Benzos and alcohol ?

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A small amount of alcohol while taking bzd’s is not going to harm you. Just be easy on your liver and don’t drink a lot everyday. If you like to drink a lot then my advice to you would be to not drink at all. If you drink very moderately, it may even be beneficial to you. I use to have one or two carefully measured shot glasses of whiskey after work (approx. 2 oz) every day for years and suffered no ill effects. I did not drink anymore than that daily tho….hth Carl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, i know it’s not a good idea to mix these 2 at same time, but the warning bottle only says may increase drowsiness, just increases effect of drug when mixed with drinks. Neither the bottle, nor the pharmacist, nor the doctor tells you the mix could be fatal. I have mixed it more than a few times, more than I should I know, but have never had any problems, other than just feeling more relaxed … Is there any consensus on this ? Is being alarmist legitimate here ? If so, why no stronger warnings ? And, what kind of half-life on these pills. I take Rivotril (Klonopin pretty much every day), and like to have a few days a week, though not necesarily every day, and sometimes, on Friday night, I may have many drinks and just get really relaxed to unwind from boredom, loneliness , stress and anxiety of the week. Please help. I have had anxiety disorder for 20 years or so, need the pills to work, and keep my job, etc… I don’t need to drink, but honest to God, like a weak human being I will readily admit that it does become a very powerful crutch or tool to relax for an anxious person. In fact, alcohol works much better than the pills, just can’t work drunk…. Thanks — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, i know it’s not a good idea to mix these 2 at same time, but the warning bottle only says may increase drowsiness, just increases effect of drug when mixed with drinks. Neither the bottle, nor the pharmacist, nor the doctor tells you the mix could be fatal. I have mixed it more than a few times, more than I should I know, but have never had any problems, other than just feeling more relaxed … Is there any consensus on this ? Is being alarmist legitimate here ? If so, why no stronger warnings ? And, what kind of half-life on these pills. I take Rivotril (Klonopin pretty much every day), and like to have a few days a week, though not necesarily every day, and sometimes, on Friday night, I may have many drinks and  just get really relaxed to unwind from boredom, loneliness , stress and anxiety of the week. Please help. I have had anxiety disorder for 20 years or so, need the pills to work, and keep my job, etc… I don’t need to drink, but honest to God, like a weak human being I will readily admit that it does become a very powerful crutch or tool to relax for an anxious person. In fact, alcohol works much better than the pills, just can’t work drunk….

Alcohol also gives "rebound anxiety", so the more you drink today, the more anxiety you will have tomorrow.  Take it from me, a recovering alcoholic, you are better off not mixing the two. Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Now, i know it’s not a good idea to mix these 2 at same time, but the warning bottle only says may increase drowsiness, just increases effect of drug when mixed with drinks. Neither the bottle, nor the pharmacist, nor the doctor tells you the mix could be fatal. I have mixed it more than a few times, more than I should I know, but have never had any problems, other than just feeling more relaxed … Is there any consensus on this ? Is being alarmist legitimate here ? If so, why no stronger warnings ? And, what kind of half-life on these pills. I take Rivotril (Klonopin pretty much every day), and like to have a few days a week, though not necesarily every day, and sometimes, on Friday night, I may have many drinks and  just get really relaxed to unwind from boredom, loneliness , stress and anxiety of the week. Please help. I have had anxiety disorder for 20 years or so, need the pills to work, and keep my job, etc… I don’t need to drink, but honest to God, like a weak human being I will readily admit that it does become a very powerful crutch or tool to relax for an anxious person. In fact, alcohol works much better than the pills, just can’t work drunk…. Thanks — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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<gently snipped ::And, what kind of half-life on these pills. I take Rivotril (Klonopin pretty ::much every day), and like to have a few days a week, though not necesarily ::every day, and sometimes, on Friday night, I may have many drinks and  just ::get really relaxed to unwind from boredom, loneliness , stress and anxiety ::of the week. It`s obvious from your posts of the last few weeks that you are worried about your drinking. It can be dangerous to mix alcohol with benzos. You take rivotril everyday…… and sometime have ‘many’ drinks. The problem is no one can tell you how many drinks makes it ‘dangerous’ for ‘you’. It`s sort of like playing Russian roulette. Just because there aren`t dire warnings on your pill bottle about mixing benzos and alcohol, doesn`t mean it isn`t potentially dangerous. Google Karen Anne Quinlan. She got really relaxed from mixing alcohol and valium. It was the ‘vegetative’ kind of relaxing for ten years until her death. ::Please help. I have had anxiety disorder for 20 years or so, need the pills ::to work, and keep my job, etc… :: ::I don’t need to drink, but honest to God, like a weak human being I will ::readily admit that it does become a very powerful crutch or tool to relax ::for an anxious person. :: ::In fact, alcohol works much better than the pills, just can’t work drunk…. Are you really sure alcohol works that well? A lot of people get rebound anxiety when the alcohol wears off. That rebound anxiety either gets medicated with rivotril and/or a few more drinks, creating a vicious cycle. Please confide in your doctor about your drinking. If you need to self-medicate with alcohol, then your current med regime is obviously not working for you. I kindly suggest you look into joining AA as well. You are traveling down a dangerous path, one that will only make your life more difficult. I say all of this with great concern for you….. Jackie ~*~When you find yourself the victim of other people’s bitterness, ignorance, smallness or insecurities; remember, things could be worse.  You could be them~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, i know it’s not a good idea to mix these 2 at same time, but the warning bottle only says may increase drowsiness, just increases effect of drug when mixed with drinks. Neither the bottle, nor the pharmacist, nor the doctor tells you the mix could be fatal. I have mixed it more than a few times, more than I should I know, but have never had any problems, other than just feeling more relaxed … Is there any consensus on this ? Is being alarmist legitimate here ? If so, why no stronger warnings ? And, what kind of half-life on these pills. I take Rivotril (Klonopin pretty much every day), and like to have a few days a week, though not necesarily every day, and sometimes, on Friday night, I may have many drinks and  just get really relaxed to unwind from boredom, loneliness , stress and anxiety of the week. Please help. I have had anxiety disorder for 20 years or so, need the pills to work, and keep my job, etc… I don’t need to drink, but honest to God, like a weak human being I will readily admit that it does become a very powerful crutch or tool to relax for an anxious person. In fact, alcohol works much better than the pills, just can’t work drunk…. Thanks —

Last time I mixed Valium and alcohol I had no ill effects.  I felt pretty depressed afterwards but alcohol makes me that way all by itself.  I guess it’s YMMV. — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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