Why shy beta types are in many ways genetically superior to alphas!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Pumpkinhead" <pumpkin_head060…@hotmail.com> wrote in message <news:xBeLb.232$Hs4.161543@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>… > "Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… > > steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message > <news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… > > > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > > > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > > > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > > > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > > > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > > > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > > > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > > > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > > > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > > > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > > > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > > > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > > What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their > > favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so > > they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a > > shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of > > the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. > Yes. Women love to do that. If this trend continues, then one day we’ll have > too many "alpha males" and not enough sensitive family orientated men. > Sensitive men with family values are what make the human race strong.

With to many alphas around its like the o.k corral, shoot first ask questions later and then say oops we got the wrong guy. You need a critcal mass of shys to have a nice civil environment. I guess we can give the alphas football to vent some of their war like alpha tendencies.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:23:18 -0800, RobertM…@YahooGroups.Com wrote: >{{From: steve…@webtv.net (steve) > The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a > little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, > eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids …}} >Another day, in such abject loneliness, is not worth living. >I’m considering suicide now. >By the time I ever find a nice shy mate, who will meet me in person, >and fall in love with me, and stay with me, I’ll be over 90 years old, >and probably dead already, and certainly incapable of fathering >children. >I want to be with Angel Darling again, last seen Nov.26. She’s not shy, >but she’s wonderful. She’s the only person I’ve ever met in person who >said I’m "super cute", and she’s the only person who said I’m the only >person she can trust. I was happy, several times in different ways, >when she was with me. I’ll never be happy again, without her, or: >If I can’t be with her, I want to meet in person Heather Thompson, who >last e-mailed me Oct.24. She’s too shy to meet me. I want her to bite >the bullet and meet me anyway. She’s the only person in the local area >who said I was "hot", and she’s the only person in my whole life who >had a crush on me longer than four years. I’m sure I would be happy if >I could hold her in my arms for a few weeks. >If anybody in the San Jose area would like to help me find Angel >Darling, please e-mail me, and I’ll give you a description of her. >(She’s very unusual looking, easy to recognize from a list of unusual >features.) >If anybody knows how to contact Heather Thompson offline, please tell me. >If any other woman in the local area has a crush on me, or likes me, or >loves me, or cares about me, or otherwise wants me to stay alive, not >kill myself, please e-mail me right away. My current pain is unbearable.

Please don’t kill yourself Robert – I would loose a good source of amusement. Solitary Soul -> http://users3.ev1.net/~solitarysoul/ —————————————————– In my experience, there is no excuse for thinking positively. – ASStagon

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -grigoru…@yahoo.com (robertmaasjr) wrote in message <news:33338fd6.0401080444.68a51a59@posting.google.com>… > steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message <news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… > > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > > The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a > > little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, > > eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids even shyer than > > they are. Don’t try to change yourself too much if you have severe > > shy tendencies, it won’t do much good, learn to enjoy your shy > > traites, they got your ancestors this far. Use your Tony Robbins > > books and shy support books to start a nice fire and read somthing you > > really enjoy by the side of a nice fire, then flip on the television > > and watch star trek or play a violent video game. Its all good. > we are shy of people not risk. shy people come in all personality > types. myself, i am an asshole. people will probably dispute this.

Yes it is a generalization, we all know theres the occasional shy risk taker that does dangerous stupid things but for the most part the traits of being shy and being a risk taker don’t go together.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -steve wrote: > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a > little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, > eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids even shyer than > they are. Don’t try to change yourself too much if you have severe > shy tendencies, it won’t do much good, learn to enjoy your shy > traites, they got your ancestors this far. Use your Tony Robbins > books and shy support books to start a nice fire and read somthing you > really enjoy by the side of a nice fire, then flip on the television > and watch star trek or play a violent video game. Its all good.

Nice satire. -M

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Adrian Boliston wrote: > "Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… >>What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their >>favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so >>they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a >>shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of >>the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. >>….. > This could be good news for a family orientated shy guy. > Raising a family of your own is VERY costly, but he gets to have a family type > environment paid for by the father’s child support cheques!

Usually he wouldn’t know if she was cheating on him. Moreover, I wouldn’t want to raise someone else’s kids on my financial and emotional resources. -M

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Joseph Kinsington wrote: > Pumpkinhead wrote: >>"Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message >>news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… >>>steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message >><news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… >>>>For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as >>>>weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when >>>>it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties >>>>attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. >>>>There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people >>>>(much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number >>>>the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the >>>>confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as >>>>often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a >>>>venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to >>>>save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing >>>>on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. >>>What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their >>>favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so >>>they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a >>>shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of >>>the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. >>Yes. Women love to do that. If this trend continues, then one day we’ll have >>too many "alpha males" and not enough sensitive family orientated men. >>Sensitive men with family values are what make the human race strong. Not alpha >>males who simply want to compete against each other and impregnate as many women >>as possible. I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate >>gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers. > In the United States there are no single women over the age of 24 who are not single > moms ….

Wrong. I know quite a few and I am even dating one. -M

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fra…@grex.org (franco@grex) wrote in message <news:btk1us$87hoe$1@ID-152646.news.uni-berlin.de>… > steve <steve…@webtv.net> wrote… > >For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > >weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > >it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > >attracting females… > I’m learning now that this last premise is not necessarily true. Some Don Juans > are claiming to be shy. Guys who are fucking four women at a time! Who knows, > maybe casanavoa himself was suffering from shyness. > Anyway, sorry to digress. Yes, shyness could be ‘temporaily’ useful in > preventing you from taking high risks (safety valve), but on the long run you > lose, it’s an evidence that’s been talked about here before I think.

I will concede that if you are shy and considered a hunk than the women will chase you down and make an exception and you wont have the same difficulties that a normal looking or ugly shy guy does. That guy that was chosen by the bachlerette on television, the one where they had the multi million dollar televised wedding shows that.

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{{From: steve…@webtv.net (steve) The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids …}} Another day, in such abject loneliness, is not worth living. I’m considering suicide now. By the time I ever find a nice shy mate, who will meet me in person, and fall in love with me, and stay with me, I’ll be over 90 years old, and probably dead already, and certainly incapable of fathering children. I want to be with Angel Darling again, last seen Nov.26. She’s not shy, but she’s wonderful. She’s the only person I’ve ever met in person who said I’m "super cute", and she’s the only person who said I’m the only person she can trust. I was happy, several times in different ways, when she was with me. I’ll never be happy again, without her, or: If I can’t be with her, I want to meet in person Heather Thompson, who last e-mailed me Oct.24. She’s too shy to meet me. I want her to bite the bullet and meet me anyway. She’s the only person in the local area who said I was "hot", and she’s the only person in my whole life who had a crush on me longer than four years. I’m sure I would be happy if I could hold her in my arms for a few weeks. If anybody in the San Jose area would like to help me find Angel Darling, please e-mail me, and I’ll give you a description of her. (She’s very unusual looking, easy to recognize from a list of unusual features.) If anybody knows how to contact Heather Thompson offline, please tell me. If any other woman in the local area has a crush on me, or likes me, or loves me, or cares about me, or otherwise wants me to stay alive, not kill myself, please e-mail me right away. My current pain is unbearable.

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MCMLXVI <mar…@earthlink.net> wrote in news:WOjLb.752$Ix.220@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: >>> Pumpkinhead wrote: >>>> … I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his >>>> mate gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers.

My son looks like me, and not much at all like his mother, so it never crossed my mind.

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On 8 Jan 2004 04:44:10 -0800, grigoru…@yahoo.com (robertmaasjr) wrote: >we are shy of people not risk. shy people come in all personality >types. myself, i am an asshole. people will probably dispute this.

Perhaps not, but you’re a much more entertaining asshole than some of the other assholes around here. lm "… and quit being such a weenie." (BTH, 2004)

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No one around here. Rob

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"E Presley Day" <uncoiled.08…@wound.up.mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ligLb.516$Ix.487@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net… > Pumpkinhead wrote: > > … I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate > > gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers. > I’m fully willing to consider the option of raising children with whom I > have no specific genetic connection, either through marrying women > who’ve had children with other men, or through adoption. Don’t be such > an egoistic fuckhead insisting that all the children you raise have 1/2 > your specific genetic makeup.

I’m sorry to inform you. If you are willing to raise another man’s child as your own, you are genetic junk.

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>> Pumpkinhead wrote: >>> … I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers. > "E Presley Day" <uncoiled.08…@wound.up.mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ligLb.516$Ix.487@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net… >> I’m fully willing to consider the option of raising children with whom I have no specific genetic connection, either through marrying women who’ve had children with other men, or through adoption. Don’t be such an egoistic fuckhead insisting that all the children you raise have 1/2 your specific genetic makeup. Pumpkinhead wrote: > I’m sorry to inform you. If you are willing to raise another man’s child as your own, you are genetic junk.

By that same token, if you are willing to go through life without conceiving your own biological children, or if you are involuntarily celibate, you, too, are genetic junk. Perhaps. But those children can be just as much your children as if they were created from your own biology as long as you raise them right, raise them to be able to become members of society. "It takes a man to be a dad." — National Fatherhood Initiative <http://www.fatherhood.org/>

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For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids even shyer than they are. Don’t try to change yourself too much if you have severe shy tendencies, it won’t do much good, learn to enjoy your shy traites, they got your ancestors this far. Use your Tony Robbins books and shy support books to start a nice fire and read somthing you really enjoy by the side of a nice fire, then flip on the television and watch star trek or play a violent video game. Its all good.

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steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message <news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour.

What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. Furthermore, this isn’t a conspiracy or conscious thing either. It was actually shown in a scientific study that the type of man a woman most wants varies with her monthly cycle. When she’s most fertile, she wants the daredevil. When she’s least, she wants the sensitive guy.

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"Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… > What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their > favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so > they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a > shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of > the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. > …..

This could be good news for a family orientated shy guy. Raising a family of your own is VERY costly, but he gets to have a family type environment paid for by the father’s child support cheques!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message <news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > The shy types on the other hand are cautious, intelligent and even a > little chicken (like a wary deer). They live to see another day, > eventually meet a nice shy mate and end up having kids even shyer than > they are. Don’t try to change yourself too much if you have severe > shy tendencies, it won’t do much good, learn to enjoy your shy > traites, they got your ancestors this far. Use your Tony Robbins > books and shy support books to start a nice fire and read somthing you > really enjoy by the side of a nice fire, then flip on the television > and watch star trek or play a violent video game. Its all good.

we are shy of people not risk. shy people come in all personality types. myself, i am an asshole. people will probably dispute this.

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Do you actually believe the shit you’re throwing around? Seriously dude? >If this trend continues, then one day we’ll have > too many "alpha males" and not enough sensitive family orientated men.

What rot! > Sensitive men with family values are what make the human race strong.

You mean like those plastic-haired right-wing xian yahoos? They’re "strong?" What-r-you, on crack? > Not alpha > males who simply want to compete against each other and impregnate as many women > as possible. I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate > gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers.

I urge you to get yer fuckin head checked. Rob

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"E Presley Day" <uncoiled.08…@wound.up.mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ligLb.516$Ix.487@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net… > ….. Don’t be such > an egoistic fuckhead insisting that all the children you raise have 1/2 > your specific genetic makeup.

Perhaps a shybie would rather raise a shy kid like himself rather than a kid with "alpha" genes in him who will start dating at the age of 12!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pumpkinhead wrote: > "Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… > > steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message > <news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… > > > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > > > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > > > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > > > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > > > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > > > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > > > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > > > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > > > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > > > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > > > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > > > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > > What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their > > favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so > > they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a > > shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of > > the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. > Yes. Women love to do that. If this trend continues, then one day we’ll have > too many "alpha males" and not enough sensitive family orientated men. > Sensitive men with family values are what make the human race strong. Not alpha > males who simply want to compete against each other and impregnate as many women > as possible. I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate > gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers.

In the United States there are no single women over the age of 24 who are not single moms ….

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Pumpkinhead wrote: > … I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate > gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers.

I’m fully willing to consider the option of raising children with whom I have no specific genetic connection, either through marrying women who’ve had children with other men, or through adoption. Don’t be such an egoistic fuckhead insisting that all the children you raise have 1/2 your specific genetic makeup.

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steve <steve…@webtv.net> wrote… >For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as >weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when >it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties >attracting females…

I’m learning now that this last premise is not necessarily true. Some Don Juans are claiming to be shy. Guys who are fucking four women at a time! Who knows, maybe casanavoa himself was suffering from shyness. Anyway, sorry to digress. Yes, shyness could be ‘temporaily’ useful in preventing you from taking high risks (safety valve), but on the long run you lose, it’s an evidence that’s been talked about here before I think.

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steve wrote: > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > it comes to survival.

There are survival strategies that help children get through early parts of their lives when they perceive their caretakers are failing them. However, these same strategies are maladaptive to coping with adult life.

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Mark Green wrote: > What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy. > Furthermore, this isn’t a conspiracy or conscious thing either. It was actually shown in a scientific study that the type of man a woman most wants varies with her monthly cycle. When she’s most fertile, she wants the daredevil. When she’s least, she wants the sensitive guy.

The female searches for the best candidates to help create offspring. The female searches for the best candidates to help care for offspring. The sets of candidates need not overlap.

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"Mark Green" <mark.gr…@reading.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:88139ee2.0401080426.48340283@posting.google.com… > steve…@webtv.net (steve) wrote in message

<news:9e4b5329.0401072051.5665a28@posting.google.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > For a large part it is in the genes. You guys/gals view shyness as > > weakness but in reality your shy genes have served you very well when > > it comes to survival. Granted normal shy men will face difficulties > > attracting females but in other ways your genes have served you well. > > There was a study comparing risk taking dare devils to cautious people > > (much more likely to be shy types). The cautious people out number > > the dare devil risk takers 3 to 1. Scientists speculate that the > > confident extroverted idiot dare-devil does not live to reproduce as > > often because he gets himself killed in an accident or he contracts a > > venereal disease. Of course with modern hospitals it is easier to > > save these risk takers life unless they really screw up like crashing > > on their motorcycle doing a hundred miles per hour. > What you miss is that human females are wilier than that. Their > favourite trick is to have children by the daredevil alpha male (so > they get his physical genes), then dump him and remarry to a > shyer-type guy so that he raises the kids and they get the benefit of > the more nurturing genetic tendancy of the shy guy.

Yes. Women love to do that. If this trend continues, then one day we’ll have too many "alpha males" and not enough sensitive family orientated men. Sensitive men with family values are what make the human race strong. Not alpha males who simply want to compete against each other and impregnate as many women as possible. I urge every man to get a DNA test for every child that his mate gives birth to and stay the fuck away from single mothers.

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