Loneliness and the real world
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forte, What an insightful, practicle, sensitive letter. I hope Solomon reads it and takes it to heart. It rings true to me as I can relate. h@shi ><
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Excellent response. Glad you are with us. 
J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -fo…@mindspring.com wrote: > Dear Solomon, > I understand you so well. There is no easy way. Either you > stay angry or you give up your anger. You can stay angry and decide > that if you accept what life offered you, you would be affirming > injustice, and the only response is more anger, trying to change > others or change yourself. On the other hand, if you can find > acceptance of your hurtful past and acceptance of the injustice life > offers to some of us, then you can find peace, love, joy in what is > yours, and acceptance of those other people you say you cannot get > along with. The alternative is, as you have said, suicide. I have > thought about it too, quite a lot lately. I have recently realized I > have lost the last 12 years of my life to such an anger as yours. > Please believe me, acceptance IS the only real solution to the hurts > of the past and the solutions of the present. I too was not accepted > when I was younger and it has plagued my life. I have spend the last > 12 years trying to ‘make myself’ into something/someone I am not so > that I could be acceptable to myself. If you can’t give up the anger, > with the passage of time you will lose so much more than you feel you > have already lost. Other people, friends and professionals can help > with a path towards acceptance. I do not know why I think what I say > will help you, because if you had said this to me 12 years ago, I > would have blown you off. But please believe me–there is no other > solution. I feel for you–I feel with you. > peace, > forte > On 28 Mar 1998 04:41:57 GMT, The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS > <d…@netroplex.com> wrote: > >I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… > > When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating > >with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from > >other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic > >pursuits, away from any social contact. > > Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other > >people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career > >that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… > > Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job > >because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with > >coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job > >I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, > >there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not > >consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is > >mutual. > > It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least > >employment-wise. > > It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for > >almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for > >the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that > >there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when > >anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit > >if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place > >of employment. > > At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my > >funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I > >graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? > >Hating the world, > >Solomon Chang > >d…@netroplex.com > >http://home.netroplex.com/dark > >spam trap > >——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here—— > >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1
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On 30 Mar 1998 19:51:57 GMT, The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<d…@netroplex.com> wrote: >George R wrote: >> If I had to do it all over again, I would get a career in one of the >> sciences, or if I had to stay in business, either a very small company >> thay can’t afford the politics, or in entrepreneurship. Corporate >> business isn’t for smart people, but for people who are so dumb, that >> they have to be political to survive. And colleges should do >> psychological testing to see if students are o:k for a business >> career. Unfortunately, they are only interested in selling credits. > Unfortunately, I *did* go for a technically oriented profession. >However, like you said, technical skills are only a very small >percentage of job security. One of my coworkers(whom I’ll call X) >didn’t like me to the point of sabotaging my work, even on things I >never touched, but he was always close by whenever I made "mistakes". >For example, a manager would relay to me, "Solomon, the entire Arcadia >site is down, and X said he found a router and four hubs unplugged after >you left." Or, "X says you touched so-and-so’s computer and now all >important documents are going to /dev/null." You get the idea. > If someone really doesn’t like you, and you’re the new guy, things can >be tough. On the other hand, I probably bring it on myself sometimes. >Whenever I meet someone whom I find out was extremely popular in school, >I immediately develop an instant dislike for him/her. I try to hide it, >but I think people can sense it. >> Do yourself a favor, and get the career that fits your personality, >> rather than try to make it in a world based on politics and social >> skills. You’ll make out much better > Job, or Career? I’m beginning to wonder if there’s even an opening for >what I do that’s not in a corporate environment. If you mean change >*careers*, well, I’ll need to think for a bit here. > I also want to thank everyone on this NG for being so supportive thus >far. >– >Solomon Kevin Chang
Solomon — I always had difficulty with this kind of problem. If you directly complain to management, it appears that you don’t know how to handle the problem. Maybe the best thing to do is approach another worker — not the manager and not the trouble maker and let them know what is happening. Inevitably, the word will get back to the manager via a neutral party, and this will in effect let the manager know what is going on. Likewise tha manager with knowkledge of this will have to be careful of the trouble maker, because in a computer environment, the manager has to be responsible and on the lookout for sabotage. Negligence is no excuse. Let the grapevine work for you. Also, you might ask a third party to evaluate your work. Then if the troublemaker sabotages your work, you have another person to verify that it was done correctly. But I still think you might consider a career to fit your personality, rather than trying to change your personality. It is very difficult for a leopard to change its spots. There are too many troublemakers in the world. It will be an ongoing problem. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->d…@netroplex.com >http://home.netroplex.com/dark >spam trap >——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here——— >j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu >j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu >j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu >j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu
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I am touched by your message, but I don’t have the words to respond properly. Please, never give up hope, though. We can’t live without it. Hope and dreams. We need them. a hug for you, J The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Come to think of it, > Yes, I’m going for the 9-5 rut, seeing how I’ve bought into all the > bull that a garden variety campus career center tells you; seeing how > I’m and MIS and IT person, I’ve met a lot of people of never even needed > a degree to be secure in those fields as of late(I grabbed a music > degree myself). All they they needed was certification. Unfortunately, > the only openings that are readily apparent in those fields are > corporate environments. > Sorry it took me so long to get back this group and respond, but I was > abducted this weekend by family members who decided to give me a lesson > about what *real* despair was. We drove to various small towns and > observed the lingering sense of hopelessness that pervaded these > neighborhoods: it seems that the general sense of these places was that > the world was moving too fast: it was leaving them behind. The older > generations we observed simply tried to make do, and the stores and > restaurants we went to lacked the sense of hominess that one generally > sees in the movies. The younger people we observed exhibited a sense of > frustration: they wanted to leave, and even those who had the means to > do so were restrained by other obligations that kept them there. My > family forced me to start up conversatins with some of the residents, > and I soon learned that most of these people drive over a hundred miles > to get to work each day. No one I met made more than $10/hr. > I was told yesterday that I’m lucky to be able to voice my feelings, > that most people burdened by hopelessness can only express their > feelings through action, like those two boys in Arkansas who shot at > students and teachers alike after a fire alarm was pulled. > I’m told that I’m fortunate to make it as far as I have, since millions > of people in nonmetropolitan areas of this country yearn to even be in > the rat race to begin with. Not nice words, describing my condition or > theirs, but it’s something to think about. > I use to laugh at the story of Pandora, because I thought sticking Hope > at the bottom of the box was too… Fairytale-esque. I’m beginning to > see how important hope is, even false hope. > — > Solomon Chang > d…@netroplex.com > http://home.netroplex.com/dark > spam trap > ——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here——— > j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu > j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu > j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu > j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu
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George R wrote: > If I had to do it all over again, I would get a career in one of the > sciences, or if I had to stay in business, either a very small company > thay can’t afford the politics, or in entrepreneurship. Corporate > business isn’t for smart people, but for people who are so dumb, that > they have to be political to survive. And colleges should do > psychological testing to see if students are o:k for a business > career. Unfortunately, they are only interested in selling credits.
Unfortunately, I *did* go for a technically oriented profession. However, like you said, technical skills are only a very small percentage of job security. One of my coworkers(whom I’ll call X) didn’t like me to the point of sabotaging my work, even on things I never touched, but he was always close by whenever I made "mistakes". For example, a manager would relay to me, "Solomon, the entire Arcadia site is down, and X said he found a router and four hubs unplugged after you left." Or, "X says you touched so-and-so’s computer and now all important documents are going to /dev/null." You get the idea. If someone really doesn’t like you, and you’re the new guy, things can be tough. On the other hand, I probably bring it on myself sometimes. Whenever I meet someone whom I find out was extremely popular in school, I immediately develop an instant dislike for him/her. I try to hide it, but I think people can sense it. > Do yourself a favor, and get the career that fits your personality, > rather than try to make it in a world based on politics and social > skills. You’ll make out much better
Job, or Career? I’m beginning to wonder if there’s even an opening for what I do that’s not in a corporate environment. If you mean change *careers*, well, I’ll need to think for a bit here. I also want to thank everyone on this NG for being so supportive thus far. — Solomon Kevin Chang d…@netroplex.com http://home.netroplex.com/dark spam trap ——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here——— j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu
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Come to think of it, Yes, I’m going for the 9-5 rut, seeing how I’ve bought into all the bull that a garden variety campus career center tells you; seeing how I’m and MIS and IT person, I’ve met a lot of people of never even needed a degree to be secure in those fields as of late(I grabbed a music degree myself). All they they needed was certification. Unfortunately, the only openings that are readily apparent in those fields are corporate environments. Sorry it took me so long to get back this group and respond, but I was abducted this weekend by family members who decided to give me a lesson about what *real* despair was. We drove to various small towns and observed the lingering sense of hopelessness that pervaded these neighborhoods: it seems that the general sense of these places was that the world was moving too fast: it was leaving them behind. The older generations we observed simply tried to make do, and the stores and restaurants we went to lacked the sense of hominess that one generally sees in the movies. The younger people we observed exhibited a sense of frustration: they wanted to leave, and even those who had the means to do so were restrained by other obligations that kept them there. My family forced me to start up conversatins with some of the residents, and I soon learned that most of these people drive over a hundred miles to get to work each day. No one I met made more than $10/hr. I was told yesterday that I’m lucky to be able to voice my feelings, that most people burdened by hopelessness can only express their feelings through action, like those two boys in Arkansas who shot at students and teachers alike after a fire alarm was pulled. I’m told that I’m fortunate to make it as far as I have, since millions of people in nonmetropolitan areas of this country yearn to even be in the rat race to begin with. Not nice words, describing my condition or theirs, but it’s something to think about. I use to laugh at the story of Pandora, because I thought sticking Hope at the bottom of the box was too… Fairytale-esque. I’m beginning to see how important hope is, even false hope. — Solomon Chang d…@netroplex.com http://home.netroplex.com/dark spam trap ——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here——— j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu j…@calvin.pitzer.edu
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The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS <d…@netroplex.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… > When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating >with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from >other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic >pursuits, away from any social contact. > Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other >people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career >that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… > Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job >because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with >coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job >I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, >there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not >consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is >mutual. > It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least >employment-wise. > It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for >almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for >the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that >there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when >anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit >if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place >of employment. > At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my >funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I >graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? >Hating the world, >Solomon Chang >d…@netroplex.com >http://home.netroplex.com/dark >spam trap >——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here—— >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1
I had your problem. I was always a loner (besides a lurker). But I was intelligent. I even graduated from graduate school with a 3.8 index in statistics and quantatative analysis. But as it turned out, technical skills are worth about 1 per cent of the effort in business. On my very first job, in 1959, on the very first day. my supervisor noticed that I went to lunch by myself. He told me that if I was going to be sucessful, I should start imptoving my social skills. For the next 39 years, nothing improved. I truly believe that, it was a total mismatch, to take a job in rthe business arena, where social skills and political savy are just about everything. If you don’t have those skills, business just uses you, and someone else gets the credit, the raise, the promotion. If I had to do it all over again, I would get a career in one of the sciences, or if I had to stay in business, either a very small company thay can’t afford the politics, or in entrepreneurship. Corporate business isn’t for smart people, but for people who are so dumb, that they have to be political to survive. And colleges should do psychological testing to see if students are o:k for a business career. Unfortunately, they are only interested in selling credits. Do yourself a favor, and get the career that fits your personality, rather than try to make it in a world based on politics and social skills. You’ll make out much better
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<351CA33F.78409…@pop3.concentric.net>… >Excellent response. Glad you are with us. J >fo…@mindspring.com wrote: >> Dear Solomon, >> I understand you so well. There is no easy way. Either you >> stay angry or you give up your anger. <snip> >> peace, >> forte
I have had problems most of my life belonging in a group, but for some reason I always felt that the kids who were teasing me were just going thru a phase. I guess I am more people-oriented; what bothered me was not the teasing itself but that I genuinely liked the kids who were doing it. So I do not know a solution that would work, but I do feel for you (Solomon). And forte’s advice seems good. It’s not that I don’t get angry, by the way, but I take everything out on myself. Sometimes I still hate myself very much, but I knew for sure I had forgiven my classmates when I saw most of them at my 10-yr. reunion last May. It felt really good. May you feel that at some point too. Kira
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Been reading your responses, Kira. I’m enjoying you. Thank you for the smiles. J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kira wrote: > Lad…@pop3.concentric.net wrote in message > <351CA33F.78409…@pop3.concentric.net>… > >Excellent response. Glad you are with us. J > >fo…@mindspring.com wrote: > >> Dear Solomon, > >> I understand you so well. There is no easy way. Either you > >> stay angry or you give up your anger. > <snip> > >> peace, > >> forte > I have had problems most of my life belonging in a group, but for some > reason I always felt that the kids who were teasing me were just going thru > a phase. I guess I am more people-oriented; what bothered me was not the > teasing itself but that I genuinely liked the kids who were doing it. So I > do not know a solution that would work, but I do feel for you (Solomon). > And forte’s advice seems good. It’s not that I don’t get angry, by the way, > but I take everything out on myself. Sometimes I still hate myself very > much, but I knew for sure I had forgiven my classmates when I saw most of > them at my 10-yr. reunion last May. It felt really good. May you feel that > at some point too. > Kira
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… > When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating >with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from >other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic >pursuits, away from any social contact. > Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other >people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career >that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… > Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job >because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with >coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job >I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, >there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not >consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is >mutual. > It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least >employment-wise. > It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for >almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for >the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that >there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when >anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit >if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place >of employment. > At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my >funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I >graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? >Hating the world, >Solomon Chang
Dear Solomon I can understand where you are coming from. I too didnt fit in and ,whenI was in junior high, I came very close to killing myself. Instead of suicide, I did kind of like you and said "screw everybody" and just did my own thing. In high school and college it sounds like you felt like you were doing OK on your own without having to conform to anyone elses expectations so I dont see why you feel you have to give up now. Believe me, I know it’s rough but I imagine it wasn’t too easy for you back then. I’m thinking the problem lies not in you, but maybe in the way that you are going about the whole job search thing. I dont know the specifics but I’m wondering if you are looking for a regular, steady 9-5 job. If that is the case, you may be looking in the wrong place. I dont know what your skills are but I get the idea you are very talented. Why not try freelancing? That way you are your own boss. Or maybe you could check with a temp agency. That way you could do a series of differant jobs without having to worry that much about making a lasting impression. One you do your job (which it seems you are very capable of doing) you are out of there! If you ask for a series of temporary jobs you get the best of both worlds. You dont have to hang around with a bunch of morons you dont care for and ,with a placement agency ,you will be able to find somewhat steady work. They’ll do most of the searching for you so you dont have to worry about "having the fucking people-skills to sell yourself." And please dont even think about suicide. Just because you feel you dont fit in the corporate world that doesnt mean there’s anything wrong with you. Actually when you look at all the ass kissing , political bullshit and backstabbing that goes on, why would you want to fit in? I’m not saying it’s not difficult. It’s always harder to be your own person than just follow along with the rest of the sheep. I imagine you’ve had a pretty rough time thus far but you’ve found ways to compensate and overcome your difficulties. Sure the rules have changed a little now but it’s still pretty much the same ballgame. I honestly cant see suicide as an answer for you. You strike me as a survivor. You just need take some time out a figure out how to handle the new situation and still be true to yourself. You did it before. You can do it again. m.j.
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Dear Solomon, I understand you so well. There is no easy way. Either you stay angry or you give up your anger. You can stay angry and decide that if you accept what life offered you, you would be affirming injustice, and the only response is more anger, trying to change others or change yourself. On the other hand, if you can find acceptance of your hurtful past and acceptance of the injustice life offers to some of us, then you can find peace, love, joy in what is yours, and acceptance of those other people you say you cannot get along with. The alternative is, as you have said, suicide. I have thought about it too, quite a lot lately. I have recently realized I have lost the last 12 years of my life to such an anger as yours. Please believe me, acceptance IS the only real solution to the hurts of the past and the solutions of the present. I too was not accepted when I was younger and it has plagued my life. I have spend the last 12 years trying to ‘make myself’ into something/someone I am not so that I could be acceptable to myself. If you can’t give up the anger, with the passage of time you will lose so much more than you feel you have already lost. Other people, friends and professionals can help with a path towards acceptance. I do not know why I think what I say will help you, because if you had said this to me 12 years ago, I would have blown you off. But please believe me–there is no other solution. I feel for you–I feel with you. peace, forte On 28 Mar 1998 04:41:57 GMT, The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<d…@netroplex.com> wrote: >I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… > When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating >with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from >other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic >pursuits, away from any social contact. > Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other >people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career >that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… > Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job >because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with >coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job >I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, >there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not >consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is >mutual. > It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least >employment-wise. > It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for >almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for >the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that >there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when >anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit >if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place >of employment. > At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my >funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I >graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? >Hating the world, >Solomon Chang >d…@netroplex.com >http://home.netroplex.com/dark >spam trap >——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here—— >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 >postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1
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I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic pursuits, away from any social contact. Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is mutual. It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least employment-wise. It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place of employment. At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? Hating the world, Solomon Chang d…@netroplex.com http://home.netroplex.com/dark spam trap ——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here—— postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1
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Fella, and I am assuming you are by the tone of your letter, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Number one. LOCK UP THE GUN. I do not believe you are stupid. You have successfully identified your problem. "No people skills". You have identified why the problem exists. "You did not consider them important enough to develop until it became necessary." People skills can be developed. You can buy books and learn all by your little lonesome and practice on us here. Now get to it and get started. Granted, it’s goin’ to be a bit harder than blowing your brains out, but it does mean you now have a new decision to make. Which book store are you going to? I most certainly do expect to hear back from you informing me of the title of the book you purchased. If short on funds, use the library. I can not believe someone with your intelligence would throw everything he worked so hard to learn away without at least attempting to fix the problem. There are a whole lot of people here for you to learn to interract with. No more nonsense!!! J> The Fallen Angel of NT and VMS wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know if anyone else out there has this problem but… > When I was young, I spent a lot of time with myself, hardly associating > with the outside world. Because I had been picked on quite a bit from > other kids, I moved towards a good deal of technical and artistic > pursuits, away from any social contact. > Even in college, I never quite fit in, still shunned by most other > people. I never figured it would matter, since I would find a career > that would let me leave all my old bitterness behind… > Okay, so here’s my problem: now I’m finding I can’t hold down a job > because I "…have a chip on my shoulder," or I can’t "…get along with > coworkers." I have all the technical skills necessary for whatever job > I apply for, but in a growing world of disposable chattel for workers, > there’s always that bitter quality that people ultimately detect; if not > consciously, people seem to feel uneasy around me, and the feeling is > mutual. > It strange to think that I *need* to be lonely, at least > employment-wise. > It’s really beginning to depress me that I’ve been out of college for > almost a year and I can never last at a job for more than five weeks for > the previously mentioned reasons. I’m beginning to feel frustrated that > there may not be a place for me in this world. It pisses me off when > anyone tells me I’m talented or accomplished, but all that is just shit > if you don’t have the fucking people-skills to sell yourself to a place > of employment. > At this point, I’m trying to decide what to do with the last of my > funds… Do I go buy a gun and blow out my brains at the college I > graduated from? Or do I blow out my brains at the high school I left? > Hating the world, > Solomon Chang > d…@netroplex.com > http://home.netroplex.com/dark > spam trap > ——cut here——cut here——cut here——cut here—— > postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 > postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1 postmas…@127.0.0.1
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