Mad as hell!!!!
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> Nevertheless, I decided to look for help at a psychiatric center (or > whatever it’s called). I’m sick and tired of these psychiatric types: > they over-analyze just about everything you say and all you meet are > cold, emotionless people. I’m sure many of you who have seeked similar > help have met these types as well.
Psychiatrists are idiots. 90% of them are pretty much full of shit, from my expirence. > Anyway, last time I was there (which really didn’t help me at all as all > the time was used for me to reply a lot of questions he had about my > past etc.) I had to wait forever until I finally talked to someone in > the reception and they called up the guy.
Heh. At least you got a person to ask you things that MIGHT have some bearing. The last idiot I went to used the Youngian method… basically, they just listen to you and quote what you say back to you in the ‘hope’ you can see and answer your own questions/problems. So, I started doing it back to him. Hilarity ensued. Along with the job as a meterologist, this has to be the only one where it is excusable to be WRONG more than 80% of the time and still have employment. Maybe I ought to have been one myself. I can BS pretty good and quote crap to people when the situation allows… Hmm… The possibilities… -E
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"L-1011" <L-1011@_DELETEbigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:1fdmjix.132w4dzorpp7yN%L-1011@_DELETEbigfoot.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m really angry today. > In order to get out of my loneliness I’m giving everything I can think > of a go, even if it scares the hell out of me. > This includes seeking some sort of "professional" help even though many > of those so-called "professionals" haven’t helped at all -actually just > given me additional problems. > Nevertheless, I decided to look for help at a psychiatric center (or > whatever it’s called). I’m sick and tired of these psychiatric types: > they over-analyze just about everything you say and all you meet are > cold, emotionless people. I’m sure many of you who have seeked similar > help have met these types as well. > Anyway, last time I was there (which really didn’t help me at all as all > the time was used for me to reply a lot of questions he had about my > past etc.) I had to wait forever until I finally talked to someone in > the reception and they called up the guy. > This time the exact same thing happened, but I decided to see what > happened if I *didn’t* alert them about the appointment (and yes, I had > an appointment last time as well), so I waited and waited. > Actually I waited for 45 minutes until I decided I had had enough. I was > really pissed and talked to the receptionist who called him up. > When he showed up I was hoping and expecting an apology at least, > but…. nothing! He just looked at me like *I* was stupid or something > for not having showed up, but who the hell had told me I should seek out > his office when a sign downstairs in the same building saying that > everybody should go to where the reception is and wait there? > He responded with something only a shrink can do: "I can see how you > feel that way". > Fuck the asshole!!! Many of these people can’t even *act* humanely, > they’re thinking psychology all the time, analyzing and twisting every > word you say. > Actually, last time, I even asked if I should alert them that I had > arrived, but was told that I should just wait in the waiting room as > long as I had an appointment. Rules seem to change all the time. > And the fucking bastard couldn’t even be bothered to call the reception > or walk one floor down to check if I had arrived. > I guess he just thought it was great to have an hour off. > This, in my opinion, tells me a whole lot more about him than me. That > he’s not really interested in helping me or cares at all. > He said he didn’t have time to talk with me today, so we made a new > appointment. First he said that he didn’t have anything free until next > week. I responded by angrily saying something like "yes, I see…..", > then he said something like "maybe I have something available on > Thursday", which he had. > Furthermore I told him that I just don’t accept this kind of behaviour. > It’s not good enough. He gave me the same "I can see why you feel this > way" shit again, and I responded by saying that he should cut out the > psycho-babble and "psychologizing" everything. That shut him up for a > couple of seconds -he didn’t expect me to see what was going on, but > I’ve been around people like this for so long that I’ve got them > firgured out. They don’t like that. > They like to show you who’s the boss, which makes me wonder if the > waiting each time is deliberate…. or partly deliberate. > Then he said that I was so accusing. This guy sure’s got a nerve! What > was I supposed to do? Just smile and accept that my appointment went to > a waste because he *assumed* that I knew I should go straight to his > office? > I don’t think he quite understands what his job is: to help people to > the best of his ability. And to be able to do that in a job like that, > those who seek help need to feel safe and trust that person, which is > kind of hard with such an attitude. > Damn!!! I’m angry. > But something good came out of it (no thanks to the shrink though): > unlike in the past I was able to express my anger and give a damn about > the consequences. I don’t know yet if it feels good or not as I’m just > really tense and wound-up right now, but at least I’m proud of how I > handled it. I won’t be looking forward to being in his shoes the next > time I talk to him 
> Just had to get this off my chest. Anyone had similar experiences with > people who are supposed to help? > It’s like Black Paladin said in another thread, that a few people who > really care about you as a person can give more help than these > so-called professionals can ever do. > I’ve know that for a long time, but what do you do when there aren’t > anyone around who care, who you can talk to and be with? You take the > next best thing, or the third, fourth etc… you take what’s there. > Unfortunately, what’s there isn’t always that good as I’ve pointed out > here (hoping others have had better experiences, though I have a feeling > I’m not the only person having experienced this kind of shit).
I haven’t had much experience with professional help as such, I chickened out of counselling after the third session when I decided that it wasn’t getting me anywhere nor getting to the root of the problem. I have asked my doctor to be re-admitted for professional help though although I don’t hold out much hope. I do feel for you and your situation though, I can imagine that it must be extremely frustrating for you but I hope you don’t let that bastard grind you down too much. These people are there to help though and they shouldn’t have treated you like that. I think they forget sometimes that their aim is to help people and not just to spout pyscho-babble and earn big bucks. I also agree with the comment you/Black Paladin made about people that care about you as a person being more help than so-called professionals. I can totally relate to this but my problem is that the people who care or were supposed to care either don’t want to listen anymore or judge me. Let us know how it goes when/if you go back. Good luck. At least you stood up for yourself!
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>Boy, this guy sure doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into! If he >can’t/won’t help me I sure as hell am going to use it as a person to >practice getting my anger out over as I haven’t really done that before. >My punching bag in other words. He treats me like shit, so he’s going to >get a shitload back! Poor bastard. >– >L-1011
Maybe his strategy is to piss you off so you learn to stand up for yourself! In that case, he’s a very good therapist ABM
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L-1011 wrote in message
<1fdopdg.1sxhgun1629d4wN%L-1011@_DELETEbigfoot.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->ABM <arie_@enschede_.com> wrote: >> >Boy, this guy sure doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into! If he >> >can’t/won’t help me I sure as hell am going to use it as a person to >> >practice getting my anger out over as I haven’t really done that before. >> >My punching bag in other words. He treats me like shit, so he’s going to >> >get a shitload back! Poor bastard. >> Maybe his strategy is to piss you off so you learn to stand up for yourself! >> In that case, he’s a very good therapist >I hear ya, but seriously doubt it. I dare say I understand these >"professionals"’ mentality, and see how shallow this idiot is. >It’s funny how health officials don’t see that when you’re going to work >with people it doesn’t help how many "A" grades you get if you can’t be >around people, talk to them, make them feel safe and secure etc. >I don’t think I’m the only person who needs to feel relaxed and around >someone who’s interested and is comfortable to talk to before I open up >with all my problems. >The difference between now and before is that I took all that crap, but >not any more. I’m not going to get run over again. >Something is defintely wrong with the system when the people who are >supposed to help become a threat and a new problem! >– >L-1011
Yeah, i wasn’t too serious when i wrote that… I never tried getting professional help, because well, frankly i don’t trust it.. i’m afraid they just want people to adapt to their standards and become ‘productive’ members of society. I’ve been my own psycho-therapist for a couple of years now, and although it’s probably not the fastest road towards happiness, i think in the long run i’ll be better off this way.. Yep, try to find people you can trust, preferably people with comparable problems.. they can give essential feedback. Good luck, take it easy, ABM
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L-1011 wrote: > I’m really angry today. > When he showed up I was hoping and expecting an apology at least, > but…. nothing! He just looked at me like *I* was stupid or something > for not having showed up, but who the hell had told me I should seek out > his office when a sign downstairs in the same building saying that > everybody should go to where the reception is and wait there? > He responded with something only a shrink can do: "I can see how you > feel that way".
I love it when people can see your feelings, makes me think highly of them because it implies the possession of superpowers or maybe he was indeed just using shrink language and not seeing anything beyond the fuzzy bouderies of his own perception….. > Furthermore I told him that I just don’t accept this kind of behaviour. > It’s not good enough. He gave me the same "I can see why you feel this > way" shit again, and I responded by saying that he should cut out the > psycho-babble and "psychologizing" everything. That shut him up for a > couple of seconds -he didn’t expect me to see what was going on, but > I’ve been around people like this for so long that I’ve got them > firgured out. They don’t like that. > They like to show you who’s the boss, which makes me wonder if the > waiting each time is deliberate…. or partly deliberate.
Probably not. Sounds more like they are in the proffesion of helping people without actually caring about them. > Then he said that I was so accusing. This guy sure’s got a nerve! What > was I supposed to do? Just smile and accept that my appointment went to > a waste because he *assumed* that I knew I should go straight to his > office?
Yeah well, welcome to another seriouos glitch in our way of living: the wonderfull dark intrigues of assumptions. Still, I like the way you stood up for yourself. Way to go. Really. > I don’t think he quite understands what his job is: to help people to > the best of his ability. And to be able to do that in a job like that, > those who seek help need to feel safe and trust that person, which is > kind of hard with such an attitude.
Helping people and caring about (helping) people are two different things. > Damn!!! I’m angry.
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