explains it. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am sorry to sound ignorant but what is bolus is that a type of insulin. Loretta If life is such a bowl of Cherries, why am I aways in the pits: Erma Bombeck
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OOPS! No aplogies. I was so serious about the problem, I failed to see the humor. I also tend to be a bit on the literal side. (guess you noticed that right away!) Anyway, counting carbs is part of using the pump and carbs are part of my meal plan and , and, and!!! (As I blushingly end my explanation!) I shall lighten up! — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am so sorry Joanne, I was having a bit of fun. Like in who gets to eat those anymore 
My apologies, we call them chips in Oz too. My apologies. Joanne, what are chips and bread? Chips are potato chips. Do you mean "breast"???? I think so. Well, it is the white meat part of the turkey. It was a small portion of a large sandwich shared with others…you know, a long type of sandwich? It had lettuce and peppers and tomatoes on it, too.
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Joanne, I feel smarter again. Thanks for the information on bolus. Loretta If life is such a bowl of Cherries, why am I aways in the pits: Erma Bombeck
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LOL I really didn’t know except it was a larger dose than normal. I looked it up and that was all I could find. Wonder why it did say Intravenous though? Even I know better than that. Have to write Websters now. Di
well it’s a good thing for me that it isn’t intravenous, or I’d be in REALLY big trouble…. My mom was never worried that I was going to become a heroin addict. She knew I’d NEVER be able to inject it. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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Oh, yes, Joanne, I feel exactly as you do so much of the time. It finally works itself out, but darn it, it sneaks up on me again. Glad you posted your frustrations–I feel like I’m not alone either…Debbie, T1, 40y..
Thanks for saying it, too, Debbie. Yes, it does have that kind of pattern. It does feel a lot better when you don’t feel alone with it. When I was on MDI, no matter how hard I worked at it, my rewards were never what I deserved. At least with pumping, I am better off, so I am thankful for that. Just pick up and keep on pushing along. Sometimes I have to force myself to look straight on at the meter! Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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LOL I really didn’t know except it was a larger dose than normal. I looked it up and that was all I could find. Wonder why it did say Intravenous though? Even I know better than that. Have to write Websters now. Di — X-No-Archive:Yes The soul would have no rainbows If the eyes had no tears. Visit http://www.diabeticnet.com and http://sweetblood.org/
: : Websters Dictionary : : 2 : a dose of a substance (as a drug) that is administered intravenously; : specifically : a large dose given intravenously so that the desired : therapeutic concentration in the blood is reached rapidly : : hmmmmmm in that case, we pumpers and the manufacturers are using the : word incorrectly! Cuz it sure isn’t intravenous! Simply : subcutaneous. : : — : dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! : "I’d rather be loved by only me, : than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn : "Never give up", Winston Churchill : www.mindspring.com/~wombn : On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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SNIP It’s enough to drive a person NUTS. You can say that again. I know my site is probably just fine, I know the Humalog is good. It is simply that sometimes I am too fearful of putting myself on my rear and perhaps should go that extra 2 or 3 tenths of a unit. amazing the way a tiny amount can either break the bank or come up short. You know, I am very consistent about meals too. The same quantity, the same pattern. It should be so predictable, but isn’t! I feel less alone, so thanks for chiming in.
Oh, yes, Joanne, I feel exactly as you do so much of the time. It finally works itself out, but darn it, it sneaks up on me again. Glad you posted your frustrations–I feel like I’m not alone either…Debbie, T1, 40y..
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Websters Dictionary 2 : a dose of a substance (as a drug) that is administered intravenously; specifically : a large dose given intravenously so that the desired therapeutic concentration in the blood is reached rapidly
hmmmmmm in that case, we pumpers and the manufacturers are using the word incorrectly! Cuz it sure isn’t intravenous! Simply subcutaneous. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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Websters Dictionary 2 : a dose of a substance (as a drug) that is administered intravenously; specifically : a large dose given intravenously so that the desired therapeutic concentration in the blood is reached rapidly — X-No-Archive:Yes The soul would have no rainbows If the eyes had no tears. Visit http://www.diabeticnet.com and http://sweetblood.org/
: I am sorry to sound ignorant but what is bolus is that a type of : insulin. : : Loretta : : If life is such a bowl of Cherries, why am I aways in the pits: Erma : Bombeck :
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but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips Joanne, what are chips and bread?
chips are potato chips. Not UK-type potato chips, which we call French Fries. They’re wafer-thin baked or deep-fried potato slices, highly salted and high fat (usually). I looked but I couldn’t find a clear picture of a potato chip. darnit. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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My usually predictable insulin needs went south for the winter as well. I can tell you that the longer you clock numbers above 200 the more of a reaction you are going to feel when you get into the 60’s. What didn’t bother you before, you will now have to prepare for and be ready with counter measures. Whatever it is that works for you with predictable results (Glucose Tablets, candy etc.). Sometimes it’s hard to resist peer pressure when dining out. You could have picked the turkey out of the roll and skipped the chips (Crisps/Frys) all together. Still, I don’t think a small handful of them and a bit of bread is going to effect you for this long. I suspect something else is afoot. I know it’s hard but giving in isn’t worth the upset to your routine. When I’m on a job we eat all our meals out. I go along with the crew but still carefully eat the same dull stuff. Three times a day and all at the cost of a constant ribbing from the men. Joe
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips Joanne, what are chips and bread? chips are potato chips. Not UK-type potato chips, which we call French Fries. They’re wafer-thin baked or deep-fried potato slices, highly salted and high fat (usually). I looked but I couldn’t find a clear picture of a potato chip. darnit. http://www.fritolay.com/consumer.html Next to the red pepper on the recipes page
Ya know, that’s the exact website I went to. I just wasn’t happy with their pics. Being too picky I guess. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips Joanne, what are chips and bread? chips are potato chips. Not UK-type potato chips, which we call French Fries. They’re wafer-thin baked or deep-fried potato slices, highly salted and high fat (usually). I looked but I couldn’t find a clear picture of a potato chip. darnit.
http://www.fritolay.com/consumer.html Next to the red pepper on the recipes page Carol
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Thank you Joanne and I will be here anytime you need me. I am glad I helped. It does get so lonely sometimes when your numbers are high and out of whack and this group has pulled me through so many times. I just hope I can make a dent in paying back all the kindness that has been shown to me over the past year. You just email me anytime and tell me off or just talk as long as it helps you to get off your heart the worry and loneliness you feel at times. Love Di — X-No-Archive:Yes The soul would have no rainbows If the eyes had no tears. Visit http://www.diabeticnet.com and http://sweetblood.org/
: SNIP : Hang in there and someone who does know will : help you. I am very sorry I couldn’t. : Di : : : But you did. somehow, I was just tired of feeling alone with the problem. : Thanks for the kindness. I appreciate it and it helps. : : : : : — : Joanne : Christmas in historic Wickford, RI : http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html : My Home Page : Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images : http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/ : : : :
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SNIP It’s enough to drive a person NUTS.
You can say that again. I know my site is probably just fine, I know the Humalog is good. It is simply that sometimes I am too fearful of putting myself on my rear and perhaps should go that extra 2 or 3 tenths of a unit. amazing the way a tiny amount can either break the bank or come up short. You know, I am very consistent about meals too. The same quantity, the same pattern. It should be so predictable, but isn’t! I feel less alone, so thanks for chiming in. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips Joanne, what are chips and bread?
Chips are potato chips. Do you mean "breast"???? I think so. Well, it is the white meat part of the turkey. It was a small portion of a large sandwich shared with others…you know, a long type of sandwich? It had lettuce and peppers and tomatoes on it, too. Swings have always been my problem, even before the pump. I worked so hard at trying to accomodate, but the pump was the best answer. And, it is infinitely better than MDI. but I still continue the swings, easier to control now. I tested after writing the first message and in 15 or 20 minutes(while the dinner ruined itself, waiting) it had gone down to 195. It is possible that the next thing I know I could be at 60. Sorry about your swings, I don’t have them but plenty here have/do.
Thanks, I am sure many do, just felt frustrated at that moment. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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SNIP Hang in there and someone who does know will help you. I am very sorry I couldn’t. Di
But you did. somehow, I was just tired of feeling alone with the problem. Thanks for the kindness. I appreciate it and it helps. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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I wonder if anyone else feels as I do, has these terrible swings. I read all that you guys write, yet feel so alone with this.
oh you’re definitely not alone!!!!! I’m currently going through the same struggle RIGHT NOW. What I did last week is not working this week. grrrr. I’m thinking it’s a female hormone thing…. (week before period)… OR a "gone bad humalog" thing… OR a bad infusion site thing…. Don’t know yet which. If I decide to go ahead and change my site in the next couple of hours, I’ll be opening a new bottle, which mean I won’t be able to know if it’s the site or the humalog. But I may be able to tell if it’s a monthly hormone thing. It’s enough to drive a person NUTS. — dx as Type 1 in Mar 00, joyfully pumpin’ since October! "I’d rather be loved by only me, than create a facade and be loved by no one." — wombn "Never give up", Winston Churchill www.mindspring.com/~wombn On ANY "advice" I give here: I expect you to research it and confirm it independently
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I am so sorry Joanne, I was having a bit of fun. Like in who gets to eat those anymore My apologies, we call them chips in Oz too. My apologies. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Joanne, what are chips and bread? Chips are potato chips. Do you mean "breast"???? I think so. Well, it is the white meat part of the turkey. It was a small portion of a large sandwich shared with others…you know, a long type of sandwich? It had lettuce and peppers and tomatoes on it, too.
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Joanne I am a type two and not on insulin like you are and I can only imagine the horror you go through with this. I don’t know how type 1’s do it as I don’t know if I could. I am like you though in one way, I don’t know when I am low unless I test and the high numbers to me are unacceptable. I wish I could help more but I don’t know anything about insulin and their doses but I just wanted you to know that you are not alone and I have a big shoulder should you ever need the strength. Hang in there and someone who does know will help you. I am very sorry I couldn’t. Di — X-No-Archive:Yes The soul would have no rainbows If the eyes had no tears. Visit http://www.diabeticnet.com and http://sweetblood.org/ : but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a : small turkey breast sandwich with some chips for which I had bolused to : cover. (was a working kind of lunch). 2 hours after lunch I was at 177. : Took another small bolus to cover that. Did errands. Here I am with lunch : 5 or 6 hours ago, dinner ready and I am at 254. I guess it is time to : readjust the PM basal? This is it, though. If I am not careful, even a : tenth of a unit can mean the difference between too high and too low. It is : a constant balancing act. : : It is figuring what you think will be right but always backing up a little : bit or jumping up a little bit and many times missing the target. Just : when I think I have something figured out, it isn’t what I thought. : : I just now figured a high sugar bolus, added to the dinner bolus ( 2.5 u : more than what I usually take) and waiting a little bit before eating to let : it work. Just feel a bit frustrated with it lately. : : This is rare! I am actually saying"Hey, you all, I am having a problem : here!" I cannot bear to see the high numbers, 200’s, 300’s, 400’s. Seen : too many already. Although my family and doctor get really upset about : lows, I like them better than highs. I get to 35 or 40 without even : feeling it. Don’t even know. 29 one morning and I did not even know until : I tested. I know they are dangerous, but, I cannot stand the big numbers at : all anymore. : : I wonder if anyone else feels as I do, has these terrible swings. I read : all that you guys write, yet feel so alone with this. : : — : Joanne : Christmas in historic Wickford, RI : http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html : My Home Page : Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images : http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/ : : : :
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but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips
Joanne, what are chips and bread? Sorry about your swings, I don’t have them but plenty here have/do.
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but recently I have been missing by a mile. Today is the last straw. Had a small turkey breast sandwich with some chips for which I had bolused to cover. (was a working kind of lunch). 2 hours after lunch I was at 177. Took another small bolus to cover that. Did errands. Here I am with lunch 5 or 6 hours ago, dinner ready and I am at 254. I guess it is time to readjust the PM basal? This is it, though. If I am not careful, even a tenth of a unit can mean the difference between too high and too low. It is a constant balancing act. It is figuring what you think will be right but always backing up a little bit or jumping up a little bit and many times missing the target. Just when I think I have something figured out, it isn’t what I thought. I just now figured a high sugar bolus, added to the dinner bolus ( 2.5 u more than what I usually take) and waiting a little bit before eating to let it work. Just feel a bit frustrated with it lately. This is rare! I am actually saying"Hey, you all, I am having a problem here!" I cannot bear to see the high numbers, 200’s, 300’s, 400’s. Seen too many already. Although my family and doctor get really upset about lows, I like them better than highs. I get to 35 or 40 without even feeling it. Don’t even know. 29 one morning and I did not even know until I tested. I know they are dangerous, but, I cannot stand the big numbers at all anymore. I wonder if anyone else feels as I do, has these terrible swings. I read all that you guys write, yet feel so alone with this. — Joanne Christmas in historic Wickford, RI http://members.nbci.com/rjoanna/Wickford/wickintro.html My Home Page Painter, Poser, Expression, WET Images, MidC Images http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/
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