How many will commit suicide?
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CTS wrote: > "Solitary Soul" <solitarysoulNOS…@ev1.net> wrote in message > news:kgmus0pnlc3r1v6dtiss3q50bl8o2sh54p@4ax.com… > > On 26 Dec 2004 04:17:57 -0800, "Gray Loser"
<gray_lo…@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > >>CTS wrote: > >>> Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a > >>> cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk. > > You could french-kiss a shotgun – or hang yourself. > > Those methods are MUCH better. > They still carry some risk of failure. Besides, I’m a filthy coward and I > simply wouldn’t have the willpower to do that. However, driving without a > seatbelt is passive and fun.
passive recklessness… I can relate to that. On a side note, I remember chatting to a rather nice American lady when I was doing a road trip across the states a few years ago. She told me she couldnt bear to ever wearing a seat belt, as she was always frightened she might drive off a bridge into a body of water, and be unable to escape from her car as it slowly filled with water. I didnt have the heart to tell her, that the chances of that happening, were rather miniscule compared to the likelihood of her very pretty face being smeared all over the steering wheel, and windscreen in the more likely event of any other crash that didnt involve chance crashes off bridges into lakes or rivers.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:58:11 -0000, "CTS" <diode_pie_g…@ziplip.com> wrote: >"Solitary Soul" <solitarysoulNOS…@ev1.net> wrote in message >news:kgmus0pnlc3r1v6dtiss3q50bl8o2sh54p@4ax.com… >> On 26 Dec 2004 04:17:57 -0800, "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>>CTS wrote: >>>> Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a >>>> cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk. >> You could french-kiss a shotgun – or hang yourself. >> Those methods are MUCH better. >They still carry some risk of failure.
Not nearly the risks associated with death by auto collision. > Besides, I’m a filthy coward and I >simply wouldn’t have the willpower to do that.
??? But you’ll risk being a cripple for the rest of your life? One of my greatest fears is that I’ll have an accident of some sort (auto or otherwise), suffer severe injuries (perhaps including head trauma with brain damage), then be placed in a nursing home to live … no … survive for many years before I mercifully die eventually. If I were placed in a situation like that, I wouldn’t have the capabilities nor the resources to self-terminate - I doubt if any of the staff in a nursing home would let me have a firearm. > However, driving without a seatbelt is passive and fun.
I don’t see how anyone can derive any sort of enjoyment from it - but whatever floats your boat. Solitary Soul -> http://users3.ev1.net/~solitarysoul/ —————————————————– In my experience, there is no excuse for thinking positively. – ASStagon
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"Solitary Soul" <solitarysoulNOS…@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:kgmus0pnlc3r1v6dtiss3q50bl8o2sh54p@4ax.com… > On 26 Dec 2004 04:17:57 -0800, "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> > wrote: >>CTS wrote: >>> Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a >>> cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk. > You could french-kiss a shotgun – or hang yourself. > Those methods are MUCH better.
They still carry some risk of failure. Besides, I’m a filthy coward and I simply wouldn’t have the willpower to do that. However, driving without a seatbelt is passive and fun.
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:53:05 GMT, k…@ing.notin.aus (Your Name Here=Harvey) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In article <1104078329.981574.99…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, >kittner12…@yahoo.com says… >>CTS wrote: >>> "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… >>> > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse >>to >>> > just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming >>up. >>> It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt. >>Where I live, you can now get a ticket for this. I was pulled over for >>this, but just received a warning. I find this ridiculous, since I’m >>not really putting anyone else at risk by not wearing a seatbelt, so >>why should it matter? >>In contrast, people are allowed to yap away on a cell phone while >>giving maybe half of their attention to the road, and this is perfectly >>legal. I used to work in road construction, and one day I just stood >>back and observed how many people passing by were using cell phones. It >>must have been in the neighborhood of 75%. Is there really any >>conversation that important that it can’t wait until you can have a >>face to face conversation, or at least wait until you are no longer >>operating an auto mobile, to have? >Everyone’s life impact upon others. >If you take your own life – it is not yourself that you are hurting.
So who else am I hurting? >Tis folly to commit suicide anyway – you give in to the stereotype about >death and dying — which is not it is cracked up to be.
How do you know this? >It’s like voiding a contract you have undertaken (spiritually) to uphold.
A contract with whom? >Live a life here.
Live a life where? Solitary Soul -> http://users3.ev1.net/~solitarysoul/ —————————————————– Death was in that poisonous wave, And in its gulf a fitting grave For him who thence could solace bring To his lone imagining — Whose solitary soul could make An Eden of that dim lake. "The Lake" – by Edgar Allan Poe
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On 26 Dec 2004 04:17:57 -0800, "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote: >CTS wrote: >> Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a >> cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk.
You could french-kiss a shotgun – or hang yourself. Those methods are MUCH better. >Being a veggie doesn’t bother me (it wouldn’t be me anymore).
Being a veggie is one thing, but being reduced to the life of a cripple would be a fate worse than death. I think that would be a HORRIBLE life to live IMO. >It would >probably bother my family quite a bit, though. What bothers me is the >possibility of surviving thanks to the miracle of modern medicine, only >to have to live out the rest of my days in agonizing pain.
This is a consideration. Solitary Soul -> http://users3.ev1.net/~solitarysoul/ —————————————————– Death was in that poisonous wave, And in its gulf a fitting grave For him who thence could solace bring To his lone imagining — Whose solitary soul could make An Eden of that dim lake. "The Lake" – by Edgar Allan Poe
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CTS wrote: > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse to > > just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming up. > It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt.
Where I live, you can now get a ticket for this. I was pulled over for this, but just received a warning. I find this ridiculous, since I’m not really putting anyone else at risk by not wearing a seatbelt, so why should it matter? In contrast, people are allowed to yap away on a cell phone while giving maybe half of their attention to the road, and this is perfectly legal. I used to work in road construction, and one day I just stood back and observed how many people passing by were using cell phones. It must have been in the neighborhood of 75%. Is there really any conversation that important that it can’t wait until you can have a face to face conversation, or at least wait until you are no longer operating an auto mobile, to have?
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In article <1104078329.981574.99…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, kittner12…@yahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->CTS wrote: >> "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… >> > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse >to >> > just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming >up. >> It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt. >Where I live, you can now get a ticket for this. I was pulled over for >this, but just received a warning. I find this ridiculous, since I’m >not really putting anyone else at risk by not wearing a seatbelt, so >why should it matter? >In contrast, people are allowed to yap away on a cell phone while >giving maybe half of their attention to the road, and this is perfectly >legal. I used to work in road construction, and one day I just stood >back and observed how many people passing by were using cell phones. It >must have been in the neighborhood of 75%. Is there really any >conversation that important that it can’t wait until you can have a >face to face conversation, or at least wait until you are no longer >operating an auto mobile, to have?
Everyone’s life impact upon others. If you take your own life – it is not yourself that you are hurting. Tis folly to commit suicide anyway – you give in to the stereotype about death and dying — which is not it is cracked up to be. It’s like voiding a contract you have undertaken (spiritually) to uphold. Live a life here. Harvey
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"Your Name Here=Harvey" <k…@ing.notin.aus> wrote in message news:5pGzd.2760$mo2.113955@news.xtra.co.nz… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <1104078329.981574.99…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > kittner12…@yahoo.com says… > > CTS wrote: > > > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > > > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse > > > > to just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was > > > > coming up. > > > It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt. > > Where I live, you can now get a ticket for this. I was pulled over for > > this, but just received a warning. I find this ridiculous, since I’m > > not really putting anyone else at risk by not wearing a seatbelt, so > > why should it matter? > > In contrast, people are allowed to yap away on a cell phone while > > giving maybe half of their attention to the road, and this is perfectly > > legal. I used to work in road construction, and one day I just stood > > back and observed how many people passing by were using cell phones. It > > must have been in the neighborhood of 75%. Is there really any > > conversation that important that it can’t wait until you can have a > > face to face conversation, or at least wait until you are no longer > > operating an auto mobile, to have? > Everyone’s life impact upon others. > If you take your own life – it is not yourself that you are hurting.
Oh please. Take your soppy pompous feel-good BS somewhere else – it’s not welcome in this subthread. It’s my own business if I don’t want to wear a seatbelt because I wanna splatter myself in a crash, and nobody else has any right to stop me with either silly aphorisms or the law. > Tis folly to commit suicide anyway – you give in to the stereotype about > death and dying — which is not it is cracked up to be. > It’s like voiding a contract you have undertaken (spiritually) to uphold.
Says who? I signed nothing.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > In article <1104078329.981574.99…@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > kittner12…@yahoo.com says… > >CTS wrote: > >Where I live, you can now get a ticket for this. I was pulled over for > >this, but just received a warning. I find this ridiculous, since I’m > >not really putting anyone else at risk by not wearing a seatbelt, so > >why should it matter? > >In contrast, people are allowed to yap away on a cell phone while > >giving maybe half of their attention to the road, and this is perfectly > >legal. I used to work in road construction, and one day I just stood > >back and observed how many people passing by were using cell phones. It > >must have been in the neighborhood of 75%. Is there really any > >conversation that important that it can’t wait until you can have a > >face to face conversation, or at least wait until you are no longer > >operating an auto mobile, to have? > Everyone’s life impact upon others. > If you take your own life – it is not yourself that you are hurting.
By that logic, when someone murders you, he’s not really hurting you. > Tis folly to commit suicide anyway – you give in to the stereotype about > death and dying — which is not it is cracked up to be.
The point was about whether or not government has the right to force you to make "Good Choices" (from the standpoint of someone who wants to live).
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CTS wrote: > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1104028306.310620.74230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > CTS wrote: > > > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > > > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse > > > > to just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was > > > > coming up. > > > It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt. > > A seat belt would not have saved me, I don’t think. The car would have > > just disintegrated. > It’s my fault I wasn’t clear here. I mean to say that I don’t wear a > seatbelt in general because dying in a car crash doesn’t sound too > unappealing to me.
I understood. I wouldn’t mind dying in a car crash, either. That’s what I meant — that I could safely have driven into the tunnel wall, *with* my seatbelt on, and still have had a very good chance of dying. > Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a > cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk.
Being a veggie doesn’t bother me (it wouldn’t be me anymore). It would probably bother my family quite a bit, though. What bothers me is the possibility of surviving thanks to the miracle of modern medicine, only to have to live out the rest of my days in agonizing pain. > Actually, this is something that irritates me. It’s illegal not to wear a > belt, even though you pretty much only endanger yourself. Yet you can drink > up to the limit, distract you concentration from the road with a handsfree > mobile, obstruct your vision with all kinds of stupid window stickers, not > have both hands on the wheel because you’re smoking/drinking, and drive > beyond your ability on a NSL road. But you’ll get a ticket if you’re not > wearing a seatbelt…
Yup, that’s gov’t as Big Nanny.
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"Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104028306.310620.74230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > CTS wrote: > > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse > > > to just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was > > > coming up. > > It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt. > A seat belt would not have saved me, I don’t think. The car would have > just disintegrated.
It’s my fault I wasn’t clear here. I mean to say that I don’t wear a seatbelt in general because dying in a car crash doesn’t sound too unappealing to me. Knowing my luck I’d probably end up a veggie or a cripple, but hey, what doesn’t carry that risk. Actually, this is something that irritates me. It’s illegal not to wear a belt, even though you pretty much only endanger yourself. Yet you can drink up to the limit, distract you concentration from the road with a handsfree mobile, obstruct your vision with all kinds of stupid window stickers, not have both hands on the wheel because you’re smoking/drinking, and drive beyond your ability on a NSL road. But you’ll get a ticket if you’re not wearing a seatbelt…
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CTS wrote: > "Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse to > > just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming up. > It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt.
A seat belt would not have saved me, I don’t think. The car would have just disintegrated.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jim wrote: > "Beowulf Trollshammer" wrote >> So anyway, it was like Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:32:22 +0000, you know? >> Oh, and, yeah, franco was all like, "Dude, >>> This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and >>> lonely, >> For most that is only a temporary situation. >>> that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in >>> them, >> Yet. > You and your adverbs of optimism…
I thought BT’s post hit the spot in every way. – Michaela
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This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and lonely, that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in them, that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have been much better if they have never been born in the first place. They will likely give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and honorable way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless, they don’t want to delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world and its creator make me sick!
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It’s sure they don’t public the real number of how many give up in this way. I don’ t know many folks, but I know two that after committed suicide, I was told. One was a man I have worked with for a short period of time, and the other was a 14 yo girl who lived in a flat downstair with its family. And many young death are related to car accidents or other dangerous behaviours, tipical of who don’t care much of its life. "franco" <fra…@grex.org> wrote in message
news:332ukmF3rbh5aU1@individual.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and lonely, > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in them, > that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have been > much better if they have never been born in the first place. They will likely > give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and honorable > way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless, they don’t want to > delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world and its creator make me > sick!
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franco writes: > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and lonely, > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in them, > that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have been > much better if they have never been born in the first place. They will likely > give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and honorable > way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless, they don’t want to > delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world and its creator make me > sick!
It’s natural selection. — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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Good post!
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Soon or later your time will come too. 
) "Mxsmanic" <mxsma…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:djoos0tn7hbhgaqutvhr62k7thc6crgem8@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> franco writes: > > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and lonely, > > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in them, > > that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have been > > much better if they have never been born in the first place. They will likely > > give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and honorable > > way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless, they don’t want to > > delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world and its creator make me > > sick! > It’s natural selection. > — > Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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So anyway, it was like Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:32:22 +0000, you know? Oh, and, yeah, franco was all like, "Dude, > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and > lonely,
For most that is only a temporary situation. > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in > them,
Yet. > that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have > been much better if they have never been born in the first place.
I’m quite sure only a very small minority of A.S.S.ers fall in this category (Jim Suckers and friends) > give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and > honorable way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless
So, are you telling us that you know for sure that every person in the world that is experiencing suicidal feelings in this very moment because of loneliness have absolutely zero chance of ever finding a mate? What have you got there, a crystal ball or something? You’re making an awful lot of assumptions here. > they don’t want to delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world > and its creator make me sick!
Yeah, dating sucks, doesn’t it? it sucks to be rejected, and it sucks to be alone, but the simple fact is you can’t overcome the latter without experiencing the former. Unless you have a terminal disease or look worse than the elephant man you should never give up. — You can either change the way you do things, which is called growth, or you can keep everything the same and wail about how life is unfair, which is called ressentiment. -Eric Pepke
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>Good post!
Hard to say how many…I dont know all of bhp’s sock puppets. some are being born as Iam posting this
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"Drakeman" <no re…@here.com> writes: > Soon or later your time will come too. )
No doubt, but I don’t expect it to be suicide. — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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"Beowulf Trollshammer" <beowul…@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.12.24.21.40.37.960719@lycos.com… > So anyway, it was like Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:32:22 +0000, you know? Oh, and, > yeah, franco was all like, "Dude, > > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and > > lonely, > For most that is only a temporary situation. > > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in > > them, > Yet.
You and your adverbs of optimism…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -franco wrote: > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and lonely, > that no girl in this world is romantically or socially interested in them, > that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale and that it would have been > much better if they have never been born in the first place. They will likely > give up and blow their brains out. It’s probably the most logical and honorable > way out because no matter how hard they try, it’s hopeless, they don’t want to > delude themselves anymore. What a shame! This world and its creator make me > sick!
Yes, the holidays invariably inspire thoughts of suicide in me. The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse to just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming up. That would have been a Princess Di-style exeunt!
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"Gray Loser" <gray_lo…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103971885.200023.118960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… > The other day, I was driving, and got an extremely strong impulse to > just speed up to 90 and ram into a concrete tunnel that was coming up.
It’s for this reason I don’t wear a seat belt.
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franco wrote: > This holiday season, many guys will realize that they are alone and > lonely, that no girl in this world is romantically or socially > interested in them, that they are the scum on the evolutionary scale > and that it would have been much better if they have never been born > in the first place.
It’s entirely possible that the delusion is that the above is true. – Michaela
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