Nice Guys Don't Get Laid
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Dear Linda, Jeez…You wouldn’t turn a fella’s head, would you? Thank you, so much, for the kind, encouraging words. They are greatly appreciated… If the truth be known, I am really a very selfish person. I get far more from all you good people, than I could ever give. Each time I reach out my hand to someone, I am the one that receives the uplifting. I have said before, and I know it sounds melodramatic,…but, when you reach out your hand to another, you too feel the warmth of the touch. I know I have found that to be very true. I’ve said this before, (and I’ll probably say it again…lam), but everyone has, or will, feel the cold, stinging bite of loneliness, at some point in their life. Loneliness has no prejudices…it takes us all, without qualifications, and without remorse. Some have known loneliness only for a short time, and some have known only loneliness, their entire lives. Some have loneliness thrust upon them, and some wrap themselves in their loneliness, to use it as a shield. But we all know of that hollow, emptiness of heart, that threatens to erupt into painful tears, without warning, at any time. So how can we, who know that feeling, not reach out, with empathy,caring, and understanding? When we see those, that we recognize as being fellow sufferers, how can we not offer compassion, and comfort? If we as strangers, can give genuine caring, kindness, and understanding to one another, doesn’t that show that mankind does have the capacity to be noble, and good? Then why is there so much hatred, intolerance, and violence in this world? I have none of the answers, but most of the questions. 
Linda, thank you, again, for your kind words. Please stay with us, for many of us have badly bruised egos, and severely damaged self-esteem. We have need for your gentle touch, and possibly, we can return to you, the soft stroking you have given us. Oh, shit…It has happened again…I must have, once again, blacked out. And I see my while I was unconscious, I went on another rant. I do apologize. It has happened before, and it is bound to happen again. So be forewarned. I am looking forward to hearing more from you… Michael, Maddogg "…All the lonely people,… where do they all come from?…" Lennon and McCartney In article <19980310181301.NAA13…@ladder02.news.aol.com>, wondro…@aol.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(WondrOne1) wrote: >Michael wrote: >> Dear Linda, >> What a great post! Very well said…much better than the love tap I >> gave the heartless creep. Just the kind of guy I’d like to have locked >> in a room with me for thitry minutes…and we’d see how fond he is of >> ass beatings. I am by no means, a violent person,…but I have >> potential, when confronted with such insensitivity, and blatant bad >> intent. >> I have really been enjoying your posts…You are another one,that this >> group is very lucky to have found. Please stay with us, you are >> needed, and very much appreciated. >> Michael, >> Maddogg Linda wrote: >Dear Michael: >I read your response to the author of this original post, and I was glad you >put him in his place. I haven’t seen him around since he wrote that, so he’s >probably one that cruises the NG’s and ducks out of sight before he can see the >reactions he most deservingly got. I’m glad he’s gone. >On a more happier note, I want you to know that you too are most appreciated >and very much needed here. You always have a kind word for someone and go out >of your way to lift us up when we most need it. Thank you! I hope you are >getting back at least as much as you are giving out. I have a feeling you are. >You have a gift for making people feel special, wanted and valuable. Were you >always so caring and unselfish toward others? It sounds almost as if you have >no self-esteem problems at all. I guess I’m just curious how people like >yourself can be lonely when you have so much going for you. Are you shy? >Depressed? Please tell me, what is a guy like you doing in a place like this? ><<<<< that’s just a figure of speech. I know that people can benefit from this >group, no matter what road they walked down. >Linda
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ALM (Another Lame Male) I have heard some callous, asinine, shallow, heartless,and, without-a-clue remarks before…but if you’ll just give me a couple of days, I’ll have your trophy engraved… Enjoy the lonely life you are destined to live, with such an insensitive, uncaring, ignorant attitude… Maddogg In article <6dvdcu$cd…@winter.news.erols.com>, amu…@errols.com (ALM) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->It’s really quite simple: >Women are stupid heartless creatures. >This whole image of them being "the fairer" sex is complete bullshit. Any >given woman is as twisted and cruel as any man can be … usually worse. >That’s why I love to hear stories about osme chick getting the crap beat out >of her by her boyfriend or something. It’s nice to think that she probably >rejected a "decent" guy for whatever sadistic bastard she got. Usually, >battered women get what’s coming to them. >In article <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>, ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) wrote: >> And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >>weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! Nevyn wrote: >>The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which details a >>phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group >>could clear this up. What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, >>obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are >>the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure >>them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after >>another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >>guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >>example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >>slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and >>showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of >>the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >>swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and >>a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different >>girls that night. And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >>explanation of this! > – ALM, amu…@erols.com >w+p v2.0: The Video Game Fan Works Page > www.erols.com/amunoz
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Michael wrote: > Dear Linda, > What a great post! Very well said…much better than the love tap I > gave the heartless creep. Just the kind of guy I’d like to have locked > in a room with me for thitry minutes…and we’d see how fond he is of > ass beatings. I am by no means, a violent person,…but I have > potential, when confronted with such insensitivity, and blatant bad > intent. > I have really been enjoying your posts…You are another one,that this > group is very lucky to have found. Please stay with us, you are > needed, and very much appreciated. > Michael, > Maddogg
Dear Michael: I read your response to the author of this original post, and I was glad you put him in his place. I haven’t seen him around since he wrote that, so he’s probably one that cruises the NG’s and ducks out of sight before he can see the reactions he most deservingly got. I’m glad he’s gone. On a more happier note, I want you to know that you too are most appreciated and very much needed here. You always have a kind word for someone and go out of your way to lift us up when we most need it. Thank you! I hope you are getting back at least as much as you are giving out. I have a feeling you are. You have a gift for making people feel special, wanted and valuable. Were you always so caring and unselfish toward others? It sounds almost as if you have no self-esteem problems at all. I guess I’m just curious how people like yourself can be lonely when you have so much going for you. Are you shy? Depressed? Please tell me, what is a guy like you doing in a place like this? <<<<< that’s just a figure of speech. I know that people can benefit from this group, no matter what road they walked down. Linda
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Linda I didn’t get to see the origianal post, thank God! I don’t know how a person can grow up with that kind of hated. You handled that quite well. I hope to see more postings. Wellcome.
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In <6e07vg$9g…@flint.sentex.net> "Bill" <we_wi…@yahoo.com> writes: > Linda I didn’t get to see the origianal post, thank God! I don’t
know how a person can grow up with that kind of hated. You handled that quite well. I hope to see more postings. Wellcome. Ditto for me! I took one look and raised the arrow to "followup" and decided, "The hell with it, maybe he’ll just go away." Didn’t expect Linda to jump right out there like that. I’m afraid my reply would have had more anger in it which wouldn’t have helped matters. Linda and if memory serves, Ocean Rain did real well. Hugs to you both. 
Judy
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If you want to talk about what is bothering you, by all means, go for it. But I for one do not have the stomach to listen to your insulting generalizations and blame for the entire female gender. Ocean Rain says You hit the nail on the head – this one needs help! Thanks for defending (some) of the female gender from ALM’s generalizations. Note to ALM – What’s really bothering you? <19980309025101.VAA19…@ladder03.news.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->amu…@errols.com (ALM) wrote: >> It’s really quite simple: Women are stupid heartless creatures. >How are you going to make friends this way? Do you really believe what you >just wrote? Do you really believe that ALL women are stupid and heartless? >So, you haven’t met even one genuinely nice, sincere, compassionate, >intelligent woman yet? Where have you been? I’m not so much angry as I am >feeling very sad for you. You don’t have a even a slim chance of solving your >loneliness problem by this pattern of thinking. Half of the population is >female! I sure wouldn’t want to be your next-door neighbor — I would fear for >my life with the kind of anger you have toward ALL women. I didn’t even do >anything to you, yet I feel like you hate me. >> This whole image of them being "the fairer" sex is complete bullshit. >> Any given woman is as twisted and cruel as any man can be … usually >> worse. >At least here you include the male "species" as being cruel and twisted. When >did you begin to generalize "everyone" is this way or that? It would have made >more sense if you would have said, "from my own experience, I have seen more >women than men…..(do nasty, terrible things)" Maybe you are focused on "all" >because you have had traumatic experiences in your life. Would you like to >talk about that? >> That’s why I love to hear stories about some chick getting the >> crap beat out of her by her boyfriend or something. >Isn’t that great…..does this make you feel better about yourself? I have >news for you. This kind of thinking makes you even lower than the guy who >beats up on her girlfriend. At least he is acting out from a fit of rage >(there’s still no excuse for it), but you are sitting calmly and "loving" every >minute of a juicy story about a beaten woman. Do you also enjoy the idea of a >child being beaten? > >It’s nice to think >> that she probably rejected a "decent" guy for whatever sadistic bastard >> she got. Usually, battered women get what’s coming to them. >You are sick, fella. And I don’t mean to say that just to lash back out. I >really hope you get the help you need before it’s too late. Have you ever >struck a woman or child and now trying to justify your actions? This is just a >question, not an accusation. I’m trying to understand you. Tell me if I’m >wasting my time. >If you want to talk about what is bothering you, by all means, go for it. But >I for one do not have the stomach to listen to your insulting generalizations >and blame for the entire female gender. >At least Nevyn is coming to the group trying to clear up the question of why >SOME women seem to be attracted to men who treat them poorly: >> In article <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>, ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) wrote: > >> And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >> >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better >> to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one >> which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe >> the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to >> insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have >> the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. >> The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not >> really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then >> leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse >> drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: >> I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >> >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the >> teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the >> living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His >> girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the >> night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a >> ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. >> And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of >> this! >I don’t know, Nevyn. I think that some women, when they were little girls, >might have seen their dad’s beat up on their mother. Studies show that abuse >seems to pass down through generations. There’s just a lot of dysfunction >families that raise kids. Those kids grow up with very little self-esteem, and >in turn, don’t feel worthy have a decent guy. >I also think the kinds of people you meet are limited if you limit the types of >places you go. The more places you go, the more people you will meet, and >those people will be altogether different than the ones you know in your own >little circle. I think this is why our views are so narrow because our whole >world is based on only what (and WHO) we have seen so far. There’s a lot of >injustice in this world, and I get fed up with all of it too sometimes. All we >can do is try to be best we can be, in spite of all the craziness around us. >Linda >~Two wrongs don’t make a right~
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> An >example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth >and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him.
What kind of low-lifes do you socialize with? Maybe that’s part of your problem.
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Dear Linda, What a great post! Very well said…much better than the love tap I gave the heartless creep. Just the kind of guy I’d like to have locked in a room with me for thitry minutes…and we’d see how fond he is of ass beatings. I am by no means, a violent person,…but I have potential, when confronted with such insensitivity, and blatant bad intent. I have really been enjoying your posts…You are another one,that this group is very lucky to have found. Please stay with us, you are needed, and very much appreciated. Michael, Maddogg In article <19980309025101.VAA19…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, wondro…@aol.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(WondrOne1) wrote: >amu…@errols.com (ALM) wrote: >> It’s really quite simple: Women are stupid heartless creatures. Linda wrote: >How are you going to make friends this way? Do you really believe what you >just wrote? Do you really believe that ALL women are stupid and heartless? >So, you haven’t met even one genuinely nice, sincere, compassionate, >intelligent woman yet? Where have you been? I’m not so much angry as I am >feeling very sad for you. You don’t have a even a slim chance of solving your >loneliness problem by this pattern of thinking. Half of the population is >female! I sure wouldn’t want to be your next-door neighbor — I would fear for >my life with the kind of anger you have toward ALL women. I didn’t even do >anything to you, yet I feel like you hate me. >> This whole image of them being "the fairer" sex is complete bullshit. >> Any given woman is as twisted and cruel as any man can be … usually >> worse. >At least here you include the male "species" as being cruel and twisted. When >did you begin to generalize "everyone" is this way or that? It would have made >more sense if you would have said, "from my own experience, I have seen more >women than men…..(do nasty, terrible things)" Maybe you are focused on "all" >because you have had traumatic experiences in your life. Would you like to >talk about that? >> That’s why I love to hear stories about some chick getting the >> crap beat out of her by her boyfriend or something. >Isn’t that great…..does this make you feel better about yourself? I have >news for you. This kind of thinking makes you even lower than the guy who >beats up on her girlfriend. At least he is acting out from a fit of rage >(there’s still no excuse for it), but you are sitting calmly and "loving" every >minute of a juicy story about a beaten woman. Do you also enjoy the idea of a >child being beaten? > >It’s nice to think >> that she probably rejected a "decent" guy for whatever sadistic bastard >> she got. Usually, battered women get what’s coming to them. >You are sick, fella. And I don’t mean to say that just to lash back out. I >really hope you get the help you need before it’s too late. Have you ever >struck a woman or child and now trying to justify your actions? This is just a >question, not an accusation. I’m trying to understand you. Tell me if I’m >wasting my time. >If you want to talk about what is bothering you, by all means, go for it. But >I for one do not have the stomach to listen to your insulting generalizations >and blame for the entire female gender. >At least Nevyn is coming to the group trying to clear up the question of why >SOME women seem to be attracted to men who treat them poorly: >> In article <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>, ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) wrote: > >> And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >> >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better >> to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one >> which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe >> the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to >> insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have >> the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. >> The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not >> really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then >> leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse >> drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: >> I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >> >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the >> teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the >> living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His >> girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the >> night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a >> ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. >> And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of >> this! >I don’t know, Nevyn. I think that some women, when they were little girls, >might have seen their dad’s beat up on their mother. Studies show that abuse >seems to pass down through generations. There’s just a lot of dysfunction >families that raise kids. Those kids grow up with very little self-esteem, and >in turn, don’t feel worthy have a decent guy. >I also think the kinds of people you meet are limited if you limit the types of >places you go. The more places you go, the more people you will meet, and >those people will be altogether different than the ones you know in your own >little circle. I think this is why our views are so narrow because our whole >world is based on only what (and WHO) we have seen so far. There’s a lot of >injustice in this world, and I get fed up with all of it too sometimes. All we >can do is try to be best we can be, in spite of all the craziness around us. >Linda >~Two wrongs don’t make a right~
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I think Evie had the answer to your question, Nevyn. Unfortunately! Because these jerks convey that they have all this "masculinity" and a big crotch, that supposedly means they are good in bed. That’s appealing to them. They equate it with love and caring. When a woman attracts his attention, she thinks she’ll be able to change him and that he would feel differently about, even though he’s a wretch, to her, too. But ya know, the woman thinks it’s different when he’s like that to her, maybe even that she deserved it and/or it will never happen again. Until it happens again and then, she figures, it won’t happen ever again, until…and so on and so on. I haven’t experienced this, I’m just very observant. I’m sorry, but those women who supposedly slept with the guy after he beat and kicked his girlfriend, are wrong in the head and you wouldn’t want to date them, anyway, would you?? You should feel sorry for them. As for the proverbial nice guy…I think women would be pleasantly surprised…I will say no more. Find out for yourself, ladies!
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amu…@errols.com (ALM) wrote: > It’s really quite simple: Women are stupid heartless creatures.
How are you going to make friends this way? Do you really believe what you just wrote? Do you really believe that ALL women are stupid and heartless? So, you haven’t met even one genuinely nice, sincere, compassionate, intelligent woman yet? Where have you been? I’m not so much angry as I am feeling very sad for you. You don’t have a even a slim chance of solving your loneliness problem by this pattern of thinking. Half of the population is female! I sure wouldn’t want to be your next-door neighbor — I would fear for my life with the kind of anger you have toward ALL women. I didn’t even do anything to you, yet I feel like you hate me. > This whole image of them being "the fairer" sex is complete bullshit. > Any given woman is as twisted and cruel as any man can be … usually > worse.
At least here you include the male "species" as being cruel and twisted. When did you begin to generalize "everyone" is this way or that? It would have made more sense if you would have said, "from my own experience, I have seen more women than men…..(do nasty, terrible things)" Maybe you are focused on "all" because you have had traumatic experiences in your life. Would you like to talk about that? > That’s why I love to hear stories about some chick getting the > crap beat out of her by her boyfriend or something.
Isn’t that great…..does this make you feel better about yourself? I have news for you. This kind of thinking makes you even lower than the guy who beats up on her girlfriend. At least he is acting out from a fit of rage (there’s still no excuse for it), but you are sitting calmly and "loving" every minute of a juicy story about a beaten woman. Do you also enjoy the idea of a child being beaten? >It’s nice to think > that she probably rejected a "decent" guy for whatever sadistic bastard > she got. Usually, battered women get what’s coming to them.
You are sick, fella. And I don’t mean to say that just to lash back out. I really hope you get the help you need before it’s too late. Have you ever struck a woman or child and now trying to justify your actions? This is just a question, not an accusation. I’m trying to understand you. Tell me if I’m wasting my time. If you want to talk about what is bothering you, by all means, go for it. But I for one do not have the stomach to listen to your insulting generalizations and blame for the entire female gender. At least Nevyn is coming to the group trying to clear up the question of why SOME women seem to be attracted to men who treat them poorly: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>, ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) wrote: > > And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this > >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better > to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one > which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe > the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to > insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have > the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. > The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not > really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then > leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse > drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: > I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started > >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the > teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the > living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His > girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the > night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a > ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. > And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of > this!
I don’t know, Nevyn. I think that some women, when they were little girls, might have seen their dad’s beat up on their mother. Studies show that abuse seems to pass down through generations. There’s just a lot of dysfunction families that raise kids. Those kids grow up with very little self-esteem, and in turn, don’t feel worthy have a decent guy. I also think the kinds of people you meet are limited if you limit the types of places you go. The more places you go, the more people you will meet, and those people will be altogether different than the ones you know in your own little circle. I think this is why our views are so narrow because our whole world is based on only what (and WHO) we have seen so far. There’s a lot of injustice in this world, and I get fed up with all of it too sometimes. All we can do is try to be best we can be, in spite of all the craziness around us. Linda ~Two wrongs don’t make a right~
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In <6du3dh$fb…@newsd-163.iap.bryant.webtv.net> lookf…@webtv.net writes: >I don’t like men who are abusive and insensitive to women. I am hunting >for one who is loving, kind, gentle and attentive and non abusive. I >guess women think these kind of men are wimps and wouldn’t make very >good lovers and the bad ones are good in bed. I don’t know as I have >never had any man that mistreated me. >Just stay true to yourself and be what you are and not what you think >people want you to be. >Evie
Excellent advice, Evie. Judy
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It’s really quite simple: Women are stupid heartless creatures. This whole image of them being "the fairer" sex is complete bullshit. Any given woman is as twisted and cruel as any man can be … usually worse. That’s why I love to hear stories about osme chick getting the crap beat out of her by her boyfriend or something. It’s nice to think that she probably rejected a "decent" guy for whatever sadistic bastard she got. Usually, battered women get what’s coming to them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -In article <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>, ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) wrote: > And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of this!
— ALM, amu…@erols.com w+p v2.0: The Video Game Fan Works Page www.erols.com/amunoz
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What is it to be loved anyway? Those tough guys have got no time for love – give me a sensitive, intelligent, loving man any day. To make love is to share in each other totally – you can’t get that with a unloving, arogant, b…t..d can you. That’s just sex – which no less can be great, but first you have to trust and respect the person you are with. And as for foreplay … from my experience those insensitive w…k..s don’t know what it is, they are only bothered about the size of their p…. and in putting another notch on their door frame. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nevyn wrote in message <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>… > And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of this!
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I don’t like men who are abusive and insensitive to women. I am hunting for one who is loving, kind, gentle and attentive and non abusive. I guess women think these kind of men are wimps and wouldn’t make very good lovers and the bad ones are good in bed. I don’t know as I have never had any man that mistreated me. Just stay true to yourself and be what you are and not what you think people want you to be. Evie
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I used to go for the ‘bad’ guys too, I guess they reflected the anger I had inside myself. I hated myself then so perhaps I felt more confortable punishing myself with bad relationships. Even now that I’m married to a ‘nice’ man, there are still problems somethimes believing that I should be here at all, that I’m good enough for him. I give loads of myself to people, but am always pleasantly surprised when I get something back. With me it probably has something to do with the way my mom never gave out love, perhaps I felt it was something beyond me. This isn’t a cry for help – just a attempt to provide you with some kind of answer to the question you asked. Also, I think some people who have been hard done by see the gits in life as needing a chance, give it to them and then get hurt – I’ve done that too a few times. You do learn eventually. P.S. Don’t become a lousy git just so you can get laid – it won’t be what you’re after. I’m interested to know your approach too, let us know … Big Hugs, Ocean Rain XXX – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nevyn wrote in message <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1>… > And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this >weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which details a >phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group >could clear this up. What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, >obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are >the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure >them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after >another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An >example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started >slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and >showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of >the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women >swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and >a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different >girls that night. And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some >explanation of this!
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In <6dtd9p$ihu$1@nnrp1> ne…@swbell.net (Nevyn) writes: > And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little
prolific this weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! Join the club! Oh, I forgot. You did. <laugh> >The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which
details a phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group could clear this up. I seriously doubt that!! What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, obnoxious assholes? They look good on first impression??? They forget to tell us that they have the "qualities" you have listed and we hang around until we find out the hard way?? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are >guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat
women. An example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different girls that night. Someone lied to you??? You beat him up, so they felt sorry for him?? And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some explanation of this! Got me! One time I was downtown shopping, walking from store to store, spotted a guy holding a girl with one hand and slapping her face with the other. People walked on by. All 5′ 4" of me went over there and grabbed the "slapping hand" (which was as high as I could reach) and told him to back off. Before he could say a word (or seriously injure this fool), the girl turns to me and tells me to mind my own f**king business. Go figure! Question: Have you asked anyone for a date lately? Where did you ask them to go on a date? How did you ask? (There I go again! One question always leads to another.) That’s me. All questions, few answers. Judy
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And now it is time for a little rant. If I seem a little prolific this weekend, well, I wouldn’t be hanging out here if I had something better to do! The subject of this post is actually the title of a book, one which details a phenomenon that has puzzled me for some time. Maybe the women in the group could clear this up. What is the attraction to insensitive, cheating, obnoxious assholes? The guys I have seen have the most success with women are the ones that mistreat them the most. The ones that cheat. That pressure them into sex when they are not really willing. That get one girl after another pregnant and then leave them to fend for themselves. Often they are guys that abuse drugs or alcohol, that can’t keep a job, that beat women. An example: I was at a party once where some jerkoff got drunk and started slapping his girlfriend around. Knocked her down, kicked her in the teeth and showed no signs of stopping. So I stopped him. Beat the living crap out of the sorry sack of dung to be honest. His girlfriend left, he stayed. Women swarmed around him the rest of the night (at least for the remaining hour and a half I was waiting for a ride). I later heard he slept with two different girls that night. And yet I can’t get a date! I would really like some explanation of this!
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