Lonely Loneliness

Loneliness in California

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Hey No problem bud, I am glad you found some comfort at this place and I’m sure that you will progress in you future adventures in life. Just know that this place is a place to come and talk, listen and learn. There are so many good and caring hearts here that I could not name them all and you are one of them. I know…. I’ve known for a long time. I wish I could think more like you. I haven’t given up on women I just don’t think I have what it takes to make one happy anymore. But you know me the glass is half empty….. Peace Cobra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KeithS1215 wrote: >Thank you Texcobra. I have found many friends and hope to progress in my >personal adventures. >(;-)

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Jae!!!!     Oh stop it. Lets not go there again. Let’s let that sleeping dog sleep. Boy, one slip and your whole reputation takes that round and round swirl down the toilet. <laugh> Hugs Cobra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jae wrote: >He’s a good >friend……even if he does discuss a woman’s hair color on the net!

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You certainly do have a set of problems, Keith.  As well as a certain "mind set" that will tend to make things even more difficult for you.      I’ve been round and round this issue of men needing to feel they are the "provider".  <smile>  I’ve given up.  It’s something some of you feel strongly and no amount of "talking" is likely to convince you otherwise, in my experience.      I have experienced the problem with Children in a relationship from both ends and do understand your feelings there.  The age group that you most likely are looking at right now to date, most likely have Children in their early teens or pre teens and that is a difficult time for parenting in any case.  Add an "outsider" wishing to be an "insider" and it gets extremely "testy".     The "unconditional love" business happens to be something I’m not sure even exists, so you’re on your own there.  <laugh>     I hope you’ll hang out with us for awhile.  We share and learn from each other and it is mostly good.  <smile>     I’m envious!!! Now, I know who you are!!  Cobra speaks quite highly of you and I know that you’ve known him so much longer than I have.  He’s a good friend……even if he does discuss a woman’s hair color on the net!  <grin>  Jae – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KeithS1215 wrote: > I may given the wrong impression of "All the good ones are taken" It seems that > all my dates are not the material I wish to pursue to a long term relationship. > I never find out till the emotions are real involved and find whether I > termnate the relationship or it is terminated on me I have great pain. > I guess I am too sensitive or just don’t want to be hurting anyone. I found > that I am often boxed into very selective catigory of who I can date. > My relationship resume is quite impressive. A lot of long term relationships of > three to nine years. I must be doing something right, just not enough. > "I like chopped liver, by the way." > At least you know what you are getting right up front! > "I have found out about children that are not my own concerning relationship > involvements. If the Exe is real man he will take charge of his children, but > if he has been seperated from his children and pays no regard for their health > well being or if I disagree on displinary action this usually is a great cause > for stress in the relationship. For example: The child of my  relationship go > absolutely wild and out of control I found that to be harming to the > relationship. I originally meet her when her child was living with her > grandmother. We were already very much in love, then the introduction of the > child proved to pretty harsh. I found out that the parenting skills were > lacking <In my opinion> I felt something should be done. I could see the sigh > of pending disaster. I talked to the child but to no evail. Eventually I lost > respect for her and her mother. When the introduction of the father was present > he was no help what so ever. I have no legal rights to inforse any kind of > action to pervent the distruction that was surely to come. > I don’t mind a woman with children, I will tell you this, the parenting skills > of any future marriage prospects will be highly scrutinized prior to > commitment. > AS far as too many exes go I meant that I no longer have the means I feel > nessaryto provide my future marriage prospects with the life style that they > are accustomed. > I am proud to pay my child support and will never stop. Never wanted to leave > the children with her from the <Ex> beginning. My Ex can be quite a problem in > my personal life. If she doesn’t approve of who I am seeing all she has to do > is report to child services that my new marriage interviewee has been un-safe > or is a threat to my children . Therefore revoking my visitation or worst > increasing the amount of child support just to rip me into submission. Boy, I > really hate that. One false move and pow! S@#$ hits the fan and guess what I > get screwed again! > —— In other words My Ex is a problem! —— > Yes, I need a second income to survive in California. My children are here and > I will never leave them. They mean the world to me. When I feel down I always > have my beatiful children to cheer me up. And that they do! As far as money > goes I have not enough to give to the relationship as I want. Call it male > pride or whatever, I can it being able to provide. > After they <my Dates> find out exactly what I have for baggage they kind of > figure out that security is not going to be part of the relationship <Finicial > security> They like going places and dancing but when I see her friends having > fun I wish I could give her the same. I feel not worthy of such a relationship. > <again my opinion> > What am I wishing for? > Happiness in a marriage scenerio, with someone forever! > <if is not impossible already to find> > I haven’t given up on women, I just can’t seem to find a woman who  needs to be > loved <unconditional love> Which I feel necessary to having that special magic > I still believe is out there! > Much thanks and to you Lady JAe, I have heard so much about from Texcobra! > If any of the above comments seem harsh or in anyway rough I have not ment it > that way. > My question to you is: > What else must a carring, sensitive and compassionate man do to find the "One > true love" of his life?

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Thank you Texcobra. I have found many friends and hope to progress in my personal adventures. (;-)

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I may given the wrong impression of "All the good ones are taken" It seems that all my dates are not the material I wish to pursue to a long term relationship. I never find out till the emotions are real involved and find whether I termnate the relationship or it is terminated on me I have great pain. I guess I am too sensitive or just don’t want to be hurting anyone. I found that I am often boxed into very selective catigory of who I can date. My relationship resume is quite impressive. A lot of long term relationships of three to nine years. I must be doing something right, just not enough. "I like chopped liver, by the way." At least you know what you are getting right up front! "I have found out about children that are not my own concerning relationship involvements. If the Exe is real man he will take charge of his children, but if he has been seperated from his children and pays no regard for their health well being or if I disagree on displinary action this usually is a great cause for stress in the relationship. For example: The child of my  relationship go absolutely wild and out of control I found that to be harming to the relationship. I originally meet her when her child was living with her grandmother. We were already very much in love, then the introduction of the child proved to pretty harsh. I found out that the parenting skills were lacking <In my opinion> I felt something should be done. I could see the sigh of pending disaster. I talked to the child but to no evail. Eventually I lost respect for her and her mother. When the introduction of the father was present he was no help what so ever. I have no legal rights to inforse any kind of action to pervent the distruction that was surely to come. I don’t mind a woman with children, I will tell you this, the parenting skills of any future marriage prospects will be highly scrutinized prior to commitment. AS far as too many exes go I meant that I no longer have the means I feel nessaryto provide my future marriage prospects with the life style that they are accustomed. I am proud to pay my child support and will never stop. Never wanted to leave the children with her from the <Ex> beginning. My Ex can be quite a problem in my personal life. If she doesn’t approve of who I am seeing all she has to do is report to child services that my new marriage interviewee has been un-safe or is a threat to my children . Therefore revoking my visitation or worst increasing the amount of child support just to rip me into submission. Boy, I really hate that. One false move and pow! S@#$ hits the fan and guess what I get screwed again! —— In other words My Ex is a problem! —— Yes, I need a second income to survive in California. My children are here and I will never leave them. They mean the world to me. When I feel down I always have my beatiful children to cheer me up. And that they do! As far as money goes I have not enough to give to the relationship as I want. Call it male pride or whatever, I can it being able to provide. After they <my Dates> find out exactly what I have for baggage they kind of figure out that security is not going to be part of the relationship <Finicial security> They like going places and dancing but when I see her friends having fun I wish I could give her the same. I feel not worthy of such a relationship. <again my opinion> What am I wishing for? Happiness in a marriage scenerio, with someone forever! <if is not impossible already to find> I haven’t given up on women, I just can’t seem to find a woman who  needs to be loved <unconditional love> Which I feel necessary to having that special magic I still believe is out there! Much thanks and to you Lady JAe, I have heard so much about from Texcobra! If any of the above comments seem harsh or in anyway rough I have not ment it that way. My question to you is: What else must a carring, sensitive and compassionate man do to find the "One true love" of his life?

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Dukedane wrote: > Hello, > I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from many > posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. > I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back from > this group that might give an advantage. > First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken.

    Well now…..there happen to be a lot of unattached women in this group alone and I think they’re pretty "good" people.  I sure hope you didn’t just make them all feel like chopped liver.  <grin> > At 39 soon to > be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and > a lot of Child Support. > Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some > children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children.

    Does this mean that not only do you not wish any more Children of your own, but you also do not wish a woman to bring her own Children into the relationship? > When the > prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have > someone without an ex-wife and children.

    With all of the "exes" hanging around nowdays, it doesn’t seem to me that too many women worry too much about the man in their life having an ex and Children. Is there something you might not be telling us?  Like is your ex wife a "problem" personality?  Does your high Child support prevent you from being able to contribute to the overall expenses of a relationship…….in other words, are you needing a woman that is willing to do the major financial supporting of a "household"? > Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical > relationship.

    Are you saying that all the women you date only wish to meet you for sex?  They don’t enjoy talking with you, dancing with you, going places with you, etc.? > I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life > but quite enjoyable. > My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!"

    Well, I’m not familiar with how many cowgirls are in California, but we don’t have a shortage of them here in Texas.  <smile>  But, if you’re looking for a "simple life" like you used to have, farming and ranching have never been simple and now there’s a whole lot of technology involved in them……meaning the cowgirls aren’t "simple", either.  <grin>    I think I’d have to know some more about what you’re wishing for, before I could offer any real advice, Dukedane. <smile>  Jae – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dukedane > Somewhere in California > Still looking for Miss Goodbar > Do it today, tomorrow never comes!

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Posted and Mailed I just read my response to you and thought it sounded a mite too "flippant".  I’m usually more careful in teasing with new people ’cause some people don’t wish to be teased about some things.  Part of my response was serious because I truly do feel that we all might be able to help you better if we have more information, but some of it was teasing and I truly don’t wish you to be offended by it.  I hope if I crossed any lines with you, you’ll accept my apology for doing so.  Jae – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dukedane wrote: > Hello, > I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from many > posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. > I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back from > this group that might give an advantage. > First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon to > be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and > a lot of Child Support. > Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some > children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the > prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have > someone without an ex-wife and children. > Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical > relationship. > I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life > but quite enjoyable. > My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!" > Dukedane > Somewhere in California > Still looking for Miss Goodbar > Do it today, tomorrow never comes!

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Hello Keith, I certainly don’t have a lot of answers. I am divorced and I have three children. Building a new relationship, after beeing divorced, is very difficult, especially when you have children, that are a real part in your live. Although you are divorced, your ex will always be a significant part of your live. It is extermely difficult for a new partner to accept that fact. When your new partner has children too, things get even more complicated. You can’t just fall in love and see what will happen……You simply can not built a relationship, like you did when you were younger….you have to be more carefull and more sensible. I know this is hard, we all want to experience a romantic love, that lasts forever. The only advice I can offer you is, find friends, before you look for lovers. They last much longer and can ad a wonderfull feelig of trust and comfort in your live. Take one day at the time and let tommorrow take care of it’s own sorrow….. Hugs Lin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KeithS1215 wrote: > I may given the wrong impression of "All the good ones are taken" It seems that > all my dates are not the material I wish to pursue to a long term relationship. > I never find out till the emotions are real involved and find whether I > termnate the relationship or it is terminated on me I have great pain. > I guess I am too sensitive or just don’t want to be hurting anyone. I found > that I am often boxed into very selective catigory of who I can date. > My relationship resume is quite impressive. A lot of long term relationships of > three to nine years. I must be doing something right, just not enough. > "I like chopped liver, by the way." > At least you know what you are getting right up front! > "I have found out about children that are not my own concerning relationship > involvements. If the Exe is real man he will take charge of his children, but > if he has been seperated from his children and pays no regard for their health > well being or if I disagree on displinary action this usually is a great cause > for stress in the relationship. For example: The child of my  relationship go > absolutely wild and out of control I found that to be harming to the > relationship. I originally meet her when her child was living with her > grandmother. We were already very much in love, then the introduction of the > child proved to pretty harsh. I found out that the parenting skills were > lacking <In my opinion> I felt something should be done. I could see the sigh > of pending disaster. I talked to the child but to no evail. Eventually I lost > respect for her and her mother. When the introduction of the father was present > he was no help what so ever. I have no legal rights to inforse any kind of > action to pervent the distruction that was surely to come. > I don’t mind a woman with children, I will tell you this, the parenting skills > of any future marriage prospects will be highly scrutinized prior to > commitment. > AS far as too many exes go I meant that I no longer have the means I feel > nessaryto provide my future marriage prospects with the life style that they > are accustomed. > I am proud to pay my child support and will never stop. Never wanted to leave > the children with her from the <Ex> beginning. My Ex can be quite a problem in > my personal life. If she doesn’t approve of who I am seeing all she has to do > is report to child services that my new marriage interviewee has been un-safe > or is a threat to my children . Therefore revoking my visitation or worst > increasing the amount of child support just to rip me into submission. Boy, I > really hate that. One false move and pow! S@#$ hits the fan and guess what I > get screwed again! > —— In other words My Ex is a problem! —— > Yes, I need a second income to survive in California. My children are here and > I will never leave them. They mean the world to me. When I feel down I always > have my beatiful children to cheer me up. And that they do! As far as money > goes I have not enough to give to the relationship as I want. Call it male > pride or whatever, I can it being able to provide. > After they <my Dates> find out exactly what I have for baggage they kind of > figure out that security is not going to be part of the relationship <Finicial > security> They like going places and dancing but when I see her friends having > fun I wish I could give her the same. I feel not worthy of such a relationship. > <again my opinion> > What am I wishing for? > Happiness in a marriage scenerio, with someone forever! > <if is not impossible already to find> > I haven’t given up on women, I just can’t seem to find a woman who  needs to be > loved <unconditional love> Which I feel necessary to having that special magic > I still believe is out there! > Much thanks and to you Lady JAe, I have heard so much about from Texcobra! > If any of the above comments seem harsh or in anyway rough I have not ment it > that way. > My question to you is: > What else must a carring, sensitive and compassionate man do to find the "One > true love" of his life?

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Hi Dukedane, Just wanted to give you a warm welcome to the group =o) W E L C O M E – Regards, Jenn [Hugs] members.aol.com/jeneve23/enter.html *+ *+ *+ *+ *+ *+ * "I wish they would only take me as I am." -Vincent Van Gogh

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Welcome to ASL Dukedane and as I’m sure you’ve been told there are many caring and supportive people here more than willing to lend a hand.  Please feel free to post or even email someone if that fits your fancy and I’m sure you’ll find many understanding individuals (those that may even be in the same boat as you). Cowgirls are all over and tomorrow does come, it may be today all over again but it will come – just never stops.  I’m a firm believer that the "right" partner, if you will, is out there for all of us.  Some of us have found that lifemate (or he/she found us) already.  Others have to toil for what seems like an eternity to find that special person.  I’ll admit I was extremely lucky in that area.  I understand your predicament but just have some personal feelings I wish to pass on.  Many of us (and I boldly say most of us), and I know of one in particular, wish to have a child (doesn’t matter what your sex is) and I believe it’s human nature.  I understand you have children and feel you accomplished that particular "human" goal but are you in fact giving up the right gal accidentally by not fulfilling what may be her personal goal of having a child.  I’m not saying jump on the bandwagon and start fathering all sorts of kids but I really do believe you may be closing a door (and we all close doors when it comes to relationships).  Don’t deceive, I believe, but find out if she may or may not be Mrs. Right for you before you close that door.  Let her know your feelings but try to understand hers.  Maybe down the road (I would’nt wait until I was 60) you just might have another child bore out of love and be the proudest man walking.  I suppose I sound confusing here but just suggesting you might be closing a door that might be better left cracked open in your search to not be alone.  I know that kids are a tremendous responsibility, wife and I have three – 2 gone and the third soon to be 16, and just by babysitting the grandkids on occasion reminds me of that responsibility.  Let them know your desires but again I still wouldn’t close that door as you might give up what could be the best thing ever to happen to you.  Sorry I’m not of much help but it was just a thought.  Again welcome – and relax, OK? Hugs Eddie (Chief) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dukedane wrote: > Hello, > I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from many > posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. > I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back from > this group that might give an advantage. > First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon to > be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and > a lot of Child Support. > Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some > children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the > prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have > someone without an ex-wife and children. > Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical > relationship. > I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life > but quite enjoyable. > My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!" > Dukedane > Somewhere in California > Still looking for Miss Goodbar > Do it today, tomorrow never comes!

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Hi Dukedane, Well, Jae pretty much asked everything I was going too, but I just want to add my two cents in with it.  So here goes: >First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon to >be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and >a lot of Child Support.

Ok, this could just be me, but that word "Unfortunately" sort of hit me the wrong way.  Yes it is unfortuanate that you have an ex-wife, it is unfortunate for me that i have an ex-husband, see, he likes to disappear for months at a time, then *Surprise!!*  he is back.  It really tears at my son, but anyway, different story here.  I hope that you didn’t mean unfortunately you have children,  I am going to hope that you didn’t, but perhaps if you did mean that, maybe this is a reason that women don’t get involved, they see how you are with the kids, or not with the kids??  I know t hat my ex hasn’t had a date in quite sometime and when he does, it is some redneck bitch who really should have been a man, because no self-respecting woman would date him…they might would, but once they realized he abandoned his son…this time for a year…they wouldn’t want to be with him.  I know I would n’t want to be with a man that did that.  I mean, who’s to say he won’t abandon me or if we happen to have a child together, what would stop him from doing that to my child also.  I don’t know the children situation with you, but perhaps you should take a look at that before you get involved with a woman. Women look at these things, my father has always told me to always watch how a man treats his mother and his children, if either are bad or not up to my standards, then to get out of the relationship, because that is very likely how he is going to treat me.  I think many women follow this advice. >Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some >children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the >prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have >someone without an ex-wife and children.

Ok, like Jae said..you don’t want anymore children of your own, or you don’t want anymore children or step-children??  I have to say that I can sympathize with this to an extent.  I once dated a man that had three kids, and I just wasn’t ready for that responsibility added on to my one.  So, I can understand the woman’s perspective on that, but at the same time, I am now dating a man who has no children.  I have one, and to be honest, am perfectly happy with my one.  He, on the other hand, wants children.  At least one of his own blood to complete our family, and I can’t really blame him for that, but I just dont want anymore. However, we have agreed to sit on this for a couple of years, I am still young…so we have plenty of time.  I have told him that having another child is something that I am open to considering with him, however, not now.  So, see, compromise might be the key word here. >Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical >relationship. >I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life >but quite enjoyable. >My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!"

All of the cowgirls are out working to earn a living for their families, that is where the cowgirls are. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Dukedane >Somewhere in California >Still looking for Miss Goodbar >Do it today, tomorrow never comes!

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Hello Dukedane….. Welcome to one of the special corners of the world. First of all == I thought all the "exs" were suppose to live in Texas.  In Canadian, I have NO idea where they ship us to. In other words, I am an ex.  No children with me, however, an exs nonetheless.  Looking for a better life than you had in the last relationship is a stressful experience, and I think that sometimes we spend alot of time looking for "goodbar" with the ghosts of the past influencing our decisions as to who might be "right" and who might not be.  I was told that all the "wrong" types would find their way to me because I hadnt made up in my mind to put the ghosts behind and search for what would truly make me happy.  Was I just looking to "find" all the wrong guys?  Or was I searching for something that I hadnt yet figured out. My conclusion would probably have to be that I had no idea what to do after we spilt.  I went and did everything that was considered "singles" activities — and only became one of the "singles".  I didnt want to be single.  I had had a secure life before, and this was like riding a roller coaster in the dark.  Did alot of emotionally ignorate things too, which only added to the stress level. Between job and the "singles" life, I was a wreck.  I spent very little time doing things for myself, like taking the time to walk in the park, see the sites, explore,… and this is what I would do if I had to do it again.  I ended up doing it only out of desperation one day, when I thought I was at the end of my rope.  I kick myself now for not doing it sooner.  It provided me with a "peace" that was a noticable change, both through my eyes and through others.  I found in the circle of people I had begun to associate with, that the opposite sex took more interest in getting to "know" me. Conversation, talk,…. whereas it was just a meat market before that. In my opinion, a woman who is mature enough, and has an interest in a life with a man,… the children can be a wonderful addition to her life.  I think however, it has to be viewed as a "special" packaging.  They are part of you Dukedane, and if someone is to have a relationship with you, the "special" comes with it.  Dont be any less than who you are, just because you think it will make it easier.  I dont believe your intention would be to find someone who really didnt care for you for who you were. It would just make things even more stressful for you. I guess I should add at this point that if you have a problem with taking on someone else’s "special" packaging, then you do limit yourself, although I am sure that you understand this.  But why are you worried about the added features, when you really need to concentrate on the the basics first?  If the woman has her own "specials" — is she any less worthy than you?  I dont think so,…. I tend to think that the understanding that you need both in your life and in a relationship might be provided better by someone who has been in the same situation,… so to speak. Regarding the child support thing.  The two sided coin it is indeed. You are providing for the past, but it basically blows your present and present-future into a limited option.  I think that you have to "learn" to be comfortable with who you are and what you can do now.  If someone has a problem with your "financial" status,… then what are they really looking for in the first place?  A sugar daddy or someone who can work together with them,…… Just a bunch of thoughts Dukedane.  I hope I made a little sense.  I hope that you will stay and join us here for a while, and when you feel the need, or the want to, there are people here who will listen to you.  Do we have the answers you are looking for?  To be honest, I have no idea.  But gosh, we do try and help the best we can working through our own reasons for being here. If you should need someone to talk to, any old time, my mailbox is open to you.  My wish for you is that you find what you are looking for Dukedane, and that in your learning you can help teach others. Thanks for taking the time to read this.  My best wishes to you. — ************ Barbara Tirracamba "live and let live" ************ Dukedane wrote in message <19990609235150.24127.00002…@ng-cs1.aol.com>…

:Hello, : :I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from many :posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. : :I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back from :this group that might give an advantage. : :First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon to :be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and :a lot of Child Support. : :Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some :children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the :prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have :someone without an ex-wife and children. : :Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical :relationship. : :I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life :but quite enjoyable. : :My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!" ukedane :Somewhere in California :Still looking for Miss Goodbar o it today, tomorrow never comes! :

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Hello, I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from many posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back from this group that might give an advantage. First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon to be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife and a lot of Child Support. Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have some children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather have someone without an ex-wife and children. Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical relationship. I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple life but quite enjoyable. My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!" Dukedane Somewhere in California Still looking for Miss Goodbar Do it today, tomorrow never comes!

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Hey Duke,     Good to see ya. This is a place of comfort. Many good hearts are here. I found that I could let my hair down here and listen, learn and sometime offer advise. Your problem is not uncommon. I’m sure that you will find that people here are warm and caring. Peace Cobra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dukedane wrote: >Hello, >I have been looking into this group for awhile. I have read messages from >many >posters and can feel a lot of truth in what is said here. >I thought I would relate my situation and see if I can get some feed back >from >this group that might give an advantage. >First I feel that all the good women are already have been taken. At 39 soon >to >be 40. I am ready to commit. Unfortunately I have three children an Ex-wife >and >a lot of Child Support. >Most of the women I date either have children of there own or want to have >some >children themselves. Unfortunately I don’t want anymore children. When the >prospective female/women finds out of the baggage I have they would rather >have >someone without an ex-wife and children. >Even though I date several different people, they only want a physical >relationship. >I am from Washington. Well I grew up there I was raised on a farm. Simple >life >but quite enjoyable. >My question to the group is "Where have all the Cowgirls gone!" >Dukedane

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