The answer is loving Jesus
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"Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing Ability" <Departm…@fKeepingItReal.gov> wrote on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:11:33 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > Like any religion, the interpretation is any way you want > it. Exclude what does not fit your theology, include what > does.
No, I’m afraid you didn’t get it right. There’s this text in the Bible where Jesus says he had come to rule by the sword. I’m wondering what it means. Include whatever you want in your explanation, I didn’t ask you not to.
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"Psymaster" <nosmapple…@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9411AF387E06Ct45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing Ability" > <Departm…@fKeepingItReal.gov> wrote on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 > 09:11:33 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > > Like any religion, the interpretation is any way you want > > it. Exclude what does not fit your theology, include what > > does. > No, I’m afraid you didn’t get it right. > There’s this text in the Bible where Jesus says he had come to > rule by the sword. I’m wondering what it means. > Include whatever you want in your explanation, I didn’t ask you > not to.
Those who believe the Bible is all about God’s Love for us will ignore all the hatemongering stuff, and those convinced the Bible (or Koran, or what have) justifies our hatred of others will ignore all the Sermon on the Mount stuff.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OB (nevilemo…@yahoo.com) writes: > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message <news:bm629f$242$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>… >> > Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far >> > away from you, never wanting to get near it again. >> Yeah…Like, Christ only apears in the New Testament part…The intro is >> almost as bad as a Stephen King novel for how slow before any really >> interesting, pertaining stuff relating to the title happens, where the >> first few thousand pages is a gathering of violent and sexual stories, and of >> power trip… Nothign anyone ever cared about for sure;-). And it shows the >> author is not decided yet on any character or >> plot before it gets to the NT. Where it drops lamentably right after that >> part, too. > The Old Testament was clearly written as a vehicle for Charlton Heston.
Well, there you go! Zactly my feeling;-):) … Though the vehicles in Ben Urr were inspired by it too;-) Mppft:) —
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bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message <news:bm629f$242$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>… > > Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far > > away from you, never wanting to get near it again. > Yeah…Like, Christ only apears in the New Testament part…The intro is > almost as bad as a Stephen King novel for how slow before any really > interesting, pertaining stuff relating to the title happens, where the > first few thousand pages is a gathering of violent and sexual stories, and of > power trip… Nothign anyone ever cared about for sure;-). And it shows the > author is not decided yet on any character or > plot before it gets to the NT. Where it drops lamentably right after that > part, too.
The Old Testament was clearly written as a vehicle for Charlton Heston.
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Psymaster (nosmapple…@somewhere.com) writes: > "arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 > 12:41:09 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: >> Eternal separation >> would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. But from what i >> understood, is that this has become impossible because of >> Christ. I just think this is interesting and i want to know >> what is meant by it. > That’s a heap of bullshit, sorry for the language. > Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far > away from you, never wanting to get near it again.
Yeah…Like, Christ only apears in the New Testament part…The intro is almost as bad as a Stephen King novel for how slow before any really interesting, pertaining stuff relating to the title happens, where the first few thousand pages is a gathering of violent and sexual stories, and of power trip… Nothign anyone ever cared about for sure;-). And it shows the author is not decided yet on any character or plot before it gets to the NT. Where it drops lamentably right after that part, too. And if everyone can recite the first sentence of the book they never read, while adjoining others tor ead it, who on earth remembers the last sentence at all? 
Me thinks maybe one day we will see that those books were left behind from a (future) time travel in the past, and were the rejected writings of some hollywood weekly series, written by improvised series-writers when the original writers were gone on holidays. :) C —
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>> No, from eternal separation. Or so i’ve heard. I mean, if that were >> physically possible, i really wouldn’t like the idea. Eternal separation >> would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. >And that’s where most of us are right now.
Except that it’s temporary. I hope. >To me hell isn’t a place >I go to when I die: when I die, ‘I’ cease to exist.
Hmm.. When i die, i don’t know what happens. >>What bothers me about christianity is that it looks to me >> somewhat preoccupied with authority, hierarchy, domination. >I think that this is christianity as it has been interpreted, not as it >was meant to be.
That may be true. >> As in, you HAVE >> to believe this or that / submit to the will of this or that, or else. I >> don’t want to submit to anything i don’t understand, because i don’t trust >> anything that i don’t understand, just as i don’t trust anything that >bleeds for five days and doesn’t die. >That is disgusting.
I didn’t make that one up myself, i have to admit.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -arie <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote in message … >Psymaster wrote in message … >>"arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 >>12:41:09 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: >>> Eternal separation >>> would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. But from what i >>> understood, is that this has become impossible because of >>> Christ. I just think this is interesting and i want to know >>> what is meant by it. >>That’s a heap of bullshit, sorry for the language. >Oh that’s okay. >>Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far >>away from you, never wanting to get near it again. >I haven’t read it, but i was raised in a catholic environment. At primary >school they stuffed all kinds of biblical stuff and morals down our throats. >I know a lot of this stuff is a heap of bullshit, but i’m looking for the >bits of truth in there. Why? Curiosity? I have this enormous drive to find >out what life’s about. Although i’ve said many times (to myself and others) >that it can’t be fully understand,
understood, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i still haven’t managed to still my >hunger for knowledge. It may be a psychological thing. Maybe i just have to >stop and say, "i dunno".
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"arie" wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Psymaster wrote > >"arie" wrote > >09:49:42 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > >> I’m kinda wondering.. how can one guy be responsible for > >> the fate of all humankind and the universe? I mean, i would > >> love to believe all that, but i just don’t understand it. > >> So far, i haven’t come across any intelligible explanation, > >> other than "you just have to believe it". I also have a big > >> problem with authority. Any ideas on this? > >Yeah. You just have to believe it. That’s because the whole > >story about God saving you is fake. Nobody with one working brai > >cell believes it anyway. > You can interpret it in many ways. If "being saved" means "being aligned > to/integrated with reality", it kinda makes sense to me. > >Save you from what? From his father (which is himself)? > No, from eternal separation. Or so i’ve heard. I mean, if that were > physically possible, i really wouldn’t like the idea. Eternal separation > would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned.
And that’s where most of us are right now. To me hell isn’t a place I go to when I die: when I die, ‘I’ cease to exist. > But from what i understood, is > that this has become impossible because of Christ. I just think this is > interesting and i want to know what is meant by it. > From a taoist pov, all of this is meaningless because the whole idea of > eternal separation simply doesn’t exist there. In taoism, reality isn’t > personified. It’s too abstract for that. That’s why i like it. In > christianity, reality (God, universe) gets a personality, an identity, which > is Christ. What bothers me about christianity is that it looks to me > somewhat preoccupied with authority, hierarchy, domination.
I think that this is christianity as it has been interpreted, not as it was meant to be. > As in, you HAVE > to believe this or that / submit to the will of this or that, or else. I > don’t want to submit to anything i don’t understand, because i don’t trust > anything that i don’t understand, just as i don’t trust anything that
bleeds for five days and doesn’t die. That is disgusting. – Michaela
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"Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:41:28 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > I think that this is christianity as it has been > interpreted, not as it was meant to be.
What was it meant to be? Jesus said that he had come to rule by the sword.
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"Psymaster" <nosmapple…@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns941074B9F2FAt45fs6vve@130.133.1.4… > "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote on > Thu, 09 Oct 2003 21:41:28 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > > I think that this is christianity as it has been > > interpreted, not as it was meant to be. > What was it meant to be? Jesus said that he had come to rule by > the sword.
Like any religion, the interpretation is any way you want it. Exclude what does not fit your theology, include what does.
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Psymaster wrote in message … >"arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 >12:41:09 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: >> Eternal separation >> would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. But from what i >> understood, is that this has become impossible because of >> Christ. I just think this is interesting and i want to know >> what is meant by it. >That’s a heap of bullshit, sorry for the language.
Oh that’s okay. >Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far >away from you, never wanting to get near it again.
I haven’t read it, but i was raised in a catholic environment. At primary school they stuffed all kinds of biblical stuff and morals down our throats. I know a lot of this stuff is a heap of bullshit, but i’m looking for the bits of truth in there. Why? Curiosity? I have this enormous drive to find out what life’s about. Although i’ve said many times (to myself and others) that it can’t be fully understand, i still haven’t managed to still my hunger for knowledge. It may be a psychological thing. Maybe i just have to stop and say, "i dunno".
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"arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:41:09 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > Eternal separation > would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. But from what i > understood, is that this has become impossible because of > Christ. I just think this is interesting and i want to know > what is meant by it.
That’s a heap of bullshit, sorry for the language. Have you read the Bible? Do, and you will send Christianity far away from you, never wanting to get near it again.
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Psymaster wrote in message … >"arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Wed, 08 Oct 2003 >09:49:42 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: >> I’m kinda wondering.. how can one guy be responsible for >> the fate of all humankind and the universe? I mean, i would >> love to believe all that, but i just don’t understand it. >> So far, i haven’t come across any intelligible explanation, >> other than "you just have to believe it". I also have a big >> problem with authority. Any ideas on this? >Yeah. You just have to believe it. That’s because the whole >story about God saving you is fake. Nobody with one working brai >cell believes it anyway.
You can interpret it in many ways. If "being saved" means "being aligned to/integrated with reality", it kinda makes sense to me. >Save you from what? From his father (which is himself)?
No, from eternal separation. Or so i’ve heard. I mean, if that were physically possible, i really wouldn’t like the idea. Eternal separation would mean hell, as far as i’m concerned. But from what i understood, is that this has become impossible because of Christ. I just think this is interesting and i want to know what is meant by it. From a taoist pov, all of this is meaningless because the whole idea of eternal separation simply doesn’t exist there. In taoism, reality isn’t personified. It’s too abstract for that. That’s why i like it. In christianity, reality (God, universe) gets a personality, an identity, which is Christ. What bothers me about christianity is that it looks to me somewhat preoccupied with authority, hierarchy, domination. As in, you HAVE to believe this or that / submit to the will of this or that, or else. I don’t want to submit to anything i don’t understand, because i don’t trust anything that i don’t understand, just as i don’t trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die.
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"Phil-on-a-hill" <philh…@home.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ykDgb.7614$RU4.71555@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net… > "Parker_wears_dress" <pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com… > > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with > jesus.
And now RONCO brings you Jesus Action Figure! He saves! He resurrects! He heals the sick and makes the blind man um, unblind! See him make bread from stone! See him throw the moneylenders out of the temple with special spring-loaded action karate chop! Watch him defy crucifixion with shoulder missle launcher! (Moneylenders, missle launcher and bread sold separately).
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Phil-on-a-hill wrote in message … >"Parker_wears_dress" <pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com… >> No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with >jesus. >Depends how far he wants to go.
I’m kinda wondering.. how can one guy be responsible for the fate of all humankind and the universe? I mean, i would love to believe all that, but i just don’t understand it. So far, i haven’t come across any intelligible explanation, other than "you just have to believe it". I also have a big problem with authority. Any ideas on this?
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"arie" <_arie_@_enschede_._com_> wrote on Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:49:42 GMT in alt.support.loneliness: > I’m kinda wondering.. how can one guy be responsible for > the fate of all humankind and the universe? I mean, i would > love to believe all that, but i just don’t understand it. > So far, i haven’t come across any intelligible explanation, > other than "you just have to believe it". I also have a big > problem with authority. Any ideas on this?
Yeah. You just have to believe it. That’s because the whole story about God saving you is fake. Nobody with one working brai cell believes it anyway. Save you from what? From his father (which is himself)?
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Yeah, but, when you go to a restaurant with Him, do you split the bill, or what? OTS "Parker_wears_dress" <pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com… > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with
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Good one. OTS "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3271bf15.0308242229.fc334a2@posting.google.com… > X-No-archive: yes > (Parker_wears_dress) wrote > > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with jesus. > "I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, YOU’RE NOT DRAGGING THAT CROSS OVER > MY LAWN!"
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"Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3271bf15.0308242229.fc334a2@posting.google.com… > X-No-archive: yes > (Parker_wears_dress) wrote > > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with jesus. > "I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, YOU’RE NOT DRAGGING THAT CROSS OVER > MY LAWN!"
We will return to "I Married Our Savior", after a word from Texaco. Scene 1: [Jesus, in garage, working on Nativity Scene] (well, you get the picture.)
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Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing Ability <Departm…@fkeepingitreal.gov> wrote: : "Michaela" <michaelamackenzie05072…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:3271bf15.0308242229.fc334a2@posting.google.com… :> X-No-archive: yes :> (Parker_wears_dress) wrote :> :> > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship : with jesus. :> :> "I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, YOU’RE NOT DRAGGING THAT CROSS OVER :> MY LAWN!" : We will return to "I Married Our Savior", after a word from Texaco. : Scene 1: [Jesus, in garage, working on Nativity Scene] : (well, you get the picture.) Best bumper sticker I ever saw: Jesus saves… Jesus shoots… Jesus scores… and the crowd goes wild…
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pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com (Parker_wears_dress) wrote in message <news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com>… > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with jesus.
This is actually quite easy here in Spain, as Jesus is a fairly common name round these parts. However, I don’t think having a relationship with someone called Jesus would be prima facie any more effective as a cure for loneliness than having a relationship with, say, a Juan or a Manuel or a Jose Maria. I’ve actually always felt sorry for the Jesuses here in Spain, since every time someone sneezes, their name is repeated by everyone in earshot ("Jesus" = "Bless you"). It must be quite confusing.
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"OB" <nevilemo…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6ebc501c.0308280724.3ad3de6f@posting.google.com… > pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com (Parker_wears_dress) wrote in message
<news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com>… > > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with jesus. > This is actually quite easy here in Spain, as Jesus is a fairly common > name round these parts. However, I don’t think having a relationship > with someone called Jesus would be prima facie any more effective as a > cure for loneliness than having a relationship with, say, a Juan or a > Manuel or a Jose Maria.
do you mean "Jeeee-Zus" or "Hey-Suess"? They’re totally different, phonetically speaking. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve actually always felt sorry for the Jesuses here in Spain, since > every time someone sneezes, their name is repeated by everyone in > earshot ("Jesus" = "Bless you"). It must be quite confusing.
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"Parker_wears_dress" <pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com… > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with
jesus. Depends how far he wants to go.
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Ouch. Hehehe. "Phil-on-a-hill" <philh…@home.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ykDgb.7614$RU4.71555@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Parker_wears_dress" <pynn_is_g…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:f8e3b18f.0308240141.7a617d39@posting.google.com… > > No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with > jesus. > Depends how far he wants to go.
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No excuse for being lonely if you are willing to have a relationship with jesus.
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