x-no-archive: yes
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Hi, I’m new here and am trying to figure out the rules. I want to reply to people but don’t know how to do the x-no-archive thing so please understand that I mean no offense or harm. ———- In article <bbF53.130$nd3….@news.megsinet.net>, "bluemaxx" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<bluem…@megsinet.KILLSPAMnet> wrote: >x-no-archive: yes >Thanks, Artemis. That one. <smile> >Artemis <anon-14…@anon.twwells.com> wrote in message >news:7j4it7$rb4$1@twwells.com… >> x-no-archive: yes >> We have met the enemy, and he is us. (Pogo)? That one?
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Posted and Mailed RingmyBell wrote: > Hi, > I’m new here and am trying to figure out the rules. I want to reply to > people but don’t know how to do the x-no-archive thing so please understand > that I mean no offense or harm. > ———-
Hi. <smile> We don’t have a set of written rules. For the most part, most of us try to be courteous to each other and respectful of each other’s feelings and we try not to cause harm to each other with our words. Note the word "try". <smile> None of us are perfect here and we are an unmoderated group and so we get trolls and sometimes people who don’t care about courtesy, kindness, respect or harming others with their words. As for the x-no-archive thing….if you see that someone has used it in their post, it is considered courteous for you to use it in your response to them. If you do not use it, then it is considered courteous to delete their post in your response to them. It is very easy to do. At the top of this post, you will see the words "Posted and Mailed", right there is where you would type x-no-archive: yes. Then you would skip a line before you started typying the rest of your response. If this isn’t clear enough to help you, understand, please let us know. And be welcome here. <smile> Jae — "The price of dishonesty…….. Is self-destruction." — Rita Mae Brown
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I work on the computor everyday mostly in Photoshop, but for the life of me I can’t seem to sift out the facts on this X no archive subject. Does it work to put the x in the first line of a message or not? And I can only read my header after my message is posted. Is there a way to get to my header before I send the message? I am on a Mac and I use Out look Express 4.01. Thank you ———- In article <claufydd54604644030…@bigfoot.com>, b…@bigfoot.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(BobBillyJoe) wrote: >In alt.support.loneliness Jimi <russ…@advit.com.au> wrote: >> If a person really wants to archive a post I can’t see >> how a silly one line remark at the start of a post is going to stop them. >> If I’m missing something here please tell me. >Yes, I am crossposting – sorry. I think people on both groups probably >want to know more about this. >Usenet news articles are normally stored only temporarily on news >servers all over the world, after a time they ‘expire.’ That means a >post you make will be wiped off of my news server forever about a week >after it arrives there. >That is the way it always was until a few years ago a web site called >DejaNews changed the rules. Until then you could post whatever and >have little fear that someone could go looking up what you wrote a >year ago. It would be gone, unless one individual happened to save it >or something. Unlikely some higly curious person could come along later >and find anything you wrote. >But DejaNews gets news postings and keeps them >_permanently_. Forever. On a CDROM somewhere. So people can look up >what you posted two years ago about your ex-lover or your boss or >whatever and maybe embarassed you. Kids can go back in 20 years >and see what mommy or daddy posted to the alt.drugs group when they >were growing up. >At the time people in the Usenet community raised a big fuss about >this. They did not want their posts being saved! To placate them, >Dejanews (and Altavista and others) adopted a standard whereby anyone >savy enough to put the header line ‘x-no-archive: yes’ in their posts >would not have their postings archived! This kind of placated the >Usenet people but because most people do not know or understand how to >do this, DejaNews still gets lots of posts. If anyone posts a followup >to an article containing the original quoted text and the _followup_ >does not include the ‘x-no-archive’, the original is archived inside >the second article. This is the complaint that started thread. People >do not want their articles archived, even as part of someone else’s >response to them. >But the x-no-archive thing is purely voluntary on the part of DejaNews >and others. A DejaNews competitor could go up tomorrow and ignore it >and archive _everything_ and there is little you or anyone else could >do to stop them. I am fairly sure there are other archivists out there >who already archive everything, completely ignoring x-no-archive, >probably very quietly. I would bet a lot of money the US Government >has something exactly like this, keeping track of everything that gets >posted to Usenet, to be used in criminal cases and such. >Imagine in 20 or 30 years how candidates for political office will >have very personal things they posted to newsgroups quoted _verbatim_ >back to them. Kind of scary if you ask me. >– >BBJ
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If a person really wants to archive a post I can’t see how a silly one line remark at the start of a post is going to stop them. If I’m missing something here please tell me. Russ. — "The sum of the parts never equals the whole" bluemaxx <bluem…@megsinet.KILLSPAMnet> wrote in message
news:Ux853.8$P12.469@news.megsinet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> x-no-archive: yes > I would just like to post this as a very gentle reminder that if > "x-no-archive: yes" shows at the very beginning of someone’s post, > for people to please honor it when responding to the posts by > carrying it over at the top of their posted response back to that > person. > I just had a very good cyber-friend get hurt by a cruel young woman > who used the archived posts from here against her in another > newsgroup. While my friend was welcomed here with very open arms, > and most people who responded to her did respect her request for no > archiving, a few people did not carry over her desire for no > archiving of her posts in DejaNews. As a result, her past posts > have now been used as a weapon against her. > So this is just a gentle reminder, especially to all new people > coming into the newsgroups who might not yet understand what the > subject expression means and what the consequences can bring. Thank > you.
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I don’t exactly know where to put the x- no- archive. I was told it should be in the first line of the header. Where exactly is the first line of the header? Thanx ———- In article <Ux853.8$P12….@news.megsinet.net>, "bluemaxx" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<bluem…@megsinet.KILLSPAMnet> wrote: >x-no-archive: yes >I would just like to post this as a very gentle reminder that if >"x-no-archive: yes" shows at the very beginning of someone’s post, >for people to please honor it when responding to the posts by >carrying it over at the top of their posted response back to that >person. >I just had a very good cyber-friend get hurt by a cruel young woman >who used the archived posts from here against her in another >newsgroup. While my friend was welcomed here with very open arms, >and most people who responded to her did respect her request for no >archiving, a few people did not carry over her desire for no >archiving of her posts in DejaNews. As a result, her past posts >have now been used as a weapon against her. >So this is just a gentle reminder, especially to all new people >coming into the newsgroups who might not yet understand what the >subject expression means and what the consequences can bring. Thank >you.
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Confused wrote: > This post got me thinking. I checked www.dejanews.com to see how many posts > of mine (those in which I used my real name) are archived. In turns out > that all of my 338 posts starting with #1 on July 3rd, 1995 are available > for anyone to read. > Something to think about. > Confused
Many people have cancelled their posts in dejanews. If you wish to do that, I believe someone here can tell you how to go about it. Though, you should remember that cancelling them in deja does not cancel them in other services that archive posts. I have a few thousand in deja if it makes you feel any better. <laugh> They are under different variations of my name, though, so people have to have been here long enough to know what I posted under when first I came here in order to find them all. <grin> I did go back and read some of my first ones in deja and I laughed at myself. I am much different now, I think. I was such a scared, closed in person and wrote very short posts. Y’all have created a monster! <laugh> Hugs, Jae — "You can bend me, you can break me….. But, you’d better stand clear…." John Cougar Mellencamp
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Subject: Re: x-no-archive: yes Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:52:13 -0400 From: Chief <spoo…@banet.net> To: Supertheta <bshep…@vt.edu> References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 It may be a courtesy but some of us, be it being tired or medications, just don’t pay that much attention to the no-archive: yes stuff. I’m luck half the time if I remember to take my seizure meds. I’ll try to pay closer attention so as not to offend anyone but if I forget I’ll have to ask that you understand. Hugs Eddie (Chief) Supertheta wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Jae <Lady…@ccms.net> wrote in message
news:371F95E0.121A7B1A@ccms.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Many people have cancelled their posts in dejanews. If you wish to > do > > that, I believe someone here can tell you how to go about it. Though, you > > should remember that cancelling them in deja does not cancel them in other > > services that archive posts. > The DejaNews Nuke form is at http://www.dejanews.com/forms/nuke.shtml Note > that it does not wo
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Jae wrote in message <371F7FE1.BDB95…@ccms.net>… > A poster uses x-no-archive: yes with a blank line after it in an >effort to prevent his/her post from being archived. Hopefully, when >that is used, when their post disappears from the servers, it is indeed >gone. Though, I am told that the posts are still archived by those >services who do not respect the x-no-archive: yes.
This post got me thinking. I checked www.dejanews.com to see how many posts of mine (those in which I used my real name) are archived. In turns out that all of my 338 posts starting with #1 on July 3rd, 1995 are available for anyone to read. Something to think about. Confused
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Since we have had quite a lot of new members recently, I thought I might explain the "x-no-archive: yes" for those who are not understanding of what it means. A poster uses x-no-archive: yes with a blank line after it in an effort to prevent his/her post from being archived. Hopefully, when that is used, when their post disappears from the servers, it is indeed gone. Though, I am told that the posts are still archived by those services who do not respect the x-no-archive: yes. It is a courtesy when you see a post with that notation, that you also put the same notation in your response to that post. After all, their efforts are wasted if you carry their post in your response. Yours will be archived and theirs as well. You can delete their entire post to avoid using the notation, if you wish and hope they will know what you are responding to. <smile> Jae — "You can bend me, you can break me….. But, you’d better stand clear…." John Cougar Mellencamp
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