Lonely Loneliness

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I’m crossposting this to whatever group I thought it would be read on, so I don’t care if you disagree with my crossposting. Yes, I’m that guy who posted yesterday about how I’m gonna try doing things this summer but I think they aren’t going to help anyway, so here goes. I don’t know if what I’m gonna write makes sense, or if it sounds totally silly, but that’s what I think right now. My situation is bad. I have no friends, at least no friends I can go out with, all I do is sit in front of the PC all day getting depressed and suicidal. I won’t go into details, I have posted about myself before, so I don’t want to repeat myself. I guess most of the people reading this can understand me very well. Today I went on a long walk. Alone. I walked for almost an hour, choosing a street and just going on and on. It’s so hot here, that very few people were on the street. So I was almost alone with my thinking. What I thought is, that I should start over. I’m 20 in two months, so I’m not that old. I had posted this before and someone pointed out then that they had tried it and it didn’t help. Well, I would like to give it a try. I thought that if there was anyone in the world that could put me up I could pack up and leave. Maybe it sounds crazy, but please people tell me what you think. If he is as desperate and suicidal he would understand me. We wouldn’t be lonely any more. We could try a new beginning together, it’s gonna be easier than doing it both on their own. I want him to be as desperate as me, so we can understand each other. Keep in mind that I’m Greek. I’ve lived in Athens for my whole life and I’ve never travelled abroad. My english is very good though. I can understand american english very well and british english a little worse but I’ll manage. I then thought about the difficulties in the idea. Money. I’ve got some but not much. We’ll probably need jobs but hey, everybody has to earn their money. Leaving my studies. I’m currently in my second year, I’m doing rather good but I find it increasingly difficult to find the motivation to study. When you’re lonely you feel like there’s no point in doing anything. Tomorrow I have two subjects to be examined on. I said I’d only study for one of them but now I found myself not studying for the other one either. Just staying in my room makes me sick, desperate and feeling helpless. But on the other hand, anything is better than what I’m going through right now. Maybe I’ll do this when (if) I finish my studies here. But that’s not something I would prefer. Then there’s the problem of fitting in. I will be foreign, speaking with a funny accent and it’s gonna be hard fitting in. I wonder if that’s gonna give me more problems. Then there’s this question: What are you gonna do? I want to change my life. I want to live as a different person. I want to start going out, meeting people, find a girlfriend, learn how to drive (where would I get the car though? lol who knows), start drinking to help me a bit. I want to forget my condition. Anybody has watched Forrest Gump? At some point in the film Forrest leaves everything behind and starts running. He just runs for years, on and on. He sees beautiful landscapes, running around the world. Then one day he says "I’m tired", and stops. That was on my mind all the time. I want to have fun in my life, starting as soon as possible. The problem is, I don’t know how much fun it’s going to be. Even if i find someone (which is going to be difficult), we’re gonna have problems with money. I don’t spend much right now but then I want to try spending more. Anyway, I feel like this is enough for now. Please people give your opinions on this. I’m gonna watch the thread. The email in the headers is valid and I check it so you can send any thoughts there for whatever reason you don’t want them posted here. Maybe it sounds like the silliest thing ever, but hey, ANYTHING is better than killing myself. Anything. Or laying on my bed crying and crying as I do. Maybe if there’s two of us we could try going out, meeting people, do crazy stuff, get drunk, have a good time.

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I, too, feel exactly like you do. I live in Israel, in a small town near Jerusalem. I’ve lived here for almost seven years now, yet, I barely know people here, and the only ones I do know I only say hi to on the streets (partially because I don’t have anything to tell them, and partially because they’re not exactly my friends – just people I know). I’m twenty now, I’m serving the Israeli Defense Forces, however ain’t got friends there too. The thing in the army is that the "friendships" you find there are extremely basic, and you end up forgetting the person as soon as you live him (when moving to another base, for example). Even in my civilian life it sucked pretty much, as I almost had no friends in school. I am thinking of doing something. Doing something drastic – like Forest Gump did, is very difficult for me, as it requires leaving the army, which can screw me further in life if I decide to stay in this country (I did think to move to either Ireland or Australia – where I have family). There is one thing about Forest Gump you should notice and remember. I understand very well the problems you see in starting everything over. Forest Gump didn’t think. He just did it. It was some explosion of emotions that lasted a long time. He didn’t think where would he go, or how hard would it be, or where would he buy food and water, or how would he brush his teeth. He just turned around and started running. — Sincerely, Jonathan M. "TacticalSniper" Boyko S…@GMX.Co.UK ICQ: 105977101 +972-54-5951910

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Doug wrote: > "Flashfire" <rambli…@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > news:40d7850e$1_1@127.0.0.1… >> The food of Australia sucks? I don’t think so, whoever wrote this >> obviously never investigated the full range of culinary delights >> Australia has to offer, we have restaurants from every country of >> the world, Melbourne is a city where you could eat out every night >> of the year and still never visit every first class restaurant there >> is. Brisbane has some of the best restaurants in Australia and if >> you are into home cooking, we have fruits, meats and vegetables from >> all over the world. If anyone says that Australian food sucks, then >> they obviously spent all their time eating at McDonald’s. >> — >> Regards Lee > Well Lee, Melbourne is one of my favorite cities but Aussie cuisine, > which is what I talked about (not the foods of private eateries you > mention) is bland and, for us foreigners, not likely to replace > French, German, Mexican, Spanish, Greek, Thai, Japanese, Chinese > (genuine Chinese that is), or foods of other venues.  Frankly, > Vegemite ain’t likely to replace anything on my menu.  That goes for > Marmite too btw. > As for Brisbane, it also is a nice city but then all the cities of > Australia, including Tasmania, have exceptionally nice people (that > seem to like Vegemite way too much) and I hope you didn’t get the > impression that I somehow felt otherwise about the country.  Both > Australia and New Zealand are places any visitor can find tons of > things to do, or to just relax in, depending on their preferences. > As for McDonald’s, I pretty much never go to those places anywhere in > the world. > As for home cookin’, well that seems to be a lost art to the traveler > regardless of where you end up.  Maybe some home cookin’ still can be > found in the Southern US but not in many restaurants anymore. > AND I have been from Cairns to Hobart, from Sydney to Melbourne. > Germans, in my opinion, had the BEST food, including their sauces! > To each his own. > Doug

To each his own, however Australia doesnt really have its own cuisine, so I have no idea of what you are talking about. I lived in every state of Australia and I have eaten every kind of food you can imagine, including greek, turkish, spanish, thai, chinese, italian ect ect. And I find nothing bland about it at all. So really I cannot imagine this bland Aussie cuisine you talk about. Even in my own home, my cupboards are full of herbs, spices, sauces, I make my own and I buy many homemade sauces from markets, some of the chilli I have would burn your eyebrows off at a hundred paces. And as far as german cooking, if thats your idea of the best, well it makes sense why you dont like what Australia has to offer. You have no idea of good cuisine at all. If your tastes run to cabbage and sausage…. — Regards Lee Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill  Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ———————————————————-     ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ———————————————————-                         http://www.usenet.com —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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"Flashfire" <rambli…@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

news:40d7850e$1_1@127.0.0.1… > The food of Australia sucks? I don’t think so, whoever wrote this obviously > never investigated the full range of culinary delights Australia has to > offer, we have restaurants from every country of the world, Melbourne is a > city where you could eat out every night of the year and still never visit > every first class restaurant there is. Brisbane has some of the best > restaurants in Australia and if you are into home cooking, we have fruits, > meats and vegetables from all over the world. If anyone says that Australian > food sucks, then they obviously spent all their time eating at McDonald’s. > — > Regards Lee

Well Lee, Melbourne is one of my favorite cities but Aussie cuisine, which is what I talked about (not the foods of private eateries you mention) is bland and, for us foreigners, not likely to replace French, German, Mexican, Spanish, Greek, Thai, Japanese, Chinese (genuine Chinese that is), or foods of other venues.  Frankly, Vegemite ain’t likely to replace anything on my menu.  That goes for Marmite too btw. As for Brisbane, it also is a nice city but then all the cities of Australia, including Tasmania, have exceptionally nice people (that seem to like Vegemite way too much) and I hope you didn’t get the impression that I somehow felt otherwise about the country.  Both Australia and New Zealand are places any visitor can find tons of things to do, or to just relax in, depending on their preferences. As for McDonald’s, I pretty much never go to those places anywhere in the world. As for home cookin’, well that seems to be a lost art to the traveler regardless of where you end up.  Maybe some home cookin’ still can be found in the Southern US but not in many restaurants anymore. AND I have been from Cairns to Hobart, from Sydney to Melbourne.  Germans, in my opinion, had the BEST food, including their sauces!  To each his own. Doug

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -waitingforgo…@samuel.beckett wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:10:40 GMT, "Doug" <drwi…@socal.rr.com> > wrote: >> <(((*> >> <(((*> "Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message >> <(((*> news:Xns950F3968F458t45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… >> <(((*> > "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 >> 16:30:19 GMT in <(((*> > alt.support.depression: >> <(((*> > >> <(((*> > > Too far from Greece. >> <(((*> > > I do find Australia a bit boring too. >> <(((*> > > >> <(((*> > >> <(((*> > I don’t care that it’s too far away. Of course boring is >> bad. <(((*> >> <(((*> Bungee jumping, skydiving, river racing, diving the Great >> Barrier Reef, all <(((*> forms of sports, alligator hunting, hiking, >> climbing, well the list grows <(((*> and grows doesn’t it? >> <(((*> >> <(((*> Australia and New Zealand offer some of the most exciting >> venues worldwide! <(((*> >> <(((*> Great social opportunities also. >> <(((*> >> <(((*> Food sucks though.  Too bland. > For those of us who love the taste of lamb, though, it would be > Heaven. And Ozzie wines are pretty damn good.

The food of Australia sucks? I don’t think so, whoever wrote this obviously never investigated the full range of culinary delights Australia has to offer, we have restaurants from every country of the world, Melbourne is a city where you could eat out every night of the year and still never visit every first class restaurant there is. Brisbane has some of the best restaurants in Australia and if you are into home cooking, we have fruits, meats and vegetables from all over the world. If anyone says that Australian food sucks, then they obviously spent all their time eating at McDonald’s. — Regards Lee Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill  Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ———————————————————-     ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ———————————————————-                         http://www.usenet.com —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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In California, we buy a wine by Charles Shaw (Made by Franzia -who sells wine by the box) that beats tea and is called "Two Buck Chuck" since it sells for $1.99 a bottle.  It is imported from Aussieland.  Greg Norman Estates produce some very good wines from down under.  Lots of good wines compete with California’s best! Gotta admit that lamb in these two countries is super! Doug <waitingforgo…@samuel.beckett> wrote in message

news:0ited0pjrfe1cfmlq1tn7i15u9notcdt1g@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:10:40 GMT, "Doug" <drwi…@socal.rr.com> > wrote: > ><(((*> > ><(((*> "Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message > ><(((*> news:Xns950F3968F458t45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > ><(((*> > "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:30:19 GMT in > ><(((*> > alt.support.depression: > ><(((*> > > ><(((*> > > Too far from Greece. > ><(((*> > > I do find Australia a bit boring too. > ><(((*> > > > ><(((*> > > ><(((*> > I don’t care that it’s too far away. Of course boring is bad. > ><(((*> > ><(((*> Bungee jumping, skydiving, river racing, diving the Great Barrier Reef, all > ><(((*> forms of sports, alligator hunting, hiking, climbing, well the list grows > ><(((*> and grows doesn’t it? > ><(((*> > ><(((*> Australia and New Zealand offer some of the most exciting venues worldwide! > ><(((*> > ><(((*> Great social opportunities also. > ><(((*> > ><(((*> Food sucks though.  Too bland. > For those of us who love the taste of lamb, though, it would be > Heaven. And Ozzie wines are pretty damn good. > Tara J. Ballance > Montreal, Canada

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> Hey, you can come over anytime and tell me in person, even wiht the age > difference, ya know?:)

Next summer I plan on having enough money saved to go traveling even if it is by myself. I hope it isn’t but if it is I’ll still go. Anyway, I’ve always really wanted to go to Canada it seems like a beautiful country and I love hockey. So maybe we will meet "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message

news:cb587a$odj$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If I were you though, I’d wait until the medical experiment of the week has > settled, so that you can see if Miss Hyde won’t suddenly apear…;-) > Thanks, Anon:) > If I ever become nasty after Tuesday, remember I once was not so bad, > okay..?:) > Chloe >  "Anon" (a…@anon.com) writes: > > God damn C your so fuckin nice, really Despite our age difference I wish > > we knew each other in real life. > > I’ll say it again it’s fuckin stupid that people like you are lonely, > > someone’s missing out. > > "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > > news:cb4e9k$2r2$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… > >> Well, sly, here is my offer. > >> I am not of your age, and am female, in my fourties. > >> I have an adult son of 26 (had him at age 4;-)):), who lives his adult > >> life on his own. I got plenty of room here in Quebec,Canada. > >> What about if you registered to study in Canada next year? > >> You coudl be housed at my place -of courdse woudl life take you on to > >> p[laces you woudl prefer, you woudl be free to move on. > >> Consider it like a maternal friend somehwere that has the room and has a > >> quiet lifestyle and has to learn to get back on with life too. > >> — > —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sly (george_tei…@gamebox.net) writes: > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote on Sun, 20 Jun > 2004 16:33:56 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: >> What about if you registered to study in Canada next year? >> You coudl be housed at my place -of courdse woudl life take you on >> to p[laces you woudl prefer, you woudl be free to move on. >> Consider it like a maternal friend somehwere that has the room and >> has a quiet lifestyle and has to learn to get back on with life >> too. > That sounds like a good idea. >> You woudl do better if you were not allergic to pets thoughg: I >> have two digs, one cat, one turtle and five birds, including a >> pigeon that flies freely in the house (the other four are in >> cages:)). The dogs get along fine with the cat, and the piegon >> sleeps with the cat when it is not takign a bath with the turtle >> int eh big aqaurium. > I’m probably allergic to pets (my eyes have been getting dry ever > since my brother started piling up all those parrots) but I’ll > manage. > Thanks for the invitation. It sounds great. I was looking for someone > my age of course but that means nothing. If I take the decision I’ll > be sure to pay you a visit.

K dokey. Offer stands, though, woudl you not find anythign else and still want to try and make a change. C —

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Hey, you can come over anytime and tell me in person, even wiht the age difference, ya know?:) If I were you though, I’d wait until the medical experiment of the week has settled, so that you can see if Miss Hyde won’t suddenly apear…;-) Thanks, Anon:) If I ever become nasty after Tuesday, remember I once was not so bad, okay..?:) Chloe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - "Anon" (a…@anon.com) writes: > God damn C your so fuckin nice, really Despite our age difference I wish > we knew each other in real life. > I’ll say it again it’s fuckin stupid that people like you are lonely, > someone’s missing out. > "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > news:cb4e9k$2r2$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… >> Well, sly, here is my offer. >> I am not of your age, and am female, in my fourties. >> I have an adult son of 26 (had him at age 4;-)):), who lives his adult >> life on his own. I got plenty of room here in Quebec,Canada. >> What about if you registered to study in Canada next year? >> You coudl be housed at my place -of courdse woudl life take you on to >> p[laces you woudl prefer, you woudl be free to move on. >> Consider it like a maternal friend somehwere that has the room and has a >> quiet lifestyle and has to learn to get back on with life too. >> —

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"Anon" <a…@anon.com> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:48:31 GMT in alt.support.depression: > He wants to move anywhere in the world from what I see. > I feel for you sly, I’m in the exact same situation as you well > not exact. But i’m gonna be 20 in a month. Although I do go out I > don’t have any proper friends and no chance of a girl and am > messing up my studies.

Maybe you could find a proper friend… Are you that guy who wrote once that you want to die cos you haven’t touched a girl? I thought you were EXACTLY like me then. I also posted it.

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"Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message

news:Xns950F3968F458t45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:30:19 GMT in > alt.support.depression: > > Too far from Greece. > > I do find Australia a bit boring too. > I don’t care that it’s too far away. Of course boring is bad.

Bungee jumping, skydiving, river racing, diving the Great Barrier Reef, all forms of sports, alligator hunting, hiking, climbing, well the list grows and grows doesn’t it? Australia and New Zealand offer some of the most exciting venues worldwide! Great social opportunities also. Food sucks though.  Too bland. Doug

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Hey Sly, I would take Chloe’s offer if I were in your place But do you really want to leave Greece? It is one of the most beautiful countries I know, have already been there for nine times, always in different places, first backpacking then camping, sometimes even sleeping under the stars, ohmy, what a beautiful country, and always great people to meet I was in Samothraki when there was no asphalt road there, was in Crete staying at an old man’s house who thought I could heal his rheumatism just because I was a fititissa which meant medicine and doctor and nothing else to him… Oh so many really beautiful and vital rememberances …. Ahyes, what i wanted to say, you still have enough time to think it over but if I were you with the definite wish to leave and make a new start or just for an interlude in my life, well, I’d just jump right in!" Good luck, think twice, then go ahead! Sumi

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"Jodie" <jodi…@sympatico.ca> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:12:24 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > Are you sure you want to leave in the middle of the year?  Have > you thought about at least finishing the year, if not the your > whole studies, so what you’ve accomplished so far won’t be for > naught?

Yes I’ve thought about that… finishing my studies seems proper. Then I could maybe get financial help from my parents to continue abroad. > Depends on where you go.  If you came to Canada, you would find > that you are very welcome.  Everybody is from somewhere here.  I > love it.  When I get on subway, I’m often the "minority".  I love > experiencing many different cultures in my everyday life.  And > Canada encourages people to emigrate there.  You would fit in > easily, and you would find that there are tons of social programs > to help new immigrants.

That’s good to hear. Although Canada is so cold….. Just joking of course. > You could try finishing out your year, and meanwhile, apply for > the many different scholarships available to foreigners, if you > want to go America or Canada.  England also has many different > scholarships available.  I know in Canada there are many > scholarships available to people from specific countries; I’m sure > Greece is one of them.

How can I find more about those scholarships? Any websites?

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> Hey maybe Sly could come to blighty and move in with you – after all he > wants to shack up with someone in the same position and start anew > together! Better still, you could both move together to some country where > neither of you speaks the language and have a whole new adventure for > both of you… *Sigh* what an opportunity – wish I’d had such a one when I > was nearly 20….

I was thinking the exact same thing, but I got studies and all and I wanna make a go of it and there’s parents and all. If I didn’t have my house sorted out already for next year I might have taken up the offer, it would have been good methinks. "Little Monster" <r…@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message

news:bc13d78b4bf670d1791d510493f91b43@news.teranews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:48:31 +0100, the world was enlightented by Anon, > unto whom the words are attributed: > >> Too far from Greece. > >> I do find Australia a bit boring too. > > He wants to move anywhere in the world from what I see. > > I feel for you sly, I’m in the exact same situation as you well not exact. > > But i’m gonna be 20 in a month. Although I do go out I don’t have any proper > > friends and no chance of a girl and am messing up my studies. > Monster > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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God damn C your so fuckin nice, really Despite our age difference I wish we knew each other in real life. I’ll say it again it’s fuckin stupid that people like you are lonely, someone’s missing out. "Eleonore Beaudoin" <bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message

news:cb4e9k$2r2$1@freenet9.carleton.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, sly, here is my offer. > I am not of your age, and am female, in my fourties. > I have an adult son of 26 (had him at age 4;-)):), who lives his adult > life on his own. I got plenty of room here in Quebec,Canada. > What about if you registered to study in Canada next year? > You coudl be housed at my place -of courdse woudl life take you on to > p[laces you woudl prefer, you woudl be free to move on. > Consider it like a maternal friend somehwere that has the room and has a > quiet lifestyle and has to learn to get back on with life too. > —

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I thought that if there was anyone in > the world that could put me up I could pack up and leave. Maybe it > sounds crazy, but please people tell me what you think. If he is as > desperate and suicidal he would understand me. We wouldn’t be lonely > any more. We could try a new beginning together, it’s gonna be easier > than doing it both on their own. I want him to be as desperate as me, > so we can understand each other.

I wish I could help you.  I have too many problems of my own to burden someone else with, though, and of course, no money. Travelling may do you a world of good, if you need to leave your situation and start fresh.  It may very well work for you.  I’m currently in my second > year, I’m doing rather good but I find it increasingly difficult to > find the motivation to study.

Are you sure you want to leave in the middle of the year?  Have you thought about at least finishing the year, if not the your whole studies, so what you’ve accomplished so far won’t be for naught? > Then there’s the problem of fitting in. I will be foreign, speaking > with a funny accent and it’s gonna be hard fitting in. I wonder if > that’s gonna give me more problems.

Depends on where you go.  If you came to Canada, you would find that you are very welcome.  Everybody is from somewhere here.  I love it.  When I get on subway, I’m often the "minority".  I love experiencing many different cultures in my everyday life.  And Canada encourages people to emigrate there.  You would fit in easily, and you would find that there are tons of social programs to help new immigrants. You could try finishing out your year, and meanwhile, apply for the many different scholarships available to foreigners, if you want to go America or Canada.  England also has many different scholarships available.  I know in Canada there are many scholarships available to people from specific countries; I’m sure Greece is one of them. Jodie

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:48:31 +0100, the world was enlightented by Anon, unto whom the words are attributed: >> Too far from Greece. >> I do find Australia a bit boring too. > He wants to move anywhere in the world from what I see. > I feel for you sly, I’m in the exact same situation as you well not exact. > But i’m gonna be 20 in a month. Although I do go out I don’t have any proper > friends and no chance of a girl and am messing up my studies.

Hey maybe Sly could come to blighty and move in with you – after all he wants to shack up with someone in the same position and start anew together! Better still, you could both move together to some country where neither of you speaks the language and have a whole new adventure for both of you… *Sigh* what an opportunity – wish I’d had such a one when I was nearly 20…. Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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"Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:50:41 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > This sounds a lot like me. > Too bad I’m in Australia.

What’s wrong with Australia?

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"Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message

news:Xns950EC565DEF85t45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:50:41 GMT in > alt.support.loneliness: > > This sounds a lot like me. > > Too bad I’m in Australia. > What’s wrong with Australia?

Too far from Greece. I do find Australia a bit boring too.

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Well, sly, here is my offer. I am not of your age, and am female, in my fourties. I have an adult son of 26 (had him at age 4;-)):), who lives his adult life on his own. I got plenty of room here in Quebec,Canada. What about if you registered to study in Canada next year? You coudl be housed at my place -of courdse woudl life take you on to p[laces you woudl prefer, you woudl be free to move on. Consider it like a maternal friend somehwere that has the room and has a quiet lifestyle and has to learn to get back on with life too. You woudl do better if you were not allergic to pets thoughg: I have two digs, one cat, one turtle and five birds, including a pigeon that flies freely in the house (the other four are in cages:)). The dogs get along fine with the cat, and the piegon sleeps with the cat when it is not takign a bath with the turtle int eh big aqaurium. It is by NO MEANS a wealthy place. I still ahve odl student furniture myself and student sin general have better than I do. But it’s most certainly is a doorway to a new start somewhere else than Greece for you, and Canada is not a bad place to live. I am on the frontier exactly between Quebec and Ontario, sort of part of the national capital, Ottawa. Everyone here speaks both French and English, so you’d not be too lost. There is also a Greek community in Ottawa, of course, where then you coudl meet people of your on culture when you’d feel like it. I am not offering this as a sexual thing at all, just as a place ythat is opened oudl you care to do the change for real. Tickets to Canada are more expensive between June 30th and September 30th. You could say move in in the spring next year, after being accepted to Ottawa U (what do you study in?), say, so as to avoid the high ticket price season. You might ask why I’d do this. Simply, cause I grew up with always new people arriving and sharing life at home, my parents having raised 7 kids of their own and 52 more as well. It is a natural way of life to me, where I was considering offering a homeless young man near my work place to move in to have a place to stay…He howver has a female dog he adores where my two dogs, both male, would NOT do well with that….I think he also prefers his life as it is, homeless as it may be, in his case. I could use the company, and well, why not?:) You might then have the time to find whoever it is you are seekign tyo share this adventure with and from there, take you own steps to move out woudl you so wish when you’d so wish. This way, you could end your studies, and start anew while keeping the future ahead as far as education goes, and see a new part of the world. Of course, if you would be able to afford the flight before next year, the door is opened now too. Just messy and needs cleaning up:), but it is a door:), and a house to start the new life step in BTW…I coudl teach you hwo to drive any time, too:) I have an old wreck right no, so no dammages coudl be done anyway L:). But I intend to try and get a new wrecksoon, as this one is truely made to stretch it beyond its longevity, being an 88 volks (and standard). But if I could teach my son on it, I sure could teach another:) Would you want to check on this, you can email me at wippee21atyahoodotcom. Would you want to check my credentials as a human being, you can ask on asl. A few know me since a few years, and a few visited me before a few times as well. I know Ottawa University quite well, could help you around until you know your way, and am not one to get in people’s way when I want to help them get their own life together. There are other unis around too, in Ottawa or in my town accross the brige from Ottawa, but it all depends in what you study in which you’d want to apply to. If you got the guts, I got the place:) Chloe  Sly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(george_tei…@gamebox.net) writes: > I’m crossposting this to whatever group I thought it would be read > on, so I don’t care if you disagree with my crossposting. > Yes, I’m that guy who posted yesterday about how I’m gonna try doing > things this summer but I think they aren’t going to help anyway, so > here goes. > I don’t know if what I’m gonna write makes sense, or if it sounds > totally silly, but that’s what I think right now. > My situation is bad. I have no friends, at least no friends I can go > out with, all I do is sit in front of the PC all day getting > depressed and suicidal. I won’t go into details, I have posted about > myself before, so I don’t want to repeat myself. I guess most of the > people reading this can understand me very well. > Today I went on a long walk. Alone. I walked for almost an hour, > choosing a street and just going on and on. It’s so hot here, that > very few people were on the street. So I was almost alone with my > thinking. What I thought is, that I should start over. I’m 20 in two > months, so I’m not that old. I had posted this before and someone > pointed out then that they had tried it and it didn’t help. Well, I > would like to give it a try. I thought that if there was anyone in > the world that could put me up I could pack up and leave. Maybe it > sounds crazy, but please people tell me what you think. If he is as > desperate and suicidal he would understand me. We wouldn’t be lonely > any more. We could try a new beginning together, it’s gonna be easier > than doing it both on their own. I want him to be as desperate as me, > so we can understand each other. > Keep in mind that I’m Greek. I’ve lived in Athens for my whole life > and I’ve never travelled abroad. My english is very good though. I > can understand american english very well and british english a > little worse but I’ll manage. > I then thought about the difficulties in the idea. Money. I’ve got > some but not much. We’ll probably need jobs but hey, everybody has to > earn their money. Leaving my studies. I’m currently in my second > year, I’m doing rather good but I find it increasingly difficult to > find the motivation to study. When you’re lonely you feel like > there’s no point in doing anything. Tomorrow I have two subjects to > be examined on. I said I’d only study for one of them but now I found > myself not studying for the other one either. Just staying in my room > makes me sick, desperate and feeling helpless. But on the other hand, > anything is better than what I’m going through right now. Maybe I’ll > do this when (if) I finish my studies here. But that’s not something > I would prefer. > Then there’s the problem of fitting in. I will be foreign, speaking > with a funny accent and it’s gonna be hard fitting in. I wonder if > that’s gonna give me more problems. > Then there’s this question: What are you gonna do? I want to change > my life. I want to live as a different person. I want to start going > out, meeting people, find a girlfriend, learn how to drive (where > would I get the car though? lol who knows), start drinking to help me > a bit. I want to forget my condition. > Anybody has watched Forrest Gump? At some point in the film Forrest > leaves everything behind and starts running. He just runs for years, > on and on. He sees beautiful landscapes, running around the world. > Then one day he says "I’m tired", and stops. That was on my mind all > the time. I want to have fun in my life, starting as soon as > possible. > The problem is, I don’t know how much fun it’s going to be. Even if i > find someone (which is going to be difficult), we’re gonna have > problems with money. I don’t spend much right now but then I want to > try spending more. > Anyway, I feel like this is enough for now. Please people give your > opinions on this. I’m gonna watch the thread. The email in the > headers is valid and I check it so you can send any thoughts there > for whatever reason you don’t want them posted here. Maybe it sounds > like the silliest thing ever, but hey, ANYTHING is better than > killing myself. Anything. Or laying on my bed crying and crying as I > do. Maybe if there’s two of us we could try going out, meeting > people, do crazy stuff, get drunk, have a good time.

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> Too far from Greece. > I do find Australia a bit boring too.

He wants to move anywhere in the world from what I see. I feel for you sly, I’m in the exact same situation as you well not exact. But i’m gonna be 20 in a month. Although I do go out I don’t have any proper friends and no chance of a girl and am messing up my studies. "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote in message news:40d5bc13@duster.adelaide.on.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message > news:Xns950EC565DEF85t45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > > "Victor" <zee lonely loser> wrote on Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:50:41 GMT in > > alt.support.loneliness: > > > This sounds a lot like me. > > > Too bad I’m in Australia. > > What’s wrong with Australia?

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"Sly" <george_tei…@gamebox.net> wrote in message

news:Xns950EB9557EEDEt45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > I’m crossposting this to whatever group I thought it would be read > on, so I don’t care if you disagree with my crossposting. > Yes, I’m that guy who posted yesterday about how I’m gonna try doing > things this summer but I think they aren’t going to help anyway, so > here goes. > I don’t know if what I’m gonna write makes sense, or if it sounds > totally silly, but that’s what I think right now. > My situation is bad. I have no friends, at least no friends I can go > out with, all I do is sit in front of the PC all day getting > depressed and suicidal. I won’t go into details, I have posted about > myself before, so I don’t want to repeat myself. I guess most of the > people reading this can understand me very well.

This sounds a lot like me. Too bad I’m in Australia.

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