OT quick poll: existence of soulmates

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"sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> pulled the needle out his vein long enough to rant news:56709d4c2526e97f97f8a8de64af1752@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > Hey Eerie, in the end your influence works > and you get me bitter ;-) Congratulations. > Sumi

WOO HOO! — "And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get you. That’s called ‘karma.’ " – Bill O’Reilly, "The O’Reilly Factor for Kids" Like Mr. Bush, these patriarchal [Catholic] bishops want to turn back the clock to the 50’s. They don’t want separation of church and state – except in Iraq. –Maureen Dowd. Paul! Paul! Help me, Paul! Please Paul, help me! Paul! –Track of the Moonbeast.

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Hehe, no my dear, you couldn’t get me bitter after all. There are temporary downers, yep, but no, I’d mostly harm myself in case I’d get bitter ;-) Maybe this is why I’m here on asl: to make sure there are always ways not to get bitter, to understand and learn to avoid the games that our silly little egos are playing, to get more clarity about the emotion of loneliness and how to get by it and all that with the useful side-effect of being helpful every now and then. Hmph – or not. Why do you post here, Eerie? Sumi

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In article <Gb%dd.141808$a85.7440@fed1read04>, Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Evil Pnats" <myblowupprejecte…@blowuppp.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1be0b00eef76a2ad98a1fa@news.alt.net… > > In article <QL1dd.105914$a85.55609@fed1read04>, > > Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… > > > "ske" <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message > > > news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… > > > > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll > of > > > > the moment: > > > > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > > > it’s a bit of a fantasy. > > > But I think it’s possible to find a person with whom you have a high > level > > > of compatibility. > > i agree about being a bit of a fantasy. > > also agree that having a high level of compatibility sure is nice. > Finding one is very hard though :(

i agree. i am thinking i might have found someone i am compatible with and looking forward to finding out. he makes me laugh and smile and makes my heart sing.

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"Evil Pnats" <myblowupprejecte…@blowuppp.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.1be24c1d7f43ffba98a21d@news.alt.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <Gb%dd.141808$a85.7440@fed1read04>, > Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… > > "Evil Pnats" <myblowupprejecte…@blowuppp.com> wrote in message > > news:MPG.1be0b00eef76a2ad98a1fa@news.alt.net… > > > In article <QL1dd.105914$a85.55609@fed1read04>, > > > Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… > > > > "ske" <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message > > > > news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… > > > > > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll > > of > > > > > the moment: > > > > > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > > > > it’s a bit of a fantasy. > > > > But I think it’s possible to find a person with whom you have a high > > level > > > > of compatibility. > > > i agree about being a bit of a fantasy. > > > also agree that having a high level of compatibility sure is nice. > > Finding one is very hard though :( > i agree. i am thinking i might have found someone i am compatible with > and looking forward to finding out. he makes me laugh and smile and > makes my heart sing.

Yea, I met someone too… the bad part is he can’t be around a lot. Makes my insecurities rage and make things very hard.

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Why? Good to know I rouse amusement. Never asked for pity.

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Hey Eerie, in the end your influence works and you get me bitter ;-) Congratulations. Sumi

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"sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:56709d4c2526e97f97f8a8de64af1752@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > Hey Eerie, in the end your influence works > and you get me bitter ;-) Congratulations. > Sumi

Almost makes me think I said something interesting for a change. — "Why I’ve got all kinds of antiseptics at home." "Dozens–no–hundreds of antiseptics! "I call it ‘Antiseptic Manor’."         -Track of the Moonbeast.

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This mate of mine from Skool who I still know, he had a theory about Wombles (them on Wimbledon Common + obscure thing on telly when I were a lad + UK etc), instead of Leprachauns where they have a crock of gold, he reckoned that if you caught hold of a Womble, he’d swiftly give in and say "OK, my crock of porridge can be found at…". Oh, I’m, supposed to give some sort of opinion about soulmates etc. Well, at this point in my life, I am so bitter and twisted and aggressively seek my own company (actually, most evenings I can’t bear even that, so I get pissed up or just go to bed early). I don’t think I’m being very positive, and I think I piss people off at work, because, I know I do. I’m just basically filled with simmering resentment and hate. So, soulmates are probbly off t’menu, innit. I also think that Oscar Wilde was right, he said something about him or people generally seeking the means of their own destruction – or was it, seeking that which he most fears – something like that. Needless to say, I fear humiliation the most, and this is what I have scooped up in industrial quantities since I became an adult, or at least, was of adult age. I recall reading various Chekhov short stories and so on, and there was one in which the main protagonist explained a state of mind wherein one almost revels in the misery of one’s soul… I also think that DF is so often immured in the depths of self-loathing, that whenever a taste of the lash of contempt is aimed at him, he chalks it up in the hell of it all…you can’t stop self-hatred by hate, and you can’t stop it by patronising words either. All that happens is that doors are shut, one wanders ever further from the path of enlightenment or whatever, and you just end up in an ever increasingly nightmare jungle of spiritual apathy, decay, evil. Why was I scared of an unknown beast at my door? I was scared of the uncanny – so now I have a light on during the hours of my second sleep – if the uncanny is made solid, and it probably never will, what may occur? What God of an idea may form in the lumpen brain of this hateful wretch? While the world continues to fall into its dull, sterile routine, cynical evil breeds in my rotted heart. But God bless all of you. OTS "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" <a…@at.org> wrote in message news:Xns9586454B95034fkjdlkvjcxoiuarepoij@68.6.19.6… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> poet <p…@asarian-host.net> wrote in > news:06a6c0cfa692a35f.894aafaedb84f2a410@asarian-host.net: > > X-No-Archive: yes > > In article cl0fvf$qi…@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net, ske at no.m…@spam.net > > wrote on 10/18/04 8:20: > >> What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > Soulmate: No. > Leprachauns with pots of gold: Yes. > > love to have one, but don’t believe one exists for me. > > so, kind of a circular concept… > > — > > For more information about this posting service, contact: > > h…@asarian-host.net — for all info about our server. > > If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: > > https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi > — > "Why I’ve got all kinds of antiseptics at home." > "Dozens–no–hundreds of antiseptics! > "I call it ‘Antiseptic Manor’." > -Track of the Moonbeast.

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"Evil Pnats" <myblowupprejecte…@blowuppp.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.1be0b00eef76a2ad98a1fa@news.alt.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <QL1dd.105914$a85.55609@fed1read04>, > Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… > > "ske" <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message > > news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… > > > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > > > the moment: > > > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > > it’s a bit of a fantasy. > > But I think it’s possible to find a person with whom you have a high level > > of compatibility. > i agree about being a bit of a fantasy. > also agree that having a high level of compatibility sure is nice.

Finding one is very hard though :(

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Putting aside the question whether one has a soul or not (many doubt the existence of a soul)and let go the hairsplitting about the very term………. hmmm, I think I used to have a soulmate for a time. Problem is if I had not known such a person exists I’d be a lot happier now. If you lose a soulmate it leaves you very much alone. Posting in forums like this might be therapeutic for some. It isn’t for me. Living with a feeling of loss demands much self-discipline. Some can’t help hardening and getting bitter, those who are stronger by nature manage to keep an open heart – which is of no use to themselves but at least might be nice for their social environment. Sumi

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"sumire" <sumire_kawab…@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:201d28c7e4cb3aa4336ce6c2bd340c61@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > those who are stronger by > nature manage to keep an open heart – > which is of no use to themselves but at least might be nice for their > social environment.

This strikes me as rather amusing, for some reason. — "Why I’ve got all kinds of antiseptics at home." "Dozens–no–hundreds of antiseptics! "I call it ‘Antiseptic Manor’."         -Track of the Moonbeast.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster <r…@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message <news:pan.2004.10.19.20.34.18.552850@localhost.localdomain>… > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:22:13 -0700, the world was enlightented by OB, unto > whom the words are attributed: > > ske <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message <news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>… > >> I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > >> the moment: > >> What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > > I don’t have a soul, so "soulmate" is a bit difficult. I’d settle (am > > settling, hopefully) for just "mate". Verb and noun, and Argentinian > > beverage to be drunk afterwards. > "am settling, hopefully"… OB?  Is there good news on the horizon? > Monster

Nice lady in Ecuador. Not met yet. Am currently trying to hold down two simultaneous jobs in order to save up enough money to go there. How things with you?

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In article <QL1dd.105914$a85.55609@fed1read04>, Imgo…@dotcomsomething.net says… > "ske" <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message > news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… > > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > > the moment: > > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > it’s a bit of a fantasy. > But I think it’s possible to find a person with whom you have a high level > of compatibility.

i agree about being a bit of a fantasy. also agree that having a high level of compatibility sure is nice.

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Huh.  I realized this paragraph sounded sexist.  No, it’s our relationship.  She is not chattel or property.  We have a cooperative, supportive relationship.  Just bad expression on my part.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I look at my wife and my relationship after 10 years, and I think, > "damned close to a perfect match, but human beings are not perfect".  I > couldn’t ask for a better wife

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"ske" <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message

news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net… > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > the moment: > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

it’s a bit of a fantasy. But I think it’s possible to find a person with whom you have a high level of compatibility.

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                       On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, ske     savagely assaulted several billion electrons with these words: > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the > poll of the moment: > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

It is an exceptionally rare occurrence experienced by a mere handful of folk who are blessed far beyond the rest of us mortals. — KrosRogue AT SoftHome DOT Net

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:24:55 +0000, the world was enlightented by poet, unto whom the words are attributed: > X-No-Archive: yes > In article cl0fvf$qi…@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net, ske at no.m…@spam.net wrote on > 10/18/04 8:20: >> What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > love to have one, but don’t believe one exists for me. > so, kind of a circular concept…

Not just one, "the one", but many people have the potential to be that person, "the one".  I put it down to pheremones.  Or fairymoans. Something just clicks, and it works on lots of levels.  I’ve felt like that towards others, and others have felt that way towards me.  I think the time has yet to come when both parties have the same feeling though, with me. Perhaps the present one – something special there.  So, for one or the other to get that "soulmate feeling" – there are many.  For both to get it – very rare, but still, enough in the world to find one geographically near to you, if you keep looking.  And yet, my current experience is telling me, you can /build/ that soulmate feeling, if you have the right kind of foundation.  Now, that is a novelty (and a scary one), to me.  Which sort of leads on to saying, find a mate, and work on the soul bit at your leisure…  Hmmm… Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:25:27 +0000, the world was enlightented by Wound Up, unto whom the words are attributed: > Huh.  I realized this paragraph sounded sexist.  No, it’s our > relationship.  She is not chattel or property.  We have a cooperative, > supportive relationship.  Just bad expression on my part.. >> I look at my wife and my relationship after 10 years, and I think, >> "damned close to a perfect match, but human beings are not perfect".  I >> couldn’t ask for a better wife

No, I don’t think it sounded sexist, or possessive.  Just realistic, and nice.  Solid, type of thing. Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:22:13 -0700, the world was enlightented by OB, unto whom the words are attributed: > ske <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message <news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>… >> I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of >> the moment: >> What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > I don’t have a soul, so "soulmate" is a bit difficult. I’d settle (am > settling, hopefully) for just "mate". Verb and noun, and Argentinian > beverage to be drunk afterwards.

"am settling, hopefully"… OB?  Is there good news on the horizon? Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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ske wrote: > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll > of the moment: > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

Solely a Sexual Soulmates type of thing? No. But I think it’s possible that we have souls who we are [meant] by [design] to bump into on our life’s path. Do you ever watch Joan of Arcadia? +++Words I put in [ ] like that are words I’m using for lack of a better word. For something I only have a ‘feeling’ about but can’t seem to put into words.+++ So, for instance, had I never run into John Seiler on usenet, I’d prolly still not buy into hypnosis. The relevance of hypnosis is that it was one of the steps I’ve taken towards getting to understand the little I do now. – Michaela

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ske <no.m…@spam.net> wrote in message <news:cl0fvf$qik$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>… > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > the moment: > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

I don’t have a soul, so "soulmate" is a bit difficult. I’d settle (am settling, hopefully) for just "mate". Verb and noun, and Argentinian beverage to be drunk afterwards.

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In the sense that there is one person with whom you are "destined" or "should" or "need to seek" to share your life with, that there is a 1:1 ratio of ideally suited beings for each member of each sex, I don’t; or in the sense that there is some inherent ethereal connection on a 1:1 basis, for that matter. Women comprise just a little less than 51% of the population, making that notion false in that sense. I look at my wife and my relationship after 10 years, and I think, "damned close to a perfect match, but human beings are not perfect".  I couldn’t ask for a better wife, but then again, I won’t ever really know, will I?  This isn’t to say neither of us dated.  But thankfully (for both of us) the number of prior intimiate relationships is few, enough to provide a basis for comparison, but not enough for too much baggage. I rambled.  In a colloquial sense, I think yes you can call someone that because it feels so.  But otherwise, no. So you might be wondering why I’m in ASL.  Stange city and culture; friends evaporated or left; legal troubles; head case; no job.  No mates, compadres, amigos, buds, peeps, whatever you want to call it. Damned lonely and pissed off at myself. ske wrote: > I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of > the moment: > What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

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I am not sure anything is ever completely off-topic here but the poll of the moment: What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? — .ske

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poet <p…@asarian-host.net> wrote in news:06a6c0cfa692a35f.894aafaedb84f2a410@asarian-host.net: > X-No-Archive: yes > In article cl0fvf$qi…@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net, ske at no.m…@spam.net > wrote on 10/18/04 8:20: >> What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept?

Soulmate: No. Leprachauns with pots of gold: Yes. > love to have one, but don’t believe one exists for me. > so, kind of a circular concept… > — > For more information about this posting service, contact: > h…@asarian-host.net — for all info about our server. > If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: > https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

– "Why I’ve got all kinds of antiseptics at home." "Dozens–no–hundreds of antiseptics! "I call it ‘Antiseptic Manor’."         -Track of the Moonbeast.

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poet wrote: > X-No-Archive: yes > In article cl0fvf$qi…@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net, ske at no.m…@spam.net wrote on > 10/18/04 8:20: >>What do you guys think of the whole soulmate concept? > love to have one, but don’t believe one exists for me. > so, kind of a circular concept…

Then you believe that the possibility of a soulmate exists? — .ske

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