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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chief wrote: >While bowling the other night I was talking to a brother of mine (who happens >to >be very close to my son Eddie. In comes a black man and a white woman. >(Excuse >my lingo here), my brother says I really really hate that shit. I said it >doesn’t >bother me at all. He said well it does me. I than followed with a "What >abuot >Eddie?" My son Eddie has a black girlfriend and my grandchildren (who are >beautiful children by the way and the boy is Eddie the 4th, born on the 4th >of >July his grandpa from his moma’s sides middle name is Edward) from Eddie and >Nicole are therefore half black and half white. He responded with well >that’s >different. Seems his racism only goes as far as black men with white women, >not >the other way around. I felt sad, sad for my brother and sad for this >country to >just think there are sooooo many that are just plain color blind. I don’t >like or >dislike "anyone" because of there color, sex, religion period. If I dislike >someone it’s just because I dislike as a person not there entire race or >religion. Would never tell my son as it would hurt him, yet I feel I owe it >to >tell him. I won’t though, I just know me. >Hugs >Eddie (Chief)
Dear Chief….I don’t think you have to tell your son….he’ll find out sooner or later anyway about how his friend feels. Very recently my daughter taught me a very important lesson. Now, you have to remember that I born and raised in rural Alabama….and taught from birth to be racist. Many years ago, I moved to Atlanta, and found that all the things I had been taught were totally wrong !! Yet…a part of me still resisted the idea of interacial relationships. My daughter…who is still too young to date…asked me not too long ago if I would allow her to go out with a black guy. My initial and instant response was "no." She asked why. I stumbled around for an answer and could only come up with "because you’re white and the cultures are different." She instantly responded with "but we’re all God’s children, aren’t we?" At that point, I realized that "I" was wrong in my thinking ! I also realized that although I could accept my white daughter going out with a black guy….that society as a whole would reject them and they would be subjected to people that think like I did…and your brother does….and thus, she would suffer. I have no idea where I’m going with this …. <smile> Anyway…I guess the bright side of all of this is that the racism is not being instilled in the children being brought up these days. They’re looking at each other as children of God….not as "black" or "white" … and I’m learning each day to be able to do the same — through my child. As a side note….she also asked her Dad the same question and he told her he didn’t mind if she had black friends, but he wouldn’t want her dating a black guy. Then she asked her Grandmother…who told her she didn’t care what color they were….as long as she (my daughter) was happy. Isn’t it odd that her Grandmother gave the best answer ….the "right" answer ? :-) Hugs and Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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In article 3AA3DBD8.8E9CB…@banet.net, Popeye at spoo…@banet.net wrote on 3/5/01 12:32: > While bowling the other night I was talking to a brother of mine (who happens > to be very close to my son Eddie. In comes a black man and a white woman. > (Excuse my lingo here), my brother says I really really hate that shit. I > said it doesn’t bother me at all.
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Sorry I haven’t been on more but I am just having a lovely time with a NG server to get and give mail from and I am still working on finding one that I can use at home that will work correctly. The one I have right now will sometimes not download all posts and then just dump a weeks worth at one time. Hope to be more on!!! ;-P Take care! — Paul Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Hopeless Endeavours PS I would love the day when we as a race will grow up enough to take responsibility for our lacks (IE racism, destruction of the environment, etc) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Unicorn" <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3aa37b86_1@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… > giggle.. Hello Paul.. missed you.. haven’t seen much of your posting.. > You are right.. if it was not color of skin their would be another > method to "class" people and humans that are negative would find > something to differentiate people .. isn’t the net glorious.. we’re > communicating with our souls instead of with our shells.. people like > people for the who is within them.. instead of the appearance of the > shell.. could that be a clue to the future in destroying prejudice? > When souls touch.. we find the truth of man, it is not money, power, > color, country, social status, fame, politics or lifestyle that is the > value of us.. but the soul inside of us that we share and reflect > outward to all.. we are all equal and the same inside.. > Pamela > "Demiurge" <phoffman_…@ispchannel.com> wrote in message > news:WMDo6.21$BB.25625726@news.sisna.com… > That is alright if those people didn’t have skin color to hate someone > for, it would be for something else! Maybe then they would go for nose > size or foot size. Just think then the master race would only wear a > size 7 shoe! Or how about the only perfect people have Roman style > noses, and everyone else is inferior. > If I got to choose a color I would choose green and I would probably > hate that color (oh, the monotony!) from that day on!! ;-) > — > Paul > Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Hopeless Endeavours > Recognizes the futility of killing discrimination and hate. ;-( > "Unicorn" <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3a9fbfcd_3@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… > > If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you > > make them? Green, Purple.. or other? > > Pamela
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Paul wrote: >That is alright if those people didn’t have skin color to hate someone >for, it would be for something else! Maybe then they would go for nose >size or foot size. Just think then the master race would only wear a >size 7 shoe! Or how about the only perfect people have Roman style >noses, and everyone else is inferior. >If I got to choose a color I would choose green and I would probably >hate that color (oh, the monotony!) from that day on!! ;-)
Hi Paul !! How have you been doing ? Yeah….sad, but true….I figure people are always going to find something to justify their prejudice. Hey…I wear a size 7 shoe!! <laugh> Of course, I believe this must be the most common size….’cause almost every time I find a shoe I like….all the size 7’s are gone !!! "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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Hey Paul….. Oops…that send icon jumped up and my mouse clicked, too soon. :-) Anway….green, huh ? Then we could blend in with much of Mother Nature…or were you thinking of the color of money ? <laugh> How are things at school ? Hope all is well with you….and don’t be gone for so long !! Hugs and Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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While bowling the other night I was talking to a brother of mine (who happens to be very close to my son Eddie. In comes a black man and a white woman. (Excuse my lingo here), my brother says I really really hate that shit. I said it doesn’t bother me at all. He said well it does me. I than followed with a "What abuot Eddie?" My son Eddie has a black girlfriend and my grandchildren (who are beautiful children by the way and the boy is Eddie the 4th, born on the 4th of July his grandpa from his moma’s sides middle name is Edward) from Eddie and Nicole are therefore half black and half white. He responded with well that’s different. Seems his racism only goes as far as black men with white women, not the other way around. I felt sad, sad for my brother and sad for this country to just think there are sooooo many that are just plain color blind. I don’t like or dislike "anyone" because of there color, sex, religion period. If I dislike someone it’s just because I dislike as a person not there entire race or religion. Would never tell my son as it would hurt him, yet I feel I owe it to tell him. I won’t though, I just know me. Hugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gina wrote: > Pamela wrote: > (friendly snip) > >You are right.. if it was not color of skin their would be another > >method to "class" people and humans that are negative would find > >something to differentiate people .. > Wait a minute….I’m just a little confused. Isn’t that basically what I said > and you decided it was a sign that I still had unresolved anger ? Of course, > it could be that you have some unresolved anger and that is why you related to > my comment the way you did. Just trying to gain some understanding…. > Smiles, > Gina > "Some days are diamonds… > Some days are rocks…. > Some doors are open… > Some roads are blocked…" > —Tom Petty > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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giggle.. Hello Paul.. missed you.. haven’t seen much of your posting.. You are right.. if it was not color of skin their would be another method to "class" people and humans that are negative would find something to differentiate people .. isn’t the net glorious.. we’re communicating with our souls instead of with our shells.. people like people for the who is within them.. instead of the appearance of the shell.. could that be a clue to the future in destroying prejudice? When souls touch.. we find the truth of man, it is not money, power, color, country, social status, fame, politics or lifestyle that is the value of us.. but the soul inside of us that we share and reflect outward to all.. we are all equal and the same inside.. Pamela "Demiurge" <phoffman_…@ispchannel.com> wrote in message
news:WMDo6.21$BB.25625726@news.sisna.com… That is alright if those people didn’t have skin color to hate someone for, it would be for something else! Maybe then they would go for nose size or foot size. Just think then the master race would only wear a size 7 shoe! Or how about the only perfect people have Roman style noses, and everyone else is inferior. If I got to choose a color I would choose green and I would probably hate that color (oh, the monotony!) from that day on!! ;-) — Paul Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Hopeless Endeavours Recognizes the futility of killing discrimination and hate. ;-( "Unicorn" <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a9fbfcd_3@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you > make them? Green, Purple.. or other? > Pamela
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Pamela wrote:
(friendly snip) >You are right.. if it was not color of skin their would be another >method to "class" people and humans that are negative would find >something to differentiate people ..
Wait a minute….I’m just a little confused. Isn’t that basically what I said and you decided it was a sign that I still had unresolved anger ? Of course, it could be that you have some unresolved anger and that is why you related to my comment the way you did. Just trying to gain some understanding…. Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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Aaaaaaaaaah! I’d forgotten about Barney! Drop the purple! Nick "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010304105147.04985.00000149@ng-fr1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I vote for the colors purple and green. We need some variety on this > >planet. > You want a world full of "Barneys" ???!!!!! > Hugs and Smiles, > Gina > "Some days are diamonds… > Some days are rocks…. > Some doors are open… > Some roads are blocked…" > —Tom Petty > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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I like that! Yes! A mixture of *all* colors! "adrian" <adria…@sti.com.br> wrote in message
news:ta4lilqd3ul39d@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A mixture of all colours. > Adrian > Unicorn <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> > mensagem:3a9fbfc…@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… > > If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you > > make them? Green, Purple.. or other? > > Pamela
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That is alright if those people didn’t have skin color to hate someone for, it would be for something else! Maybe then they would go for nose size or foot size. Just think then the master race would only wear a size 7 shoe! Or how about the only perfect people have Roman style noses, and everyone else is inferior. If I got to choose a color I would choose green and I would probably hate that color (oh, the monotony!) from that day on!! ;-) — Paul Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Hopeless Endeavours Recognizes the futility of killing discrimination and hate. ;-( – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Unicorn" <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3a9fbfcd_3@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… > If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you > make them? Green, Purple.. or other? > Pamela
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You’re not a Barneyphobe are you?! How about blue and white? On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:31:20 GMT, "Nicholas Temple" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<nltem…@earthlink.net> wrote: >Aaaaaaaaaah! I’d forgotten about Barney! Drop the purple! >Nick >"Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message >news:20010304105147.04985.00000149@ng-fr1.aol.com… >> >I vote for the colors purple and green. We need some variety on this >> >planet. >> You want a world full of "Barneys" ???!!!!! >> Hugs and Smiles, >> Gina >> "Some days are diamonds… >> Some days are rocks…. >> Some doors are open… >> Some roads are blocked…" >> —Tom Petty >> http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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>A mixture of all colours. >Adrian
Hey now…that’s not such a bad idea !! Oh wait…do you mean that each person would be a mixture of colors, or that we would have different colors like we do now ? Oh well…It really doesn’t matter. It isn’t the color that makes the person anyway. :-) Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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A rainbow then.. sounds wonderful Pamela "adrian" <adria…@sti.com.br> wrote in message
news:ta4lilqd3ul39d@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A mixture of all colours. > Adrian > Unicorn <Xunicorn_4_ma…@yahoo.com> > mensagem:3a9fbfc…@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com… > > If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you > > make them? Green, Purple.. or other? > > Pamela
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Ok Gina.. you have a choice.. and no one’s attacking you.. and perhaps I don’t know you, for the you I know is loving and kind but quite easily agitated and opinionated.. hugs… continue on.. just do or say what you have to to detox the stress I miss the happy go lucky and warm side of you Pamela "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010304110146.04985.00000150@ng-fr1.aol.com… > >I worry for you Gina.. I care and I love you and miss you posting > >here, your like a sister to me… but your last words I read.. show no > >change in your hatred of simply a poster .. one who ignored the hits > >for almost a year.. who is prejudice against who? Where does it end? > >Have you enough faith in God.. to let it end? > >Pamela > It’s very sweet of you to say that you worry about me.
Please…stop worrying – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> about me; and please stop analyzing everything I say and trying to bring it > back to a past I was hoping would be forgotten and never brought up here again. > For the record…I do not "hate" raf; I wish him no harm; I simply hate his > ways….not the person. > With all due respect, Pamela….you are too judgmental. I know….I said I > was leaving, but I thought I should address the outstanding digs first, lest > they be believed by some. You don’t know me as well as you think and try to > make others believe you do. You don’t know me at all, Pamela….or if you do, > then you’re doing an excellent job hiding it. Only God and I know what is in > my heart. > Gina > "My, my…The greatest lies > Are often said without a word…. > My, my…The kindest truths > Are often spoke, but never heard…" > —Ben Folds Five
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>I vote for the colors purple and green. We need some variety on this >planet.
You want a world full of "Barneys" ???!!!!! Hugs and Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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>I worry for you Gina.. I care and I love you and miss you posting >here, your like a sister to me… but your last words I read.. show no >change in your hatred of simply a poster .. one who ignored the hits >for almost a year.. who is prejudice against who? Where does it end? >Have you enough faith in God.. to let it end? >Pamela
It’s very sweet of you to say that you worry about me. Please…stop worrying about me; and please stop analyzing everything I say and trying to bring it back to a past I was hoping would be forgotten and never brought up here again. For the record…I do not "hate" raf; I wish him no harm; I simply hate his ways….not the person. With all due respect, Pamela….you are too judgmental. I know….I said I was leaving, but I thought I should address the outstanding digs first, lest they be believed by some. You don’t know me as well as you think and try to make others believe you do. You don’t know me at all, Pamela….or if you do, then you’re doing an excellent job hiding it. Only God and I know what is in my heart. Gina "My, my…The greatest lies Are often said without a word…. My, my…The kindest truths Are often spoke, but never heard…" —Ben Folds Five
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We need some help down here.. no matter what color is chosen.. Pamela "Nicholas Temple" <nltem…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:v5ho6.12433$7Y1.1310942@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I vote for the colors purple and green. We need some variety on this > planet. > "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20010303195423.05020.00000205@ng-fr1.aol.com… > > >pink men.. now that’s reality concept.. do you think if men were pink, > > >they would wear more flashy colors and have fun with their clothes a > > >bit? > > >And.. the shades of pink would continue allowance of prejudice.. > > >dontcha think? > > >Pamela > > Ahhh….now I’ve always said that "real" men don’t fear wearing pink. :-) > > Okay…so we’ll just keep it one shade of pink, but it surely would be a > dull > > world with only one color of people… and even with only one color, some > would > > still find "something" with which to be prejudiced, be it lifestyle, > culture, > > religion, etc. But is "is" a nice thought to have a world with no > prejudice. > > Hugs and Smiles, > > Gina > > "You have to cry without weeping; > > Talk without speaking; > > Scream without raising your voice…" > > —U2 > > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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mmm.. reminded me of something my Grandma used to say.. Prejudice is born of the small minded and those that do not understand God’s true meaning, nor the reason behind the language and the punishment or challenge in splitting of man’s external colors.. to ever remember some merely quote the bible text in word and not deed.. I don’t believe in small mindedness.. but love and forgiveness instead which allows you a much broader scope in life’s reality. I choose to forgive.. for I was forgiven.. The world can be as twas dreamed.. if only those of true faith openly follow and believe.. that means.. none should nail another to a cross but instead.. have faith in God’s judgment, for we are not capable of judging man, we are flawed.. and to not simply believe man’s interpretation of the "reality" of the total concept.. I believe in man’s innate goodness.. I would not follow Satan and "judge" another, nor damn them to utter loneliness.. in either support group on the internet.. or in "real" life.. I worry for you Gina.. I care and I love you and miss you posting here, your like a sister to me… but your last words I read.. show no change in your hatred of simply a poster .. one who ignored the hits for almost a year.. who is prejudice against who? Where does it end? Have you enough faith in God.. to let it end? Pamela "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010303195423.05020.00000205@ng-fr1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >pink men.. now that’s reality concept.. do you think if men were pink, > >they would wear more flashy colors and have fun with their clothes a > >bit? > >And.. the shades of pink would continue allowance of prejudice.. > >dontcha think? > >Pamela > Ahhh….now I’ve always said that "real" men don’t fear wearing pink. :-) > Okay…so we’ll just keep it one shade of pink, but it surely would be a dull > world with only one color of people… and even with only one color, some would > still find "something" with which to be prejudiced, be it lifestyle, culture, > religion, etc. But is "is" a nice thought to have a world with no prejudice. > Hugs and Smiles, > Gina > "You have to cry without weeping; > Talk without speaking; > Scream without raising your voice…" > —U2 > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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>pink men.. now that’s reality concept.. do you think if men were pink, >they would wear more flashy colors and have fun with their clothes a >bit? >And.. the shades of pink would continue allowance of prejudice.. >dontcha think? >Pamela
Ahhh….now I’ve always said that "real" men don’t fear wearing pink. :-) Okay…so we’ll just keep it one shade of pink, but it surely would be a dull world with only one color of people… and even with only one color, some would still find "something" with which to be prejudiced, be it lifestyle, culture, religion, etc. But is "is" a nice thought to have a world with no prejudice. Hugs and Smiles, Gina "You have to cry without weeping; Talk without speaking; Scream without raising your voice…" —U2 http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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I vote for the colors purple and green. We need some variety on this planet. "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010303195423.05020.00000205@ng-fr1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >pink men.. now that’s reality concept.. do you think if men were pink, > >they would wear more flashy colors and have fun with their clothes a > >bit? > >And.. the shades of pink would continue allowance of prejudice.. > >dontcha think? > >Pamela > Ahhh….now I’ve always said that "real" men don’t fear wearing pink. :-) > Okay…so we’ll just keep it one shade of pink, but it surely would be a dull > world with only one color of people… and even with only one color, some would > still find "something" with which to be prejudiced, be it lifestyle, culture, > religion, etc. But is "is" a nice thought to have a world with no prejudice. > Hugs and Smiles, > Gina > "You have to cry without weeping; > Talk without speaking; > Scream without raising your voice…" > —U2 > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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Definitely Pink !! Umm…could we make them different shades of pink ? :-) Hugs and Smiles, Gina "Some days are diamonds… Some days are rocks…. Some doors are open… Some roads are blocked…" —Tom Petty http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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pink men.. now that’s reality concept.. do you think if men were pink, they would wear more flashy colors and have fun with their clothes a bit? And.. the shades of pink would continue allowance of prejudice.. dontcha think? Pamela "Gina" <lawda…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010303100805.18396.00000348@ng-mk1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Definitely Pink !! Umm…could we make them different shades of pink ? :-) > Hugs and Smiles, > Gina > "Some days are diamonds… > Some days are rocks…. > Some doors are open… > Some roads are blocked…" > —Tom Petty > http://hometown.aol.com//lawdawga/HomePpage.html
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If you could make people.. all the same color.. what color would you make them? Green, Purple.. or other? Pamela
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