Has anybody heard from Ric today?
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Maddogg wrote: > I don’t understand your point in posting that…
I will tell you that my first reaction to his posting it was that he was trying to suggest that I was the reason ric left asl. I went to find that post because I did not recall mentioning that *anyone* walk away. And I find that I, in fact, did not state that anyone should walk away from asl, nor even "suggest" it. But, perhaps I was wrong about his motive. He had only ric’s words to interpret my post. I think, perhaps, he only wished to show support for his friend and he was not aware that I had already offered those links to anyone who wished to have them. And perhaps he thought to make some stop yelling for ric to come back by telling them that ric had no intention of coming back. All "suppositions" on my part. I have reposted my post. It is there for anyone to see. I know you feel very strongly about the loss of one whom you called friend. I’m sorry. Hugs, Jae > —
"Freedom is the right to be wrong…. Not the right to do wrong……" —John G. Riefenbaker
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Posted and Mailed: In article <7mk4mm$9r…@nnrp1.deja.com>, obl…@my-deja.com wrote: >The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for >those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable >posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the >best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this >group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list >of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was >included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which >I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its >way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as >I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my >own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: <snip>
But….I thought you only came back to make friends. Actually, OB, I knew better from the beginning when you twisted my words around….remember ? I said time would tell….and I guess it didn’t take very long in this instance. You have just ruined all credibility you might have had…..and I really was hoping I was wrong about you. Smiling through the frustration and hurt….. Gina I should care if the wind blows east or west I should fret if the worst looks like the best I should mind if they say it can’t be true I should smile that’s exactly what I do —Irving Berlin
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I’ve read this over and over, OB, and I somehow don’t think you’re going to understand the reaction you get from some people on it. Even my own first reaction is that I was being "blamed" by you or "used" by ric. And I don’t just fire off answers to posts. I try to analyze why I might feel a certain way. Somehow, I still think you thought you were doing something good. And not just for ric. But, it didn’t come off that way. I’d be the last person to deny that ric did a lot of good for this group, but though I might not be the first one to jump and say your recollection isn’t real good in reference to the fact he "harmed no one", I’ll have to tell you that isn’t true. ric’s no more a saint than I am or anybody else. I’ve said before and I’ll say again, he’s just another poster, just like yourself and just like me. No more important and no less important. About the only thing harming ric’s reputation right now are some people who came on this group acting like trolls and extolling ric’s virtues. Tends to make people leery of someone that people who go around causing trouble and harm to others, call "friend", you know? Just my thoughts on the subject and I hope they’ll help you understand some of the reaction you get to this post. Jae – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -obl…@my-deja.com wrote: > The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for > those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable > posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the > best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this > group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list > of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was > included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which > I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its > way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as > I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my > own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: > "I must credit Jae with a wise post on December 14th, 1998 in > which she suggested much what you suggest in point number 5., adding > that walking away and putting things in perspective and ignoring the > flames is much better than fanning them… though Jae put the peace > message more eloquently… I respected the suggestion enough to walk > away and have felt great about the decision, even though ego does miss > challenge of the public arena…" > My impression from what he says is that he has no plans to return to > this group, and doesn’t actually read it, but appreciates contact with > any and all group posters (email or ICQ). > OB
– "Freedom is the right to be wrong…. Not the right to do wrong……" —John G. Riefenbaker
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Let’s keep some hope….:) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Bill" (mrb…@albedo.net) writes: > Wow the beat does go on and it never changes. Yep I’m home! > Here to stay > Bill > Gina R12 wrote in message <19990714155900.19037.00000…@ngol02.aol.com>… >>In article <7mig3c$2gk_…@news.earthlink.net>, maddo…@earthlink.net >>(Maddogg) writes: >>>Speak for yourself, troll… you damned sure do >>>not speak for me… >>> Michael >>Nor does he speak for me. Where "do" they come up with all these >>cheerleaders?! >>Oh no !!! Maybe they’re cloning themselves !! …..or possibly cheering >>themselves on by posting under other names….hmmmmmm ? It breaks my > heart to >>think that a few people get together and make an unconscionable effort to > cause >>as much suspicion and disruption as has been done here by raff and his > friends. >> It literally makes me cry. And…they are so good in their manipulation > and >>deception….they must have had a lot of practice. <sigh> >>trying hard to smile through the tears, >>Gina >>I should care if the wind blows east or west >>I should fret if the worst looks like the best >>I should mind if they say it can’t be true >>I should smile that’s exactly what I do >> —Irving Berlin
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In article <7mk6q8$3k0_…@news.earthlink.net>, maddo…@earthlink.net (Maddogg) wrote: > I don’t understand your point in posting that… and I > guess, there goes your strong beliefs about posting > private email…
my point in posting was that I had seen an enquiry about Ric and thought that there could be no harm in letting his friends know how to contact him, if they wished to do so. As for posting private mail, the message I referred to and quoted briefly from, appeared on two public mailing lists, was mailed to a fairly large number of people and, in addition, contained the following words: "feel free to carry it there if you think it’s appropriate and would server some useful purpose…" "there" being contextually a reference to this group. > And you are wrong, unless *I* am "no one"… I was > harmed by ric’s manipulations, and deceit… and I for > one, am sick of having ric crammed down my throat, > and constantly reminded of the backstabbing, and > betrayal, I suffered at ric’s hands… someone I once > trusted… but I will never be that foolish again… You > have no idea of how wounded, and hurt I was, by his > disloyalty, and betrayal… > Michael
I am sorry. I was not aware of any hurt you had suffered at Ric’s hands. I am not trying to cram anyone down anyone’s throat… it just seemed to me that there may be people on the group who remember him kindly and might wish to contact him. My apologies if I have offended you, it was certainly not my intention to do so. OB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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In article <378DAED7.46974…@ccms.net>, LadyJae <Lady…@ccms.net> wrote: > I will tell you that my first reaction to his posting it was that he was > trying to suggest that I was the reason ric left asl. I went to find that > post because I did not recall mentioning that *anyone* walk away.
Oh dear. I seem to have blundered into something unexpected here… I certainly had no intention of even hinting that, and I am sure that if he were here Ric would be the first to say that no, of course you were not the reason he left. My interpretation of the lines I quoted was simply that they contained a sincere, respectful and supportive reference to a previous post of yours which he did not quote and which I have not seen. I saw this as evidence that, whatever the exact contents of that post may have been, he remembered you (along with many others on this group) with respect and affection. That’s all. OB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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In article <378DC93B.15DB1…@ccms.net>, LadyJae <Lady…@ccms.net> wrote: > I’ve read this over and over, OB, and I somehow don’t think you’re going > to understand the reaction you get from some people on it.
You’re right. I give up. I’m sorry if the quote was inappropriate, but to me it just seemed friendly, conciliatory and harmless – even bridge-building. I am sorry if it is wrong to let people know how to contact other people. From now on, I will make no further mention of Ric. But he still happens to be a friend of mine – does anyone mind? OB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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obl…@my-deja.com wrote: > You’re right. I give up. I’m sorry if the quote was inappropriate, but > to me it just seemed friendly, conciliatory and harmless – even > bridge-building. I am sorry if it is wrong to let people know how to > contact other people. > From now on, I will make no further mention of Ric. But he still happens > to be a friend of mine – does anyone mind? > OB
I thought that what you say here and in your other post might be the case. I accept that. I do not think it wrong to let people know how to contact someone if that "someone" has no objection and in this case, since ric himself posts these links at the bottom of his mail and on his web site, I do not believe he has an objection. As I mentioned in a response early this morning, I offered the information to any who wished to have it myself. I don’t think there is truly a problem with your mentioning ric. You were not here at the time that we had either one troll using three different names or "some" people writing under one acct, etc. But, they/he/she made much of accusing a few of us of murdering ric and much else. To the point that several people were worried and some of us did some investigating in real life. Gina especially. Then, ric’s name still kept being thrown around by a troll/trolls and raf batted it around quite a bit when he hit again. Hopefully, some of this information will help you further understand some reactions to your post. Jae — "Freedom is the right to be wrong…. Not the right to do wrong……" —John G. Riefenbaker
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And I do indeed recall Michael. Hope your doing well buddy. Hugs Eddie(Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Maddogg wrote: > I don’t understand your point in posting that… and I > guess, there goes your strong beliefs about posting > private email… > And you are wrong, unless *I* am "no one"… I was > harmed by ric’s manipulations, and deceit… and I for > one, am sick of having ric crammed down my throat, > and constantly reminded of the backstabbing, and > betrayal, I suffered at ric’s hands… someone I once > trusted… but I will never be that foolish again… You > have no idea of how wounded, and hurt I was, by his > disloyalty, and betrayal… > Michael > In article <7mk4mm$9r…@nnrp1.deja.com>, obl…@my-deja.com wrote: > >The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for > >those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable > >posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the > >best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this > >group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list > >of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was > >included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which > >I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its > >way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as > >I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my > >own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: > <snipped>
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Actually affection is just one side of the coin. The flip side wasn’t so nice. Again I say "Just a Thought" could generate honest dialog. Hugs Eddie (chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -obl…@my-deja.com wrote: > The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for > those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable > posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the > best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this > group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list > of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was > included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which > I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its > way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as > I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my > own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: > "I must credit Jae with a wise post on December 14th, 1998 in > which she suggested much what you suggest in point number 5., adding > that walking away and putting things in perspective and ignoring the > flames is much better than fanning them… though Jae put the peace > message more eloquently… I respected the suggestion enough to walk > away and have felt great about the decision, even though ego does miss > challenge of the public arena…" > My impression from what he says is that he has no plans to return to > this group, and doesn’t actually read it, but appreciates contact with > any and all group posters (email or ICQ). > OB > ********* END OF MESSAGE; START OF RIC’S "SIGFILE" ************+ > JULY SIGFILE: to friends and anyone who cares to know more… still, due > to a > busy life, I’m trying to keep in touch on the web… I’ve been updating > and > posting weekly letters to you (and to curious onlookers too > please check the webpages and read nothing negative in passing time, > cuz especially in my silent times, your feedback means a lot to me… > * * * * pages last added to on July 11, 1999 * * * * > My Home Page (The Front Door) > http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/anonanonanon.html > My "Keep In Touch" Page (real life, whatever that is) > http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/anonanon.html > last update: http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/KIT990516.html > —some of the latest news (for ye of little time 
> http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/worklife3.html > A Brief Introduction to Anonanonanon (Me, for ye of much time) > http://www.hotstart.com/wp/hotstartanon.shtml > The Written Gardens (where the rhymes and letters grow) > http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/gardens/gardensmain.html > Mailing List Info (for kids, teens, everybody who enjoys email) > http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/mlinfo.html > Another Support for Loneliness (The ASL Website) > http://homepages.go.com/~aslhome/aslhome.html > …a friend is a stranger willing to meet you halfway, > or even come all the way over when necessary… > ICQ – 2119422 > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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Ditto. Still can be worked on though. Hugs Eddie(Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frans wrote: > P&M > —–Original Message—– > From: obl…@my-deja.com <obl…@my-deja.com> > Newsgroups: alt.support.loneliness > Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:04 AM > Subject: Ric’s ICQ and Web addresses (Was: Has anybody heard from Ric > today?) > …. and harmed no-one > This is NOT true, and you know it isn’t > Frans
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Nice try, " "gang" stirrer!":) but…. they granted me my wish in THIS lifetime! What do you know! I now AM a brickhouse! Sorry, too late with your siding material, which I thus chopped and stirfried with broccoli and cowliflower (and thyme:)). -Guy Ding Gal
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If not today, we can’t forget our friend Ric. Who knows if and when will join…. In article <7mgq70$…@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote: > Nice try, " "gang" stirrer!":) > but…. they granted me my wish in THIS lifetime! What do you > know!
*giggle* > I now AM a brickhouse! Sorry, too late with your siding > material, which I thus chopped and stirfried with > broccoli and cowliflower (and thyme:)).
… and bringing beautiful broccoli, and swifty swimming softdolphins, and much much more. *** COME BACK RIC! *** We want *you*! > -Guy Ding Gal
The Giggle Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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Ric Who? Hugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -le…@my-deja.com wrote: > If not today, we can’t forget our friend Ric. > Who knows if and when will join…. > In article <7mgq70$…@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote: > > Nice try, " "gang" stirrer!":) > > but…. they granted me my wish in THIS lifetime! What do you > > know! > *giggle* > > I now AM a brickhouse! Sorry, too late with your siding > > material, which I thus chopped and stirfried with > > broccoli and cowliflower (and thyme:)). > … and bringing beautiful broccoli, and swifty swimming > softdolphins, and much much more. > *** COME BACK RIC! *** > We want *you*! > > -Guy Ding Gal > The Giggle > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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Speak for yourself, troll… you damned sure do not speak for me… Michael In article <7mh8k6$8t…@nnrp1.deja.com>, le…@my-deja.com wrote:
<raffaele’s troll-speak snipped> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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In article <378C9C19.8B7D…@banet.net>, Chief <spoo…@banet.net> writes: >Ric Who? >Hugs >Eddie (Chief)
My "exact" thought !!!! Hugs and Smiles, Gina I should care if the wind blows east or west I should fret if the worst looks like the best I should mind if they say it can’t be true I should smile that’s exactly what I do —Irving Berlin
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In article <7mig3c$2gk_…@news.earthlink.net>, maddo…@earthlink.net (Maddogg) writes: >Speak for yourself, troll… you damned sure do >not speak for me… > Michael
Nor does he speak for me. Where "do" they come up with all these cheerleaders?! Oh no !!! Maybe they’re cloning themselves !! …..or possibly cheering themselves on by posting under other names….hmmmmmm ? It breaks my heart to think that a few people get together and make an unconscionable effort to cause as much suspicion and disruption as has been done here by raff and his friends. It literally makes me cry. And…they are so good in their manipulation and deception….they must have had a lot of practice. <sigh> trying hard to smile through the tears, Gina I should care if the wind blows east or west I should fret if the worst looks like the best I should mind if they say it can’t be true I should smile that’s exactly what I do —Irving Berlin
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Well it was said in good humor sort of like the ecards. Yankee Hugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gina R12 wrote: > In article <378C9C19.8B7D…@banet.net>, Chief <spoo…@banet.net> writes: > >Ric Who? > >Hugs > >Eddie (Chief) > My "exact" thought !!!! > Hugs and Smiles, > Gina > I should care if the wind blows east or west > I should fret if the worst looks like the best > I should mind if they say it can’t be true > I should smile that’s exactly what I do > —Irving Berlin
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>Well it was said in good humor sort of like the ecards. >Yankee Hugs >Eddie (Chief)
Oh yes….absolutely !!! Hugs and Smiles, Gina I should care if the wind blows east or west I should fret if the worst looks like the best I should mind if they say it can’t be true I should smile that’s exactly what I do —Irving Berlin
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Wow the beat does go on and it never changes. Yep I’m home! Here to stay Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gina R12 wrote in message <19990714155900.19037.00000…@ngol02.aol.com>… >In article <7mig3c$2gk_…@news.earthlink.net>, maddo…@earthlink.net >(Maddogg) writes: >>Speak for yourself, troll… you damned sure do >>not speak for me… >> Michael >Nor does he speak for me. Where "do" they come up with all these >cheerleaders?! >Oh no !!! Maybe they’re cloning themselves !! …..or possibly cheering >themselves on by posting under other names….hmmmmmm ? It breaks my heart to >think that a few people get together and make an unconscionable effort to cause >as much suspicion and disruption as has been done here by raff and his friends. > It literally makes me cry. And…they are so good in their manipulation and >deception….they must have had a lot of practice. <sigh> >trying hard to smile through the tears, >Gina >I should care if the wind blows east or west >I should fret if the worst looks like the best >I should mind if they say it can’t be true >I should smile that’s exactly what I do > —Irving Berlin
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The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: "I must credit Jae with a wise post on December 14th, 1998 in which she suggested much what you suggest in point number 5., adding that walking away and putting things in perspective and ignoring the flames is much better than fanning them… though Jae put the peace message more eloquently… I respected the suggestion enough to walk away and have felt great about the decision, even though ego does miss challenge of the public arena…" My impression from what he says is that he has no plans to return to this group, and doesn’t actually read it, but appreciates contact with any and all group posters (email or ICQ). OB ********* END OF MESSAGE; START OF RIC’S "SIGFILE" ************+ JULY SIGFILE: to friends and anyone who cares to know more… still, due to a busy life, I’m trying to keep in touch on the web… I’ve been updating and posting weekly letters to you (and to curious onlookers too please check the webpages and read nothing negative in passing time, cuz especially in my silent times, your feedback means a lot to me… * * * * pages last added to on July 11, 1999 * * * * My Home Page (The Front Door) http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/anonanonanon.html My "Keep In Touch" Page (real life, whatever that is) http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/anonanon.html last update: http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/KIT990516.html —some of the latest news (for ye of little time http://homepages.go.com/~anonanon/worklife3.html A Brief Introduction to Anonanonanon (Me, for ye of much time) http://www.hotstart.com/wp/hotstartanon.shtml The Written Gardens (where the rhymes and letters grow) http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/gardens/gardensmain.html Mailing List Info (for kids, teens, everybody who enjoys email) http://homepages.go.com/~anonanonanon/mlinfo.html Another Support for Loneliness (The ASL Website) http://homepages.go.com/~aslhome/aslhome.html …a friend is a stranger willing to meet you halfway, or even come all the way over when necessary… ICQ – 2119422 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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obl…@my-deja.com wrote: > I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as > I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my > own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following: > "I must credit Jae with a wise post on December 14th, 1998 in > which she suggested much what you suggest in point number 5., adding > that walking away and putting things in perspective and ignoring the > flames is much better than fanning them… though Jae put the peace > message more eloquently… I respected the suggestion enough to walk > away and have felt great about the decision, even though ego does miss > challenge of the public arena…"
This is the only post I made on December 14th, 1998: A few of you can holster your guns. I’m just riding through. Not planning on taking up housekeeping. Please note that you will be unable to reply to me at the above address. It is fake. There are reasons for that. I denied myself the support and comfort that I knew I would find in this group from those that care for me. I did that for a couple of reasons, but one of those reasons was that I did not wish to become a focal point of a war. I did not wish to fight old battles or new battles. I have neither the strength nor the desire. I felt that if I came back here, there are those that would take pot shots at me and someone would go after them and then I would feel that I must defend them……and on and on……and there would be more of fighting and less of caring and supporting in this group…..and so…..I stayed away. I find that even my not being here did not stop words aimed at me intended to harm. It might have been thought that since I did not respond to the kind of garbage that was spewed about me shortly after I left the group, that I would not respond this time. Just goes to prove you never can tell what a woman will do. <smile> I did not respond to that garbage then because I saw no need to. Those that know me and that I care for would not believe it…….and those that chose to base their opinion of me on that kind of trash…..well…..they probably aren’t people I’d care to know anyway. I’d have let this go by, too, except that it seems to be disturbing others. Especially Paula. And, darlin’, please don’t let it bother you. It does not harm me. for I have not given the power to harm to those who would say such things. I learned trust in this group…….and I learned, also in this group, that trusting too easily allows betrayal and harm. I have a suggestion. I think this war can be stopped. Not easily and not by only one or two people. It would take a united effort. When someone says things that harm one you care about, I suggest that no one respond to that post. That no one carry their words. That no one give them the attention they seek. Instead, make a new thread. One that does not mention the abuser’s name or carry their words. Such as, "Support for……..". Then, speak your heart for that person. Tell them that you feel words to harm them were said and you wish to offer your caring and support if they have been harmed by those words. Then, if the abuser should make a caring, supportive post, all who can should post to them, carrying their words and praising them for being supportive. In this way, it is possible the abuser will learn to seek attention in positive ways, rather than using negative methods. I know this way is not easy. It is hard not to post angry words when our hearts cry out at injustice and our emotions are in turmoil with the caring for our friends. It is equally difficult to praise one that we still harbor anger for in regard to their abuse in the past. No……it is not easy…..but……it is a way, I think, to end this war and possibly to prevent others from getting this far. I would like to ask also, that those who are caring of me, not respond to things said about me. Do not defend me, for I need no defense. Do not stand as shield for me, for I have my own shields. Those who attempt to belittle me…….only make themselves smaller in the eyes of others……they cannot harm me. The words of those I do not value are as breath in the wind……rather, when words that are…..shall we say, "not complimentary", are said of me….. hold me in your heart and mind as I hold you always in mine…….Jae — "Freedom is the right to be wrong…. Not the right to do wrong……" —John G. Riefenbaker
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I don’t understand your point in posting that… and I guess, there goes your strong beliefs about posting private email… And you are wrong, unless *I* am "no one"… I was harmed by ric’s manipulations, and deceit… and I for one, am sick of having ric crammed down my throat, and constantly reminded of the backstabbing, and betrayal, I suffered at ric’s hands… someone I once trusted… but I will never be that foolish again… You have no idea of how wounded, and hurt I was, by his disloyalty, and betrayal… Michael In article <7mk4mm$9r…@nnrp1.deja.com>, obl…@my-deja.com wrote: >The following will not be of interest to everyone on this group, but for >those people who, like myself, remember with affection Ric’s inimitable >posting style, and retain admiration and respect for someone who, to the >best of my recollection, put a great deal of time and energy into this >group, helped many on it and harmed no-one, I enclose the following list >of addresses where Ric may be contacted by anyone who wishes to. It was >included as a "sig file" at the end of a recent letter on a ML to which >I am subscribed, replying to one of my ASL posts which somehow found its >way into his mailbox. I am not going to reproduce the message itself, as >I think that may attract accusations of manufacturing "support" for my >own posts… but I can’t resist quoting the following:
<snipped>
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P&M – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ——Original Message—– From: obl…@my-deja.com <obl…@my-deja.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.loneliness Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:04 AM Subject: Ric’s ICQ and Web addresses (Was: Has anybody heard from Ric today?) …. and harmed no-one This is NOT true, and you know it isn’t Frans
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Hey Gang! It seems like this place is getting back to the good-old-days of summer…. Just about all we need now is Ric to show up again, and maybe Chloe as well… Then we can all roll up our sleeves and wade in proper…. Oh, the Dog-Days of A.S.L….. What would our years be like without ‘em…….! MixMaster
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