I had a date.
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"pumpkin_head" <umpkin_head060…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bYi%9.903$0N1.86632@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net… > > I don’t think any > > woman is going to care that much how well you dance:) > hmm….. What if a man doesn’t like to dance at all? (Like me) > Women, would that bother you?
*thinking seriously* It wouldn’t bother me that he *couldn’t* dance. It would bother me that he *wouldn’t* dance. Trying gains high respect points, especially if you tell beforehand you don’t know how. This way other people know the extent of your effort.
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"LIS" <Lisaster…@blerg.com> wrote in message
news:b1lt45$j66$05$1@news.t-online.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "pumpkin_head" <umpkin_head060…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:bYi%9.903$0N1.86632@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net… > > > I don’t think any > > > woman is going to care that much how well you dance:) > > hmm….. What if a man doesn’t like to dance at all? (Like me) > > Women, would that bother you? > *thinking seriously* > It wouldn’t bother me that he *couldn’t* dance. > It would bother me that he *wouldn’t* dance. > Trying gains high respect points, especially if you tell beforehand you > don’t know how. This way other people know the extent of your effort.
I only go as far as tapping my foot.
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"pumpkin_head" <umpkin_head060…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8Vu%9.470$8d6.156718@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "LIS" <Lisaster…@blerg.com> wrote in message > news:b1lt45$j66$05$1@news.t-online.com… > > "pumpkin_head" <umpkin_head060…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:bYi%9.903$0N1.86632@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net… > > > > I don’t think any > > > > woman is going to care that much how well you dance:) > > > hmm….. What if a man doesn’t like to dance at all? (Like me) > > > Women, would that bother you? > > *thinking seriously* > > It wouldn’t bother me that he *couldn’t* dance. > > It would bother me that he *wouldn’t* dance. > > Trying gains high respect points, especially if you tell beforehand you > > don’t know how. This way other people know the extent of your effort. > I only go as far as tapping my foot.
That counts. In time, a week, clap. Wait a couple months, then jiggle something in a rythmic manner. Before you know it, you’re John Travolta.
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>> alright, details… lets have em. What’s she like? BTW, I’m really >happy for you. >Given his disgust for the lusciously good-looking Miami women, could be >she’s ugly as a stump. :D >Go Trance!
You never know. My tastes are all over the map. But it’s true, many of the women around here who are universally judged to be all exotic-looking and hot, I’m not really into. I’ve always liked the apple-pie, Anytown, USA look in a girl. She must not be ugly as a stump, though, because she was waiting for me outside the club bathroom…..and just that short time I was in there, as I was coming out, there were two seperate pickup attempts on her. LOL she’s kind of a short girl, so I think every short guy in the club was drooling over her. I found it rather amusing. I go in the bathroom for one minute and the short guys pounce. haha for once I was seeing it on the other side of the coin. It feels so much better and more natural to be in the club with a woman, rather than being just another dude hoping to get the attention of a girl. That club really sucks for meeting women, it’s a sausage factory full of aggressive men. As I was coming out, there was even a GIRL asking her to dance with her short-guy male friend! When I was waiting outside the bathroom for her, no one pounced on me. LOL but anyway, the whole night in the club, I was thinking "shit, *this* is more like it"…….don’t be so quick to congratulate me, though. There *have* been other times I thought a girl was into me, only to have her COMPLETELY flake out shortly thereafter. That crap still stings, and makes me wary.
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>I feel really stupid giving someone advice, but here goes anyway. I’d keep it >casual – but let her know you are interested. Call her up and let her know >you >had a good time and say something like ‘I hope we can go out again.’ Just to >see >how she responds. Since I don’t know anything about this girl, I’d think that >wanting to go for a long walk after your date is a good sign. Because I >wouldn’t >suggest something like that unless I wanted to continue being with the >person. >It’s hard for me to say because I’ve always been around pushy and aggresive >men. >I think shy men are afraid of me. So maybe I’m full of shit on this. >But I’d say it at least looks positive. >>Good luck
Thanks. Unfortunately now the self-doubt has crept in. It’s very difficult for me to overturn the girls-don’t-really-like-me worldview. I am a nervous wreck here today. It must be said, when I’m all lonely with no hope of meeting anyone, I never feel anxious or otherwise bothered. Perhaps that’s why I naturally gravitate "there," it’s the place where my nervous system feels most comfortable. Maybe I’m just a slave to the desires of my central nervous system. Then of course I start feeling all bitter and lonely in my head, but it’s a *comfortable* bitterness/loneliness. I wish I could just settle into that magic area where we’re dating, I know for sure she likes me, etc. Most people crave excitement/drama, I seem to crave comfort. That said, I *have* to call at some point today…….if I fuck up on the phone, I fuck up, I guess. If I become all avoidant, I’ll be fucking up anyway, I suppose. This just kills me. I’m shy and introverted, but I do think I have a very specific telephone phobia on top of that. It gets dulled somewhat by being at work where the phone rings, and also where I have to pick up the phone and call vendors on a regular basis, but that’s a little easier to deal with, because I know people are calling me for a specific purpose. They aren’t just calling me to have a free-form conversation, and I’m certainly not calling them for that purpose either. Just calling for the purpose of calling scares the living shit out of me. But I have to do it.
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>Sorry to butt in, but I disagree. The date sounds wonderful, just the >appropriate amount of the physical..it’s no fun being pawed and >slobbered on..and a man who can hold his own on the dance floor? It >just don’t get better than that. Congratulations.
Thank you for the vote of confidence. I did well, surprisingly well. I’m not ready to anoint myself as this big ladies’ man, but I think a good time was had by all. Unfortunately, my post-date phone performance (or lack thereof) has been less than admirable, and that’s an understatement. Too much time to think. I want to hear stories from guys about the phone aspect of dating. How do you manage it? I’m probably more afraid of the phone than a lot of guys here, but I want to hear about some experiences. Seems strange that I’m far more afraid of a simple phone convo than an actual date spanning several hours, but that is the case.
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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030202133103.05885.00000361@mb-fv.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> alright, details… lets have em. What’s she like? BTW, I’m really > >happy for you. > >Given his disgust for the lusciously good-looking Miami women, could be > >she’s ugly as a stump. :D > >Go Trance! > You never know. My tastes are all over the map. But it’s true, many of the > women around here who are universally judged to be all exotic-looking and hot, > I’m not really into. I’ve always liked the apple-pie, Anytown, USA look in a > girl. She must not be ugly as a stump, though, because she was waiting for me > outside the club bathroom…..and just that short time I was in there, as I was > coming out, there were two seperate pickup attempts on her. LOL
Wellwellwell then. :) I’m getting more interested by the minute. Are you going to post the gory details of all your dates or what? I certainly hope so. Vicarious romaynce is guud. > she’s kind of a > short girl, so I think every short guy in the club was drooling over her. I > found it rather amusing. I go in the bathroom for one minute and the short guys > pounce. haha
*LOL!* Graphic imagery! :D **Mel Brooks History of the World… "Stand back! Give her air! Help the Queen up, she’s been so good to all of us."** > for once I was seeing it on the other side of the coin. It feels > so much better and more natural to be in the club with a woman, rather than > being just another dude hoping to get the attention of a girl. That club really > sucks for meeting women, it’s a sausage factory full of aggressive men. As I > was coming out, there was even a GIRL asking her to dance with her short-guy > male friend!
Oooo, kinky. Threesomes. :) > When I was waiting outside the bathroom for her, no one pounced on me. LOL
Aw Trance, stop it. If I’d a been there I’d a pounced on you. There would’ve been very little left, but I’d a pounced nonetheless. :) > but > anyway, the whole night in the club, I was thinking "shit, *this* is more like > it"…….don’t be so quick to congratulate me, though. There *have* been other > times I thought a girl was into me, only to have her COMPLETELY flake out > shortly thereafter. That crap still stings, and makes me wary.
Well, keep us posted. And good luck.
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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030202161102.04893.00000050@mb-ce.aol.com… > >On these calls, you’re supposed to say "hi. Whatcha doin’? I called > >because I was thinking of you and your great smile, couldn’t stop, and > >thought I’d call and say: hi. Whatcha doin’?" :) Chicks love that stuff. > Oh my god, I don’t think I could pull that off, Lisa. But I will try to take > this advice, to some extent.
You kissed her! You were brave enough to lay some lip on her, you can tell her she has a pretty smile, no problem. I have faith in you. You’ll be thinking "wow, what hot bazongas you have, my dear", but tell her she has a pretty smile anyway. :D
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> I don’t think any > woman is going to care that much how well you dance:)
hmm….. What if a man doesn’t like to dance at all? (Like me) Women, would that bother you?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in message <news:20030202133103.05885.00000361@mb-fv.aol.com>… > >> alright, details… lets have em. What’s she like? BTW, I’m really > >happy for you. > >Given his disgust for the lusciously good-looking Miami women, could be > >she’s ugly as a stump. :D > >Go Trance! > You never know. My tastes are all over the map. But it’s true, many of the > women around here who are universally judged to be all exotic-looking and hot, > I’m not really into. I’ve always liked the apple-pie, Anytown, USA look in a > girl. She must not be ugly as a stump, though, because she was waiting for me > outside the club bathroom…..and just that short time I was in there, as I was > coming out, there were two seperate pickup attempts on her. LOL she’s kind of a > short girl, so I think every short guy in the club was drooling over her. I > found it rather amusing. I go in the bathroom for one minute and the short guys > pounce. haha for once I was seeing it on the other side of the coin. It feels > so much better and more natural to be in the club with a woman, rather than > being just another dude hoping to get the attention of a girl.
Ironically, those guys still have an edge on you because the next time *you* are in their situation, you probably will not approach a girl you are attracted to, while they would.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in message <news:20030202160613.04893.00000049@mb-ce.aol.com>… > >I feel really stupid giving someone advice, but here goes anyway. I’d keep it > >casual – but let her know you are interested. Call her up and let her know > >you > >had a good time and say something like ‘I hope we can go out again.’ Just to > >see > >how she responds. Since I don’t know anything about this girl, I’d think that > >wanting to go for a long walk after your date is a good sign. Because I > >wouldn’t > >suggest something like that unless I wanted to continue being with the > >person. > >It’s hard for me to say because I’ve always been around pushy and aggresive > >men. > >I think shy men are afraid of me. So maybe I’m full of shit on this. > >But I’d say it at least looks positive. > >>Good luck > Thanks. Unfortunately now the self-doubt has crept in. It’s very difficult for > me to overturn the girls-don’t-really-like-me worldview. I am a nervous wreck > here today. It must be said, when I’m all lonely with no hope of meeting > anyone, I never feel anxious or otherwise bothered. Perhaps that’s why I > naturally gravitate "there," it’s the place where my nervous system feels most > comfortable. Maybe I’m just a slave to the desires of my central nervous > system. Then of course I start feeling all bitter and lonely in my head, but > it’s a *comfortable* bitterness/loneliness. I wish I could just settle into > that magic area where we’re dating, I know for sure she likes me, etc. Most > people crave excitement/drama, I seem to crave comfort. > That said, I *have* to call at some point today…….if I fuck up on the > phone, I fuck up, I guess. If I become all avoidant, I’ll be fucking up anyway, > I suppose. This just kills me. I’m shy and introverted, but I do think I have a > very specific telephone phobia on top of that. It gets dulled somewhat by being > at work where the phone rings, and also where I have to pick up the phone and > call vendors on a regular basis, but that’s a little easier to deal with, > because I know people are calling me for a specific purpose. They aren’t just > calling me to have a free-form conversation, and I’m certainly not calling them > for that purpose either. Just calling for the purpose of calling scares the > living shit out of me. But I have to do it.
Why don’t you just wait and talk to her at work? I guess you’re still avoiding the inevitable by not calling her, so maybe that won’t work. I always hate talking to girls on the phone, I’m really bad at it. The last girl I dated even said to me "We don’t have a good phone relationship"- LOL, only a girl would say something like that. Anyway, I was telling this hot girl I know about not being a good phone-talker and she said to me "A lot of guys are like that. I’ve dated guys who would not talk on the phone. They would just call me and say ‘Meet me and such-and-such place or whatever’, but they wouldn’t have an extended phone conversation." My opinion is that you have to learn to do. The big key I guess is make sure you plan out things you’re going to talk about, and half of the time should be you talking about yourself.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -William P <d…@email.me> wrote in message <news:Xns9316BDD7D59D2williamp@207.35.177.134>… > trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in > news:20030201125311.19847.00000372@mb-cj.aol.com: > > Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post > > this. Given my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of > > woman-luck over the years, I feel I owe it to the group to post when > > there’s a small ray of light. > > So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least > > I think it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I > > used to have back when I first got on the Internet. First of all it > > wasn’t an online meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, > > from work. We were chatting, and amidst what I hope was adequate > > flirtation on my part (and what I hope was some flirtation on her > > part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d never been > > to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long story > > short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when > > AOL so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I > > thought it was a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the > > deep dark house music is not her thing (I think I gave a decent > > account of myself on the dancefloor here), and then we went for a long > > walk, even though she was not prepared to do so with her bad walking > > shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a good sport about > > it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol I > > thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of > > normal casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I > > crave deeply and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, > > walking arm in arm, arm around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after > > walking a few miles in total, so I took her back, walked her to her > > door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed her on the side of her > > face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a little more, but > > I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and leaving > > her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little > > physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and > > of itself – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my > > interest clear enough that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at > > her door to get the point across. I felt as if I was being considered > > as a *real date*, not the usual indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not > > keeping me at arm’s length crap I historically encounter with girls. > > I’ve always said that that is all I ask for – a fair chance. She was > > open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose I should call > > her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving 80 > > miles up the coast for a show. > Sounds great! Nice job getting some physical things happening. I’ve had > dates where there was literally no physical contact. I don’t think any > woman is going to care that much how well you dance:)
Sorry to butt in, but I disagree. The date sounds wonderful, just the appropriate amount of the physical..it’s no fun being pawed and slobbered on..and a man who can hold his own on the dance floor? It just don’t get better than that. Congratulations.
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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030201125311.19847.00000372@mb-cj.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given > my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I > feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. > So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think > it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back > when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online > meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, > and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was > some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d > never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long > story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL > so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was > a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is > not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor > here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do > so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a > good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol > I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal > casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply > and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm > around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I > took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed > her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a > little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and > leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little > physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself > – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough > that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point > across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual > indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I > historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for > – a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose > I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving > 80 miles up the coast for a show.
wow. Sounds good so far. I wish you success. :o)
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>My opinion is that you >have to learn to do. The big key I guess is make sure you plan out >things you’re going to talk about, and half of the time should be you >talking about yourself.
Talking about myself is just something I am *not* good at. I don’t know if it’s just because I have little to talk about, or because when I say something, I use the bare minimum of words. Whatever the reason, I am extremely poor at talking about myself. How do you do it? Do girls really give a rat’s ass about the minutiae of my day? I did NOTHING today. Well, nothing I would consider out of the ordinary or story-worthy, at any rate. I went for a jog, went to the bookstore, listened to a lot of music at home, and vacuumed my car. There. How in the bloody hell I’m supposed to stretch that in conversation is beyond my wildest dreams.
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celaine…@yahoo.com (Celaine) wrote in news:df0b4c3a.0302021922.67858a2f@posting.google.com: >> > Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving 80 miles up the coast for >> > a show. >> Sounds great! Nice job getting some physical things happening. I’ve >> had dates where there was literally no physical contact. I don’t >> think any woman is going to care that much how well you dance:) > Sorry to butt in, but I disagree. The date sounds wonderful, just the > appropriate amount of the physical..it’s no fun being pawed and > slobbered on..and a man who can hold his own on the dance floor? It > just don’t get better than that. Congratulations.
But who do you think you are to disagree with me on this… oh!:)
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>On these calls, you’re supposed to say "hi. Whatcha doin’? I called >because I was thinking of you and your great smile, couldn’t stop, and >thought I’d call and say: hi. Whatcha doin’?" :) Chicks love that stuff.
Oh my god, I don’t think I could pull that off, Lisa. But I will try to take this advice, to some extent.
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trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in news:20030201125311.19847.00000372@mb-cj.aol.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post > this. Given my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of > woman-luck over the years, I feel I owe it to the group to post when > there’s a small ray of light. > So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least > I think it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I > used to have back when I first got on the Internet. First of all it > wasn’t an online meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, > from work. We were chatting, and amidst what I hope was adequate > flirtation on my part (and what I hope was some flirtation on her > part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d never been > to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long story > short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when > AOL so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I > thought it was a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the > deep dark house music is not her thing (I think I gave a decent > account of myself on the dancefloor here), and then we went for a long > walk, even though she was not prepared to do so with her bad walking > shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a good sport about > it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol I > thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of > normal casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I > crave deeply and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, > walking arm in arm, arm around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after > walking a few miles in total, so I took her back, walked her to her > door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed her on the side of her > face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a little more, but > I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and leaving > her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little > physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and > of itself – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my > interest clear enough that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at > her door to get the point across. I felt as if I was being considered > as a *real date*, not the usual indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not > keeping me at arm’s length crap I historically encounter with girls. > I’ve always said that that is all I ask for – a fair chance. She was > open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose I should call > her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving 80 > miles up the coast for a show.
Sounds great! Nice job getting some physical things happening. I’ve had dates where there was literally no physical contact. I don’t think any woman is going to care that much how well you dance:)
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"red knuckles" <czlowiek…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4e3ae57.0302020916.55faa3a7@posting.google.com… > alright, details… lets have em. What’s she like? BTW, I’m really
happy for you. Given his disgust for the lusciously good-looking Miami women, could be she’s ugly as a stump. :D Go Trance!
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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030202111015.06563.00000449@mb-fh.aol.com… > >Great Trance!!! > >I would call her tomorrow to give her and yourself one day to think about > >things..and at the same time not look so clingy > OK, so I should call at some point today. *This* is the dangerous territory, > where I could either screw things up or she could flake. I don’t have a problem > calling when there’s a direct reason to call, but these interim "maintenance > calls" are what I really suck ass at. These are the calls I get nervous
making. Maintenance calls. Heh. :) On these calls, you’re supposed to say "hi. Whatcha doin’? I called because I was thinking of you and your great smile, couldn’t stop, and thought I’d call and say: hi. Whatcha doin’?" :) Chicks love that stuff.
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>Great Trance!!! >I would call her tomorrow to give her and yourself one day to think about >things..and at the same time not look so clingy
OK, so I should call at some point today. *This* is the dangerous territory, where I could either screw things up or she could flake. I don’t have a problem calling when there’s a direct reason to call, but these interim "maintenance calls" are what I really suck ass at. These are the calls I get nervous making.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in message <news:20030201125311.19847.00000372@mb-cj.aol.com>… > Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given > my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I > feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. > So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think > it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back > when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online > meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, > and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was > some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d > never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long > story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL > so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was > a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is > not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor > here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do > so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a > good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol > I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal > casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply > and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm > around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I > took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed > her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a > little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and > leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little > physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself > – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough > that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point > across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual > indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I > historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for > – a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose > I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving > 80 miles up the coast for a show.
alright, details… lets have em. What’s she like? BTW, I’m really happy for you.
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In article <20030201125311.19847.00000…@mb-cj.aol.com>, Trance909 says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given >my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I >feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. >So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think >it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back >when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online >meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, >and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was >some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d >never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long >story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL >so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was >a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is >not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor >here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do >so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a >good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol >I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal >casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply >and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm >around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I >took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed >her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a >little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and >leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little >physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself >- I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough >that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point >across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual >indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I >historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for >- a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose >I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving >80 miles up the coast for a show.
I feel really stupid giving someone advice, but here goes anyway. I’d keep it casual – but let her know you are interested. Call her up and let her know you had a good time and say something like ‘I hope we can go out again.’ Just to see how she responds. Since I don’t know anything about this girl, I’d think that wanting to go for a long walk after your date is a good sign. Because I wouldn’t suggest something like that unless I wanted to continue being with the person. It’s hard for me to say because I’ve always been around pushy and aggresive men. I think shy men are afraid of me. So maybe I’m full of shit on this. But I’d say it at least looks positive. Good luck zoe
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On 01 Feb 2003 17:53:11 GMT, trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given >my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I >feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. >So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think >it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back >when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online >meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, >and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was >some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d >never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long >story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL >so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was >a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is >not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor >here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do >so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a >good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol >I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal >casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply >and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm >around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I >took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed >her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a >little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and >leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little >physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself >- I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough >that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point >across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual >indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I >historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for >- a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose >I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving >80 miles up the coast for a show.
Congratulations on your date! Glad you had a good time. I would wait a day and call her for another date. =)
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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030201125311.19847.00000372@mb-cj.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given > my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I > feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. > So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think > it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back > when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online > meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, > and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was > some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d > never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long > story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL > so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was > a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is > not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor > here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do > so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a > good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol > I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal > casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply > and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm > around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I > took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed > her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a > little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and > leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little > physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself > – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough > that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point > across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual > indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I > historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for > – a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose > I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving > 80 miles up the coast for a show.
Great Trance!!! I would call her tomorrow to give her and yourself one day to think about things..and at the same time not look so clingy
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Not to make light of the day’s events, but I should probably post this. Given my deep complaining and bitterness over my lack of woman-luck over the years, I feel I owe it to the group to post when there’s a small ray of light. So I had a date last night. And yes, it was a bonafide date (at least I think it was?), not some random half-assed meeting like the kind I used to have back when I first got on the Internet. First of all it wasn’t an online meeting…..it was actually a new girl, part-time, from work. We were chatting, and amidst what I hope was adequate flirtation on my part (and what I hope was some flirtation on her part), she mentioned she had a ticket to this club she’d never been to. So I asked if she’d like to go, and we went. To make a long story short (and besides, I was in the midst of TELLING the long story when AOL so rudely cut me off and caused me to lose my whole post)…..I thought it was a nice time. We danced for a while, even though the deep dark house music is not her thing (I think I gave a decent account of myself on the dancefloor here), and then we went for a long walk, even though she was not prepared to do so with her bad walking shoes. It was her idea to keep walking, and she was a good sport about it – I’ll keep walking for 10 miles if you don’t stop me. lol I thought we had some good kino going – nothing big, just the sort of normal casual touch guys and girls do…….the kind of simple stuff I crave deeply and don’t get nearly enough of, like holding hands, walking arm in arm, arm around her, etc. Anyway, we were tired after walking a few miles in total, so I took her back, walked her to her door, and we had a few good hugs and I kissed her on the side of her face twice. I don’t know if I should have tried for a little more, but I figure no hurry, and best to err on the side of caution and leaving her maybe thinking about a bit more. Plus, I get so very little physical contact with females that even that feels great to me in and of itself – I definitely enjoyed the night. I *think* I made my interest clear enough that I didn’t have to desperately paw at her at her door to get the point across. I felt as if I was being considered as a *real date*, not the usual indifferent am-I-on-a-date-or-not keeping me at arm’s length crap I historically encounter with girls. I’ve always said that that is all I ask for – a fair chance. She was open to the possibility of going out again. I suppose I should call her today or tomorrow. Can’t go out tonight, though, I’m driving 80 miles up the coast for a show.
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